New way to watch HD on TV

It seams unnoticed in US that there is an other way to watch HD content.
I have the KISS DP600 witch you can see he
http://www.kiss-technology.com/

The player is a DIVX and as an important thing .wmv9 player.
The drive in it is an ordinary dvd player drive.
But the player is capable of outputting HD content up to 1920 X 1080 as
far as the capabilities of the TV goes.

At the moment i have a back projektion TV Sony KP-44PX.

So, if you download or buy the Microsoft HD wmv-format DVD's which at the
moment has a showcase on the internet for test and download, then you can
burn these files (or DivX/XVID files if you prefer) on an ordinary DVD-R
and put it in the player an watch the full definition on a HD TV or, on a
SCART or component inlet on an ordinary(like mine) CRT TV, in an to the TV
fitting downscaled resolution. Even on a CRT it looks amazing, and at
first i was convinced that it made my TV able to show the full
definiotion.(Sceptics tell me that it is not possible)-but i can see the
difference between 1920 x 1080 and lower formats even on the CRT TV via
SCART cable. Avoid using composit or super video cables as they do not
deliver the best quality.
SCART or component. SCART with the setting "RGB". Of course HDMI on a
HDTV. There are all cables in the KISS KP600 box.

So this enables us to an amazing amount of posibilities.
A HD DVD could be converted to HD DivX, and burned on a DVD-R. After that
it can be watched in FULL HD via the Kiss Player on a HDTV. Many free or
minimal pay programmes are able to convert in full 1920 X 1080 with manual
selection of the bitrate.

If you have a HD video recorder you can take the full HD, edit, and burn
it on a DVD-R and play it in full HD format, in either DivX-XVID-MPEG4 or
WMV9.
The player does not by now support H264 compression, which at the moment
is the most compressed video file format.
Furthermore the palayer is equiped with WIFI.
You can stream from Windows or MAC-personal computer any content to the
player. It even goes on the internet and are able to opdate itself.(I have
an Intel MAC)
It also has USB2.
The streaming and USB2 has some limitations though. Afyter my own
investigations it will stream up to 1343 KiloBits per second. That is
sufficient for ordinary DivX movies which use a default bitrate about 900
Kilobits second, but insufficient to HD homemade or Microsoft HD wmv
content which stream about 10.000 kilobits/sec.
For that content you have to burn a DVD-R or DVD-RW.

The player has frequent updates, and you have to suffer a bit. Mabee you
insert a record and the player will not read the files or displays dark
screen.;-) Then you have to use the main switch butten on the player and
give it a new start. Then everything will come on fine.;-)

The ability of the player is magnificent in both ordinary DVD play and HD
play. You just have not seen a high quality picture like this player is
able to deliver.

It could be a tool to free the consumers of the format tyranny!;-)))

Just thought you should now, as i think that you are the most interested.
The danes are just not ready for this kind of information yet!;-)))

Greets
jens
Denmark
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I have a WMV-HD comercial disk (To the Limit) that plays thru my P4 based
system at 1080p (I too downloaded the 'clips' from Micrsoft's 'HD media
showcase' website). The disk is full double layer (8.5 G), contains both
720p and 1080p WMVs, but the feature is only 38 minutes long. So, unless
you're willing to apply a lot of compression to the program, it wouldn't be
possible to put a 'feature length' (120 minute) movie on a regular 4.7 G
DVD-R.

TTUL... John

"Lyrik" wrote in message
news

It seams unnoticed in US that there is an other way to watch HD content.
I have the KISS DP600 witch you can see he
http://www.kiss-technology.com/

The player is a DIVX and as an important thing .wmv9 player.
The drive in it is an ordinary dvd player drive.
But the player is capable of outputting HD content up to 1920 X 1080 as
far as the capabilities of the TV goes.

At the moment i have a back projektion TV Sony KP-44PX.

So, if you download or buy the Microsoft HD wmv-format DVD's which at the
moment has a showcase on the internet for test and download, then you can
burn these files (or DivX/XVID files if you prefer) on an ordinary DVD-R
and put it in the player an watch the full definition on a HD TV or, on a
SCART or component inlet on an ordinary(like mine) CRT TV, in an to the TV
fitting downscaled resolution. Even on a CRT it looks amazing, and at
first i was convinced that it made my TV able to show the full
definiotion.(Sceptics tell me that it is not possible)-but i can see the
difference between 1920 x 1080 and lower formats even on the CRT TV via
SCART cable. Avoid using composit or super video cables as they do not
deliver the best quality.
SCART or component. SCART with the setting "RGB". Of course HDMI on a
HDTV. There are all cables in the KISS KP600 box.

So this enables us to an amazing amount of posibilities.
A HD DVD could be converted to HD DivX, and burned on a DVD-R. After that
it can be watched in FULL HD via the Kiss Player on a HDTV. Many free or
minimal pay programmes are able to convert in full 1920 X 1080 with manual
selection of the bitrate.

If you have a HD video recorder you can take the full HD, edit, and burn
it on a DVD-R and play it in full HD format, in either DivX-XVID-MPEG4 or
WMV9.
The player does not by now support H264 compression, which at the moment
is the most compressed video file format.
Furthermore the palayer is equiped with WIFI.
You can stream from Windows or MAC-personal computer any content to the
player. It even goes on the internet and are able to opdate itself.(I have
an Intel MAC)
It also has USB2.
The streaming and USB2 has some limitations though. Afyter my own
investigations it will stream up to 1343 KiloBits per second. That is
sufficient for ordinary DivX movies which use a default bitrate about 900
Kilobits second, but insufficient to HD homemade or Microsoft HD wmv
content which stream about 10.000 kilobits/sec.
For that content you have to burn a DVD-R or DVD-RW.

The player has frequent updates, and you have to suffer a bit. Mabee you
insert a record and the player will not read the files or displays dark
screen.;-) Then you have to use the main switch butten on the player and
give it a new start. Then everything will come on fine.;-)

The ability of the player is magnificent in both ordinary DVD play and HD
play. You just have not seen a high quality picture like this player is
able to deliver.

It could be a tool to free the consumers of the format tyranny!;-)))

Just thought you should now, as i think that you are the most interested.
The danes are just not ready for this kind of information yet!;-)))

Greets
jens
Denmark
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Another thing, I checked out the 'Kiss' link and reviewed the specs. Nowhere
does it mention HDCP compatability (Hi-bandwidth Digital Copyright
Protection). I don't know if this is an issue in Europe, but it sure is in
the US.

TTUL... John

"Lyrik" wrote in message
news

It seams unnoticed in US that there is an other way to watch HD content.
I have the KISS DP600 witch you can see he
http://www.kiss-technology.com/

The player is a DIVX and as an important thing .wmv9 player.
The drive in it is an ordinary dvd player drive.
But the player is capable of outputting HD content up to 1920 X 1080 as
far as the capabilities of the TV goes.

At the moment i have a back projektion TV Sony KP-44PX.

So, if you download or buy the Microsoft HD wmv-format DVD's which at the
moment has a showcase on the internet for test and download, then you can
burn these files (or DivX/XVID files if you prefer) on an ordinary DVD-R
and put it in the player an watch the full definition on a HD TV or, on a
SCART or component inlet on an ordinary(like mine) CRT TV, in an to the TV
fitting downscaled resolution. Even on a CRT it looks amazing, and at
first i was convinced that it made my TV able to show the full
definiotion.(Sceptics tell me that it is not possible)-but i can see the
difference between 1920 x 1080 and lower formats even on the CRT TV via
SCART cable. Avoid using composit or super video cables as they do not
deliver the best quality.
SCART or component. SCART with the setting "RGB". Of course HDMI on a
HDTV. There are all cables in the KISS KP600 box.

So this enables us to an amazing amount of posibilities.
A HD DVD could be converted to HD DivX, and burned on a DVD-R. After that
it can be watched in FULL HD via the Kiss Player on a HDTV. Many free or
minimal pay programmes are able to convert in full 1920 X 1080 with manual
selection of the bitrate.

If you have a HD video recorder you can take the full HD, edit, and burn
it on a DVD-R and play it in full HD format, in either DivX-XVID-MPEG4 or
WMV9.
The player does not by now support H264 compression, which at the moment
is the most compressed video file format.
Furthermore the palayer is equiped with WIFI.
You can stream from Windows or MAC-personal computer any content to the
player. It even goes on the internet and are able to opdate itself.(I have
an Intel MAC)
It also has USB2.
The streaming and USB2 has some limitations though. Afyter my own
investigations it will stream up to 1343 KiloBits per second. That is
sufficient for ordinary DivX movies which use a default bitrate about 900
Kilobits second, but insufficient to HD homemade or Microsoft HD wmv
content which stream about 10.000 kilobits/sec.
For that content you have to burn a DVD-R or DVD-RW.

The player has frequent updates, and you have to suffer a bit. Mabee you
insert a record and the player will not read the files or displays dark
screen.;-) Then you have to use the main switch butten on the player and
give it a new start. Then everything will come on fine.;-)

The ability of the player is magnificent in both ordinary DVD play and HD
play. You just have not seen a high quality picture like this player is
able to deliver.

It could be a tool to free the consumers of the format tyranny!;-)))

Just thought you should now, as i think that you are the most interested.
The danes are just not ready for this kind of information yet!;-)))

Greets
jens
Denmark
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On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 06:54:23 -0800, SoCalCommie wrote:

Another thing, I checked out the 'Kiss' link and reviewed the specs. Nowhere
does it mention HDCP compatability (Hi-bandwidth Digital Copyright
Protection). I don't know if this is an issue in Europe, but it sure is in
the US.

And it only supports PAL/Secam. That's not used in the US.:-)

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No, according to the specs http://www.kiss-technology.com/?p=600en&v=users ,
it supports PAL / NTSC.

TTUL... John

"Wes Newell" wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 06:54:23 -0800, SoCalCommie wrote:

Another thing, I checked out the 'Kiss' link and reviewed the specs.
Nowhere
does it mention HDCP compatability (Hi-bandwidth Digital Copyright
Protection). I don't know if this is an issue in Europe, but it sure is
in
the US.

And it only supports PAL/Secam. That's not used in the US.:-)

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On Feb 8, 9:46 am, "SoCalCommie" wrote:
I have a WMV-HD comercial disk (To the Limit) that plays thru my P4 based
system at 1080p (I too downloaded the 'clips' from Micrsoft's 'HD media
showcase' website). The disk is full double layer (8.5 G), contains both
720p and 1080p WMVs, but the feature is only 38 minutes long. So, unless
you're willing to apply a lot of compression to the program, it wouldn't be
possible to put a 'feature length' (120 minute) movie on a regular 4.7 G
DVD-R.

TTUL... John

"Lyrik" wrote in message

news


It seams unnoticed in US that there is an other way to watch HD content.
I have the KISS DP600 witch you can see he
http://www.kiss-technology.com/

The player is a DIVX and as an important thing .wmv9 player.
The drive in it is an ordinary dvd player drive.
But the player is capable of outputting HD content up to 1920 X 1080 as
far as the capabilities of the TV goes.

At the moment i have a back projektion TV Sony KP-44PX.

So, if you download or buy the Microsoft HD wmv-format DVD's which at the
moment has a showcase on the internet for test and download, then you can
burn these files (or DivX/XVID files if you prefer) on an ordinary DVD-R
and put it in the player an watch the full definition on a HD TV or, on a
SCART or component inlet on an ordinary(like mine) CRT TV, in an to the TV
fitting downscaled resolution. Even on a CRT it looks amazing, and at
first i was convinced that it made my TV able to show the full
definiotion.(Sceptics tell me that it is not possible)-but i can see the
difference between 1920 x 1080 and lower formats even on the CRT TV via
SCART cable. Avoid using composit or super video cables as they do not
deliver the best quality.
SCART or component. SCART with the setting "RGB". Of course HDMI on a
HDTV. There are all cables in the KISS KP600 box.

So this enables us to an amazing amount of posibilities.
A HD DVD could be converted to HD DivX, and burned on a DVD-R. After that
it can be watched in FULL HD via the Kiss Player on a HDTV. Many free or
minimal pay programmes are able to convert in full 1920 X 1080 with manual
selection of the bitrate.

If you have a HD video recorder you can take the full HD, edit, and burn
it on a DVD-R and play it in full HD format, in either DivX-XVID-MPEG4 or
WMV9.
The player does not by now support H264 compression, which at the moment
is the most compressed video file format.
Furthermore the palayer is equiped with WIFI.
You can stream from Windows or MAC-personal computer any content to the
player. It even goes on the internet and are able to opdate itself.(I have
an Intel MAC)
It also has USB2.
The streaming and USB2 has some limitations though. Afyter my own
investigations it will stream up to 1343 KiloBits per second. That is
sufficient for ordinary DivX movies which use a default bitrate about 900
Kilobits second, but insufficient to HD homemade or Microsoft HD wmv
content which stream about 10.000 kilobits/sec.
For that content you have to burn a DVD-R or DVD-RW.

The player has frequent updates, and you have to suffer a bit. Mabee you
insert a record and the player will not read the files or displays dark
screen.;-) Then you have to use the main switch butten on the player and
give it a new start. Then everything will come on fine.;-)

The ability of the player is magnificent in both ordinary DVD play and HD
play. You just have not seen a high quality picture like this player is
able to deliver.

It could be a tool to free the consumers of the format tyranny!;-)))

Just thought you should now, as i think that you are the most interested.
The danes are just not ready for this kind of information yet!;-)))

Greets
jens
Denmark
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Why would you need to use a 4.7G DVD-R, why not a DL disc? Presumably
the unit can read dual layer discs since all commercial movies are on
dual layer discs?

Just curious.

On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 08:19:42 -0800, SoCalCommie wrote:

No, according to the specs http://www.kiss-technology.com/?p=600en&v=users ,
it supports PAL / NTSC.

TTUL... John

Different model. Still, you can't get HD with NTSC.

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Different model? DP-600 is what... different from the DP600? And the
discussion wasn't about Hi-Def TV from normal broadcast sources (mostly crap
content anyway - I HATE pro-sports and don't particuarily care for episodic
shows - I watch movies).

TTUL... John

"Wes Newell" wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 08:19:42 -0800, SoCalCommie wrote:

No, according to the specs
http://www.kiss-technology.com/?p=600en&v=users ,
it supports PAL / NTSC.

TTUL... John

Different model. Still, you can't get HD with NTSC.

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HD Tivo S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm

Den 08.02.2007 kl. 15:46 skrev SoCalCommie :

I have a WMV-HD comercial disk (To the Limit) that plays thru my P4 based
system at 1080p (I too downloaded the 'clips' from Micrsoft's 'HD media
showcase' website). The disk is full double layer (8.5 G), contains both
720p and 1080p WMVs, but the feature is only 38 minutes long. So, unless
you're willing to apply a lot of compression to the program, it wouldn't
be
possible to put a 'feature length' (120 minute) movie on a regular 4.7 G
DVD-R.

TTUL... John
++++++++
Glad you brought that up.
Microsoft wmv HD fortmat uses a bitrate under 10.000 kilobits/sek. So
obviously the 38 minutes is not due to limits in bits, but limits in the
film length itself.
With 10.000 kilobits/sek for mpeg4 or wmv you would have 1 hour HD-film on
a singlelayer DVD-R. So we see that nearly every movie could fit a doubble
layer disc.
And there are several possibilities to tweek the codecs, which we haven't
considered.

Greets
Jens


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Den 08.02.2007 kl. 22:08 skrev Bates :

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Why would you need to use a 4.7G DVD-R, why not a DL disc? Presumably
the unit can read dual layer discs since all commercial movies are on
dual layer discs?

Just curious.
++++++++++
You are so right. The player is able to read double layer discs.



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