When would the 1080p TVs start becoming available?

We've now gone from 720p to 1080i and these days, the 1080p is what is
coming out with the later models. What I was wondering though was
when we can expect to start seeing displays which are capable of
greater than 1080p? I believe the next resolution standard will be
1440p or at least 1440i (but don't quote me on that please).

What would motivate the TV manufacturers to start making displays
which are capable of going higher than 1080p? Would appreciate your
thoughts into this. Thanks.

On Jan 28, 8:47 pm, No Way wrote:
We've now gone from 720p to 1080i and these days, the 1080p is what
is
coming out with the later models. What I was wondering though was
when we can expect to start seeing displays which are capable of
greater than 1080p? I believe the next resolution standard will be
1440p or at least 1440i (but don't quote me on that please).

What would motivate the TV manufacturers to start making displays
which are capable of going higher than 1080p? Would appreciate
your
thoughts into this. Thanks.

Do not hold your breath for higher resolutions. They're barely up to
speed on the current system and now you want it to be replaced again.
Not happening for a while -- if ever. Bill Gates thinks TV is going
to undergo major changes in the next 5 years with IPTV. If he's right,
you might be getting massive doses of YouTube instead of network TV.
Oh Boy.

GG

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No Way wrote:

We've now gone from 720p to 1080i and these days, the 1080p is what is
coming out with the later models. What I was wondering though was
when we can expect to start seeing displays which are capable of
greater than 1080p? I believe the next resolution standard will be
1440p or at least 1440i (but don't quote me on that please).

What would motivate the TV manufacturers to start making displays
which are capable of going higher than 1080p? Would appreciate your
thoughts into this. Thanks.

A new broadcast standard. It only took 50 years to replace the old one.

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Tom Stiller

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No Way wrote:
We've now gone from 720p to 1080i and these days, the 1080p is what is
coming out with the later models. What I was wondering though was
when we can expect to start seeing displays which are capable of
greater than 1080p? I believe the next resolution standard will be
1440p or at least 1440i (but don't quote me on that please).

What would motivate the TV manufacturers to start making displays
which are capable of going higher than 1080p? Would appreciate your
thoughts into this. Thanks.

The next step is 2K, since that is a current digital intermediate
format. 2K is 2048x1536 progressive, which isn't a great deal better
than 1080p. Beyond that is 4K and 8K, which are.

It wouldn't be impossible for 2K as 2048x1152 (for 16:9) in eight bit
color to be added to the ATSC table as MPEG-2 encoding improves, but it
would be pretty unlikely.

I think you will have to wait for the AATSC committee to decide.

Matthew

--
I'm a contractor. If you want an opinion I'll sell you one.
Which one do you want?

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Tom Stiller wrote:

A new broadcast standard. It only took 50 years to replace the old one.

Our "new broadcast standard" isn't a whole lot different from the stuff
that Logie Baird built in the 20s.

I love the story of Logie Baird, he was the ultimate charlatan, an
old-fashioned boffin. His stuff worked though; well, most of it. Maybe
not the hemorrhoid cream or the glass razor ...

aside
In the early 70s I was a young student in London, and the only place to
get a decent cup of coffee in all of the United Kingdom, the Republic of
Ireland and even those Franco-Norman Islands in those days was in Soho
where the Italians had coffee shops. The one I frequented was in Frith
Street, and one day I looked up and saw one of those round blue discs
that they [no, I don't know exactly who "they" are] put on the outside
of buildings where something of historic interest has happened, and it
said "In this building John Logie Baird invented television in 1926" or
something to that effect, and I was like, "Do what now?" because I was
just a boy and had no idea.
/aside
--
W. Oates

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Warren Oates wrote:

In article ,
Tom Stiller wrote:

A new broadcast standard. It only took 50 years to replace the old one.

Our "new broadcast standard" isn't a whole lot different from the stuff
that Logie Baird built in the 20s.


Too bad Logie wasn't on the committee.

--
Tom Stiller

PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3
7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF

"No Way" wrote in message
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We've now gone from 720p to 1080i and these days, the 1080p is what is
coming out with the later models. What I was wondering though was
when we can expect to start seeing displays which are capable of
greater than 1080p? I believe the next resolution standard will be
1440p or at least 1440i (but don't quote me on that please).

What would motivate the TV manufacturers to start making displays
which are capable of going higher than 1080p? Would appreciate your
thoughts into this. Thanks.

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What would motivate them is having a source of something greater.
So far, even 1080p is limited to HD discs.
There is (as far as I know) nothing planned that is greater.

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:37:12 -0800, Richard C. wrote:

"No Way" wrote in message
...
We've now gone from 720p to 1080i and these days, the 1080p is what is
coming out with the later models. What I was wondering though was
when we can expect to start seeing displays which are capable of
greater than 1080p? I believe the next resolution standard will be
1440p or at least 1440i (but don't quote me on that please).

What would motivate the TV manufacturers to start making displays
which are capable of going higher than 1080p? Would appreciate your
thoughts into this. Thanks.

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What would motivate them is having a source of something greater.
So far, even 1080p is limited to HD discs.
There is (as far as I know) nothing planned that is greater.

The only thing that's likely to drive a higher resolution in the near
future might be game players. I don't expect to see the cable companies
offering anything better than 1080i in the next few years. Most of the
cable channels are still SD so they aren't likely waste bandwidth on 1080p
until they've converted more channels to 1080i.

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:27:49 -0500, General Schvantzkoph
wrote:

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:37:12 -0800, Richard C. wrote:

"No Way" wrote in message
...
We've now gone from 720p to 1080i and these days, the 1080p is what is
coming out with the later models. What I was wondering though was
when we can expect to start seeing displays which are capable of
greater than 1080p? I believe the next resolution standard will be
1440p or at least 1440i (but don't quote me on that please).

What would motivate the TV manufacturers to start making displays
which are capable of going higher than 1080p? Would appreciate your
thoughts into this. Thanks.

=======================
What would motivate them is having a source of something greater.
So far, even 1080p is limited to HD discs.
There is (as far as I know) nothing planned that is greater.

The only thing that's likely to drive a higher resolution in the near
future might be game players. I don't expect to see the cable companies
offering anything better than 1080i in the next few years. Most of the
cable channels are still SD so they aren't likely waste bandwidth on 1080p
until they've converted more channels to 1080i.

There are cable companies going beyond 720i for HD?
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

There are cable companies going beyond 720i for HD?
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

They are going to 1080i but that's it, they haven't got any incentive to
offer 1080p. There is limited bandwidth on cable systems so that can't
even offer the majority of their channels in any kind of HD let alone
1080p. When they drop the analog channels they'll have some more room to
play with, but I doubt they'll use the space for 1080p, more likely
they'll use it to offer more 1080i channels. You might see some TV over IP
at a higher resolution then 1080i, but who knows when. The highest speed
broadband that's being offered in the US is 30Mbits from Verizon's top
tier FIOS service. 30M is good enough for 1080i but not 1080p. In Sweden
and Korea they have 100M broadband so they might see 1080p IPTV in the
near future but it's not in the cards for the US.