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Old February 2nd 07, 08:19 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Joaquin Tall
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Default F-Type Connector Installation Help, Please!

We just bought our home and the previous owner left, what seems to be, a
very nice looking antenna on the roof. Since we don't get our local San
Diego HD channels from D/N, I'd like to try the roof antenna for local
HD programming. However, when he left, the schmuck cut the coax at the
F-connector[!] and I'm left with a 4" stub of coax sticking out of the
wall!

I have a small jumper to connect to the 811 receiver, but I have never
installed a F-connector.

Does anyone have an illustrated website they can direct me to, OR offer
some really simple, easy-to-understand written instructions I have no
"installers" tools to do this with, but I do have wire strippers.

Many thanks for taking the time to respond!

Alain
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Old February 2nd 07, 09:10 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Bob Nielsen
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Joaquin Tall wrote:
We just bought our home and the previous owner left, what seems to be, a
very nice looking antenna on the roof. Since we don't get our local San
Diego HD channels from D/N, I'd like to try the roof antenna for local
HD programming. However, when he left, the schmuck cut the coax at the
F-connector[!] and I'm left with a 4" stub of coax sticking out of the
wall!

I have a small jumper to connect to the 811 receiver, but I have never
installed a F-connector.

Does anyone have an illustrated website they can direct me to, OR offer
some really simple, easy-to-understand written instructions I have no
"installers" tools to do this with, but I do have wire strippers.

Many thanks for taking the time to respond!

Alain


There are several types of F connectors. The best are compression type
(slightly more expensive than crimp). Some of the tools are a bit
expensive but I found a Datashark brand tool for $15 at Home Depot. I
bought that brand of connectors also, but it looks like the tool would
work with other brands. I used a knife blade to strip the cable to the
dimensions on the connector package.
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Old February 2nd 07, 09:16 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Charlie Hoffpauir
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Default F-Type Connector Installation Help, Please!

On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 11:19:36 -0800, Joaquin Tall
wrote:

We just bought our home and the previous owner left, what seems to be, a
very nice looking antenna on the roof. Since we don't get our local San
Diego HD channels from D/N, I'd like to try the roof antenna for local
HD programming. However, when he left, the schmuck cut the coax at the
F-connector[!] and I'm left with a 4" stub of coax sticking out of the
wall!

I have a small jumper to connect to the 811 receiver, but I have never
installed a F-connector.

Does anyone have an illustrated website they can direct me to, OR offer
some really simple, easy-to-understand written instructions I have no
"installers" tools to do this with, but I do have wire strippers.

Many thanks for taking the time to respond!

Alain


Alain,

Go to Home Depot, or some other home improvement store like Lowes, and
then to the TV antenna, coax, etc area. They will have "twist on"
F-connectors for sale.... probably the best to get for a one-time use.
The connectors chould also have a small diagram showing how to install
them. They also sell a small inexpensive (about $5.00 I think)
stripper that cuts just the right amount of insulation off the
cable.... but you can get by without that if you have a sketch showing
how to install the connector.

Another store where you can get the connector, and easy instructions
on installing is Radio Shack

I'd also recommend bringing a short piece of the lead-in cable with
you, because there are two different sizes (dia) of cable, RG6 and a
smaller size that I don't recall the designation for. There are F
connectors for each.
Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/
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Old February 2nd 07, 09:18 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Mikepier
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Default F-Type Connector Installation Help, Please!

On Feb 2, 2:19 pm, Joaquin Tall
wrote:
We just bought our home and the previous owner left, what seems to be, a
very nice looking antenna on the roof. Since we don't get our local San
Diego HD channels from D/N, I'd like to try the roof antenna for local
HD programming. However, when he left, the schmuck cut the coax at the
F-connector[!] and I'm left with a 4" stub of coax sticking out of the
wall!

I have a small jumper to connect to the 811 receiver, but I have never
installed a F-connector.

Does anyone have an illustrated website they can direct me to, OR offer
some really simple, easy-to-understand written instructions I have no
"installers" tools to do this with, but I do have wire strippers.

Many thanks for taking the time to respond!

Alain


You don't need special tools, a utlity knife will do. They also sell
twist-on coax connectors so you don't need a crimper.
You will probably also need an female-female coupler to join the cable
coming out of the wall and your jumper cable.
Heres a small video illustration on how the cable should be stripped.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb8rGhqMy1Q



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Old February 2nd 07, 09:51 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Norm
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Default F-Type Connector Installation Help, Please!

Just head to a Home depot or Lowes. Look for a small box of "Ideal" "crimp
on" connectors. Thats what I use anyway. They have basic instalation tools
starting at about 5 to 8 bucks. Talk to a store helper. You need to figure
out whether you have RG59, RG6 dual sheild or RG6 Quad Shield sticking out
of your wall. That is your major issue right there, figuring out what type
of coax you have. They each need their own size F connector. RG59 will be
the thinnest Quad sheild will be the thickest of the three types. I just
found this site gotta put it my favorites. It points to RG6 (scroll down to
crimp on) but the site may have RG59 (essentially the same instrructions) on
it. FYI RG59 is not used much anymore.
http://www.hometech.com/learn/coaxterm.html
Can't help you much more without being there.
Norm



"Joaquin Tall" wrote in message
...
We just bought our home and the previous owner left, what seems to be, a
very nice looking antenna on the roof. Since we don't get our local San
Diego HD channels from D/N, I'd like to try the roof antenna for local HD
programming. However, when he left, the schmuck cut the coax at the
F-connector[!] and I'm left with a 4" stub of coax sticking out of the
wall!

I have a small jumper to connect to the 811 receiver, but I have never
installed a F-connector.

Does anyone have an illustrated website they can direct me to, OR offer
some really simple, easy-to-understand written instructions I have no
"installers" tools to do this with, but I do have wire strippers.

Many thanks for taking the time to respond!

Alain



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Old February 2nd 07, 10:02 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Tam/WB2TT
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"Joaquin Tall" wrote in message
...
We just bought our home and the previous owner left, what seems to be, a
very nice looking antenna on the roof. Since we don't get our local San
Diego HD channels from D/N, I'd like to try the roof antenna for local HD
programming. However, when he left, the schmuck cut the coax at the
F-connector[!] and I'm left with a 4" stub of coax sticking out of the
wall!

I have a small jumper to connect to the 811 receiver, but I have never
installed a F-connector.

Does anyone have an illustrated website they can direct me to, OR offer
some really simple, easy-to-understand written instructions I have no
"installers" tools to do this with, but I do have wire strippers.

Many thanks for taking the time to respond!

Alain


Get a twist on connector like everybody is telling you. Get one that has
instructions on the back. Plus, a 4 inch stub is not very useful; go to
Radio Shack and get an F barrel connector. That will let you connect another
cable on to the stub.
What you end up with is:
4 inch stub.
install twist on F connector to the stub
screw the barrel connector to the stub's F connector
screw your new coax, with an F connector on the end, to the other end of the
barrel connector.

Tam


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Old February 2nd 07, 10:28 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
NadCixelsyd
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On Feb 2, 3:51 pm, "Norm" wrote:
out whether you have RG59, RG6 dual sheild or RG6 Quad Shield sticking out


FYI: Older RG59 cable is 0.242" (6.1mm) in diameter. Rg-6 is
0.265" (6.7mm) in diameter.

Slight hijack: I'm about to replace all my 20 year-old RG59 cable.
What's the difference between dual shield and quad shield? At my
local electronics store, $60 will buy 1000 feet of dual shield. $120
will buy 1000 feet of quad shield. Is the extra $$$ worth the extra
shielding?

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Old February 2nd 07, 10:44 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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"NadCixelsyd" wrote:
On Feb 2, 3:51 pm, "Norm" wrote:
out whether you have RG59, RG6 dual sheild or RG6 Quad Shield sticking
out


FYI: Older RG59 cable is 0.242" (6.1mm) in diameter. Rg-6 is
0.265" (6.7mm) in diameter.

Slight hijack: I'm about to replace all my 20 year-old RG59 cable.
What's the difference between dual shield and quad shield? At my
local electronics store, $60 will buy 1000 feet of dual shield. $120
will buy 1000 feet of quad shield. Is the extra $$$ worth the extra
shielding?


First off, you are talking about replacing the rg59 with rg6, yes?
If so, it may be worth the extra, it depends on the installation.
It probably won't make a difference worth noticing.

Chip

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Old February 3rd 07, 01:28 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Charlie Hoffpauir
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Default F-Type Connector Installation Help, Please!

On 02 Feb 2007 21:44:45 GMT, wrote:

"NadCixelsyd" wrote:
On Feb 2, 3:51 pm, "Norm" wrote:
out whether you have RG59, RG6 dual sheild or RG6 Quad Shield sticking
out


FYI: Older RG59 cable is 0.242" (6.1mm) in diameter. Rg-6 is
0.265" (6.7mm) in diameter.

Slight hijack: I'm about to replace all my 20 year-old RG59 cable.
What's the difference between dual shield and quad shield? At my
local electronics store, $60 will buy 1000 feet of dual shield. $120
will buy 1000 feet of quad shield. Is the extra $$$ worth the extra
shielding?


First off, you are talking about replacing the rg59 with rg6, yes?
If so, it may be worth the extra, it depends on the installation.
It probably won't make a difference worth noticing.

Chip


I think there is also a difference in the minimum bend radius each
type will take. Basically, the heavier and hard to flex the cable is,
the less loss you get with it, but the larger the minimum bend radius
is. If you don't have more than a hundred or so feet for a run, I
think dual shield is recommended, but for very long runs, quad shield.

I have a "lot" of cable installed now, with 2 downleads for Satellite
Internet, 4 for DirecTV HD from dish to multiswitch then 8 from
multiswitch to 4 DVRs, and 1 of an outside cell phone
antenna/repeater, and it's all dual shield and no run more than 100
ft.
Charlie Hoffpauir
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