learning remote

Exactly what is a learning remote and how does it learn?

"Gary" wrote:
Exactly what is a learning remote and how does it learn?

Try Googling learning remote. You might learn something.

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I have done the Google search. What I really want to know is can a learning
remote learn the codes for a soyo tv original remote .There are no codes for
this remote and I want to get back to one remote (direct tv, 32 lcd,
surround sound sys)
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"Gary" wrote:
Exactly what is a learning remote and how does it learn?

Try Googling learning remote. You might learn something.

Chip

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On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:49:04 GMT, "Gary" wrote:

I have done the Google search. What I really want to know is can a learning
remote learn the codes for a soyo tv original remote .There are no codes for
this remote and I want to get back to one remote (direct tv, 32 lcd,
surround sound sys)
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"Gary" wrote:
Exactly what is a learning remote and how does it learn?

Try Googling learning remote. You might learn something.

Chip

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Yes, good ones can. for example, my Harmony can either get the codes
for the soyo from the soyo remote (it reads the IR signal that the
remote sends to the TV) or from the on-line database. There ARE codes
for your Soyo, it's just that you don't know what they are. But with a
good learning remote, you don't need to know.
Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

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Yes, good ones can. for example, my Harmony can either get the codes
for the soyo from the soyo remote (it reads the IR signal that the
remote sends to the TV) or from the on-line database. There ARE codes
for your Soyo, it's just that you don't know what they are. But with a
good learning remote, you don't need to know.
Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

Thanks for the info I have tried to find my remote codes for 3 months even
the manufacture. tells me they have no clue.

On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:24:22 +0000, Gary wrote:

Exactly what is a learning remote and how does it learn?

It reads the original signal from the original remote and stores it for
that button.

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Which Harmony do you have? I'm thinking about getting one (the 670).

TTUL... John

"Charlie Hoffpauir" wrote in message
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On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:49:04 GMT, "Gary" wrote:

I have done the Google search. What I really want to know is can a
learning
remote learn the codes for a soyo tv original remote .There are no codes
for
this remote and I want to get back to one remote (direct tv, 32 lcd,
surround sound sys)
wrote in message
...
"Gary" wrote:
Exactly what is a learning remote and how does it learn?

Try Googling learning remote. You might learn something.

Chip

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Yes, good ones can. for example, my Harmony can either get the codes
for the soyo from the soyo remote (it reads the IR signal that the
remote sends to the TV) or from the on-line database. There ARE codes
for your Soyo, it's just that you don't know what they are. But with a
good learning remote, you don't need to know.
Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 12:32:40 GMT, "SoCalCommie"
wrote:

Which Harmony do you have? I'm thinking about getting one (the 670).

TTUL... John


I have the 880. And even tho it does everything I need to do, I don't
really recommend it for anyone else, unless you've tried one and like
it. Several reasons...
1. the buttons are too small, I have small hands and I often hit two
buttons when trying to send a command.
2. the on-line programming sucks. To really get it set up, I have to
call tech support... I've had to do this 4 times already, and I've
only had it a month.
3. Because it sends a "series" of commands, spaced some unknown number
of (seconds? milliseconds?) apart, you have to keep the remote pointed
at the devices(s) for some unknown time untill all the codes have been
sent, or you don't get the full benefit. ie, to switch from my HR10
DVR to my HR20, it must send a command to the HR20 to start, to the
HR10 to stop (shut off), and the Samsung HDTV to switch from HDMI1 to
Component2 input. (the same sort of series is necessary for any change
involving a different device)

It's better than using 4 or 5 individual remotes, but it's frustrating
to know that if they'd just made the unit a bit larger, and so been
able to space the buttons better, and made a decent "programming"
feature, either on-line that really worked or "learning" without
having to access the on-line system, and provided a visual feedback
that codes have been sent, it would have been a much better device.

Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

"Charlie Hoffpauir" wrote in message
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On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 12:32:40 GMT, "SoCalCommie"
wrote:

Which Harmony do you have? I'm thinking about getting one (the 670).

TTUL... John


I have the 880. And even tho it does everything I need to do, I don't
really recommend it for anyone else, unless you've tried one and like
it. Several reasons...
1. the buttons are too small, I have small hands and I often hit two
buttons when trying to send a command.

A bit small, but the layout isn't terrible and the big button remotes don't
support many functions. Unless you want a really big remote, get used to
it.


2. the on-line programming sucks. To really get it set up, I have to
call tech support... I've had to do this 4 times already, and I've
only had it a month.

The on-line programming is easy. There are a few steps when programming
activities that may not be intuitively clear until you actually stop to
think about them, but they're simple enough. There are lots of sources of
info on the web to help.

3. Because it sends a "series" of commands, spaced some unknown number
of (seconds? milliseconds?) apart, you have to keep the remote pointed
at the devices(s) for some unknown time untill all the codes have been
sent, or you don't get the full benefit. ie, to switch from my HR10
DVR to my HR20, it must send a command to the HR20 to start, to the
HR10 to stop (shut off), and the Samsung HDTV to switch from HDMI1 to
Component2 input. (the same sort of series is necessary for any change
involving a different device)

The delays for steps are not unknown, in fact, you can program them
yourself. Try reducing them until the desired function won't work, then add
50 or 100 ms. Regular remotes send series as well, or else require multple
button pushes (which is just a manual series of commands instead of an
automatic series). If you had been watching satellite last night when the
tube was turned off and turn it on tonight and want to watch dvd, you have
to turn on the tv, wait some short time, change the input, etc. The harmony
turns on the tv and then some short time (300 ms or so) later will send the
next command to change to the proper input. The command series you posted
should be well under 1/2 a second.


It's better than using 4 or 5 individual remotes, but it's frustrating
to know that if they'd just made the unit a bit larger, and so been
able to space the buttons better, and made a decent "programming"
feature, either on-line that really worked or "learning" without
having to access the on-line system, and provided a visual feedback
that codes have been sent, it would have been a much better device.

People don't want remotes the size of a box of crackers. The programming is
quite decent if you have half a brain. The on-line works well, as does the
learning function, although you do have to be online for that. Maybe a
light on the unit that extiguishes when the commands have been sent would be
nice, but since I use a ir combiner that flashes red when it receives a
signal, I already have the visual feedback.


Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

"Gary" wrote in message
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I have done the Google search. What I really want to know is can a learning
remote learn the codes for a soyo tv original remote .There are no codes
for this remote and I want to get back to one remote (direct tv, 32 lcd,
surround sound sys)
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"Gary" wrote:
Exactly what is a learning remote and how does it learn?

Try Googling learning remote. You might learn something.

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