Yamaha RX V2700 or Denon 3806

The features on the new Yamaha look amazing. I am just not sure about the
sound quality on the Yamaha for CD's. Anyone compare the Yamaha to the
Denon as far as 2 channel is concerned? Who has the better reputation in
home theater?

Thanks
Randy

denon


"Randy and Michelle" wrote in message
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The features on the new Yamaha look amazing. I am just not sure about the
sound quality on the Yamaha for CD's. Anyone compare the Yamaha to the
Denon as far as 2 channel is concerned? Who has the better reputation in
home theater?

Thanks
Randy

Yamaha has "NS"
that stands for "nasal sound".
you could say that the Denon is way better
as far as sound quality.
If i were buying, i would buy the Denon...
However the Yamaha customer service is good too.
fancy features that look cool don't make it sound cool.
listen and trust your own ears, not salespeople.

On Jan 27, 9:32 pm, "85Capri" wrote:
denon

Yamaha : )

wrote in message
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Yamaha has "NS"
that stands for "nasal sound".

Wildly off the mark, I had a Yamaha RVX596 amp + Klipsch speakers
(supposedly notorious for their highs) and I found nothing of the kind, in
fact the sound was well balanced and smooth.

you could say that the Denon is way better
as far as sound quality.

Actually no you couldn't, in fact Yamaha is one of the only manufacturers
making their own DA circuits rather than buying them in.

If i were buying, i would buy the Denon...

Go and listen to them both and make up your own mind, both excellent makes.

However the Yamaha customer service is good too.
fancy features that look cool don't make it sound cool.
listen and trust your own ears, not salespeople.

Exactly... or misinformed newsnet posters.

--
Italo

All modern receivers made by reputable manufacturers such as the ones
you mention, will sound exactly the same.
Anyone telling you different is repeating what someone else has said.
I have a Yamaha, a Denon and a Kenwwood
receiver. They all sound EXACTLY the same.
Choose the features that you want and how much power you need.

Dezza.

"Italo" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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Yamaha has "NS"
that stands for "nasal sound".

Wildly off the mark, I had a Yamaha RVX596 amp + Klipsch speakers
(supposedly notorious for their highs) and I found nothing of the
kind, in fact the sound was well balanced and smooth.

I agree. Yamaha is known for making very good receivers with excellent
sound quality and decent designs.

Go and listen to them both and make up your own mind, both excellent
makes.

Along with many other brands.

"dezza" wrote in message
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All modern receivers made by reputable manufacturers such as the ones
you mention, will sound exactly the same.
Anyone telling you different is repeating what someone else has said.
I have a Yamaha, a Denon and a Kenwwood
receiver. They all sound EXACTLY the same.

Well not exactly, but very close.

Most good quality receivers or separates sound very good and sound very
much like another model simply because that's what they're designed to
do - amplify an audio signal without adding or removing anything from
the source.

But I have come across a few receivers that don't keep the signal pure.
Sony, JVC, Technics, and several others in the low to midrange models
often tend to add noise (hiss) to the source. They compensate by adding
lots of cool features that don't affect sound quality, but increase
customer appeal.

Kenwood has in the past made a few lower end models that actually rolled
off the bass output which affected deep bass response below about
40-50Hz to conserve power demands (audibly weak bass response with full
range speakers, but a sub could help make up the difference), although
this may not be true with current models.

Choose the features that you want and how much power you need.

Power ratings are not important.

Due to marketing, people generally believe a higher power rating means a
better receiver and more volume, but in fact it often means a lower
quality design with more noise and less real output power. The
difference between a 50w/ch amp and a 100w/ch amp is a very tiny 3dB of
volume which is hardly noticeable (power output is a logarithmic scale
3dB=2x, 10dB=10x, 20dB=100x the power).

If you use a meter to measure the output power while watching a DVD,
most of the sound requirements are below one (1) watt of power, and loud
passages are 1-5w/ch (unless you like it really loud). Remember that a
typical speaker can produce about 85-90dB of volume with one single watt
of power in an average living room at one meter. At the viewing position
with 5-7 speakers around you, it's fairly loud with just a few watts of
power.

I'd take a clean, honest, and accurate 50w receiver over a noisy 100w
model every time.

Concentrate on finding a model with clean output along with the features
you want at a reasonable price, and you'll make a good choice.

Bill wrote:
"Italo" wrote in message
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wrote in message
oups.com...
Yamaha has "NS"
that stands for "nasal sound".

Wildly off the mark, I had a Yamaha RVX596 amp + Klipsch speakers
(supposedly notorious for their highs) and I found nothing of the
kind, in fact the sound was well balanced and smooth.

I agree. Yamaha is known for making very good receivers with excellent
sound quality and decent designs.

Go and listen to them both and make up your own mind, both excellent
makes.

Along with many other brands.


I haven't shopped for a receiver lately, but one telling test that ruled
out a number of receivers for me was to switch it to an unused input,
turn the volume way up, and switch in it's various processing modes and
listen for the hiss. Some were totally silent where other popular name
brands made a lot of noise.

"Mark Storkamp" wrote in message
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Bill wrote:

Wildly off the mark, I had a Yamaha RVX596 amp + Klipsch speakers
(supposedly notorious for their highs) and I found nothing of the
kind, in fact the sound was well balanced and smooth.

I agree. Yamaha is known for making very good receivers with
excellent sound quality and decent designs.

I haven't shopped for a receiver lately, but one telling test that
ruled out a number of receivers for me was to switch it to an unused
input, turn the volume way up, and switch in it's various processing
modes and listen for the hiss. Some were totally silent where other
popular name brands made a lot of noise.


That's one test I recommend to people as well. Some say the hiss is
buried in the sound of the movie, but that's only true when there are no
quiet passages. Perhaps in an action movie where there's a lot of
action, the hiss could be unheard. But the first time you watch a drama
or anything with quiet moments, the background hiss becomes very
annoying.

A good receiver will have a very low noise floor since the preamp
circuits, DAC, main amps, etc., will all be designed properly. A noisy
receiver is a sign of a less critical design and it's one of the first
things I'm weary of.

Of course you usually have to pay a bit more to get a good receiver, but
it doesn't have to be a lot.