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On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 00:57:28 GMT, "Guest" wrote:

Indeed. Unlike MS and Sony, Nintendo doesn't have other business units
to fall back on.

Which is why they should have had the best system since videogames is all
that they do.

It certainly seems to be the most popular system at the moment, and it
has been since launch. Nintendo was the only one of the three turning
a profit last round too, and they are in fact turning a profit from
the start with Wii too.

If they had tried to go head to head with the big boys, they would
probably
have lost.

They did. Don't tell me about the Wii selling more than the PS3. You
people said that you were not competing with them...

Wii is more popular than both PS3 and 360, so Wii has won so far.

Outright lie right there...


So they tried a new strategy, one which has turned out to be massively
successful.

I would not call it new, I would call it a scam. It's success has yet to
be
judged.

The fact that demand is still high as hell this long after launch
proves you wrong.

BS.


The just repackaged a GC and called it new.

You already know that this claim is false, but you are not a person
who cares if you lie,

You know it to be true. It is an overclocked Gamecube.

No, it is not. It has been built from the ground up to keep it small,
quiet, and to save energy.

You Nintendo people need to go into politics.


as long as it helps your cause in promoting your employer's product,
the Xbox 360.

They should pay me.

Your employer doesn't pay you? Wow.

I see that you are well paid...


It now turns out that this strategy has been extremely successful.
Even though the 360 has been out for a year more than Wii,
Nintendo's console will soon outsell it.

It has not and will not.

Demand for Wii has only increased since launch. It shows no sign of
slowing down.

Oh boy. I see nothing but bull**** games for the system. The DS looks
better than the Wii.


Yes it does. When people see (or don't see) wave after wave of bull****
games, they will leave the Wii behind.

People are loving their Wii, unfortunately for you.

Also, when people see the 360 or even the PS3 in action, who would want
a Wii?

Those who are tired of the old graphics race bull**** and want a new
and innovative experience.

Lol!


This doesn't look good for Microsoft.

They are already in control.

Sadly, no. They are being owned in Japan,

Again, Japan no longer matters. It's good to have, but systems can survive
without their software.

and worldwide Wii is eating
up the 360's ONE YEAR advantage.

Oh oby.


And remember, Japans hates the 360. Nintendo will absolutely slaughter
MS over there.

Who cares? In the 80's and 90's, support from Japan was a must. Now
that
American publisher's games are the hottest, Japan is not so important
anymore.

LOL, I love it when you make up excuses when you've been owned

If if if. Your wishful thinking doesn't stop Wii's success. And you
are right: Nintendo were just breaking even at launch. I assume that
they'll start making money on each console sold pretty soon.

If MS does buy Capcom, that will spell doom for Sony and Nintendo...

LOL.

After a while, that Wii controller will be a memory and the bull****
games cannot carry the load.

What load?

In absence pf the gimmick controller. You do need games to keep people
interested you know.

The Wii Remote won't suddenly disappear you know. It's still there,
and games are making use of it.

People alreayd see the limitations of the Wii.

Actually, they don't. One of the best looking games, Zelda, is just a
ported GameCube game, and Wii is at least 2.5 times as powerful as GC.

It's an overlcokced GC.

No it's not. It's custom built from the ground up.

Why do you think that the 360 games show the graphics on the
commercials
and the Wii likse to shy away from show the grpahics?

Because the Wii's main focus isn't graphics.

Looking at it, I see why...

I bet you do. But not everyone is a fat and spotty teenager. Most
people just want to have fun when playing, and that's what Wii
delivers. Better than anything else.

Bull**** mister!


it's been optimized to be much faster than GC,

You mean - overclocked.

No.

And indeed, both the CPU and GPU were built
from the ground up for Wii.

Like 7 years ago.

Nope. Wrong as always

What you see inside the Wii console is not old technology. It is
state
of the art technology, only the focus was more on making it smaller,
quieter and more efficient rather than bigger, faster, noisier and
more
power draining.

Oh boy. How we don't see new technology on the screen?

Because the focus was on the innovative control system and the things
I mention above.

Like I said, the controller will wear off.

Graphics will wear off. The controller is a huge hit.

It cannot be used for all types of games.

Sure it can.

If Nintendo would have had a powerful system, I would have bought it.

Sure, but you are a tiny minority - a fat and spotty hardcore gamer
who only cares about graphics. Most people don't. And Wii's target
market is... MOST PEOPLE!

I don't care ONLY about grpahics, but I want the graphics to be the best
that they can be. The Wii does not even give you a chance.


Only a complete moron would claim that the only way technology can
move is towards being bigger and badder.

Better and badder( I noticed that you left out BETTER) is the way it
always
moves buddy.

Then why doesn't everyone use SACD instead of CD?

Too expensive and too complicated for most Americans who just want 'good
enough.'

Exactly. And Wii's control system is a lot less complicated and a lot
more user friendly, and allows non-gamers to pick it up right away.
And the graphics are good enough.

Not if you have an HDTV.


BetaMax instead of VHS? People want stuff to be user friendly. They
don't
care about HD graphics.

When it comes to graphics - they do.

They don't. Otherwise BetaMax would have won over VHS.

Betamax and VHS are video, not graphics.


I do.

You are a fat and spotty hardcore gamer, and you do not represent the
rest of the world - the majority.

BS name calling of your own image does not win an arguement.


Such a person would have to claim that state of the art mobile
technology is "old technology" because the focus is on making
it small and efficient rather than big and powerful.

As usual, you are trying to confuse the issue. NO ONE ever said that
small things are not technologically advanced. You are just making BS
excuses and coming with a non-issue to act as if you have a vlaid
claim.
Everyone know that mobile phones get better and use more advanced
technology all of the time.

I notice that you cannot counter my argument, but instead resort to
simply claiming that I am wrong without explaining further. As always,
you lose miserably

No. It was a non-issue.

No, it's a huge issue because you fail to see how mobile phones are
state of the art, even though the focus is not on making them the most
power hungry beasts possible.

You have been owned again, Microsoftie

Only in your teenage mind.

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.uk...


When it comes to graphics - they do.


They don't. Otherwise BetaMax would have won over VHS.


I do.

This is because you are insecure and have a small penis.

You must be gay and ready to suck someone's dick...



You are a fat and spotty hardcore gamer, and you do not represent the
rest of the world - the majority.


Such a person would have to claim that state of the art mobile
technology is "old technology" because the focus is on making
it small and efficient rather than big and powerful.

As usual, you are trying to confuse the issue. NO ONE ever said that
small things are not technologically advanced. You are just making BS
excuses and coming with a non-issue to act as if you have a vlaid
claim.
Everyone know that mobile phones get better and use more advanced
technology all of the time.

I notice that you cannot counter my argument, but instead resort to
simply claiming that I am wrong without explaining further. As always,
you lose miserably

No. It was a non-issue.


No, it's a huge issue because you fail to see how mobile phones are
state of the art, even though the focus is not on making them the most
power hungry beasts possible.

You have been owned again, Microsoftie


What I want to know GUEST is why you don't bash the xbox360

The 360 is on point. If you have been reading my posts, I wrote that the
1st batch of 360 games did not blow my mind. I was completely turned off by
the 360. Once they came with true next generation graphics, then I became
interested.

when PC
graphics clearly 'own' them (and everything else for that matter)?


I no longer game exclusively on the PC. They are different platforms. On
top of that, I think the 360 looks better than PC games anyway. That is one
of the reasons I switched from PC to 360. I certainly would not have gone
from the PC to the Wii!

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"Stabby Rip Stab Stab" wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 01:00:15 GMT, "Guest" wrote:

Funny. A while before Wii was launched you told us that we would see
how badly Wii would do once it was launched. Now that it's been
launched and is the most succesful console ever at launch, you
"postpone" your doom and gloom predicions.

Funny

Well, I was shokced that it sold. Again, I did say that some people may
get fooled into thinking that they are getting a next generation system
like
the 360 and PS3. Many were fooled, but not for long.

They weren't fooled, because they are holding onto their systems.

It's rather sad to se you try to come up with excuses

None of the games look mind blowing while almost all of the latest
360 games devastate the mind.

And yet people are more excited about Wii, because most people don't
care about graphics.

BS.

Nope. History shows that "user friendly" "quality" any time, for
most people. Only spotty, fat geeks with special interest in something
care about quality.

Otherwise, SACD would have sold better than CD, BetaMax would have
beaten VHS, etc.

Uh, DVD sold better than VHS...


People are no longer excited about the Wii.

Then why it is incredibly difficult to get hold of it all over the
world?


Is it really?

Stabby Rip Stab Stab writes:
And yet people are more excited about Wii, because most people don't
care about graphics.

I think people do care about graphics, just not nearly as much as some
think. They're simply one factor, and good gameplay is probably far
more important (you tend to forget about mediocre graphics after playing
for a while, but bad gameplay _never_ gets old :-).

Improving graphics power does seem to be a game of diminishing returns
and arguably even the GC is past the point where the graphics are
basically "good enough". The N64, while it was a great system, was just
a little too chunky and slow, and the graphics in many games got a bit
irritating after a while (and I've found even graphically acclaimed PS2
games to be a bit bit grating on the eyes) -- but the GC seems quite
fine in that regard if handled well by the developer.

I suppose after HDTV becomes normal (maybe 10 years from now?) people's
expectations will have increased, and systems will have to be more
powerful to be seen as "good enough". Presumably Nintendo will be there
with an appropriate system for the times.

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On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:40:06 GMT, "Guest" wrote:

Nope. History shows that "user friendly" "quality" any time, for
most people. Only spotty, fat geeks with special interest in something
care about quality.

Otherwise, SACD would have sold better than CD, BetaMax would have
beaten VHS, etc.

Uh, DVD sold better than VHS...

The reason being that it's more user friendly (no more rewinding of
tapes, etc.).

People are no longer excited about the Wii.

Then why it is incredibly difficult to get hold of it all over the
world?

Is it really?

Yes.

On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:36:01 GMT, "Guest" wrote:

They did. Don't tell me about the Wii selling more than the PS3. You
people said that you were not competing with them...

Wii is more popular than both PS3 and 360, so Wii has won so far.

Outright lie right there...

Unlike your unresearched nonsense, I actually base my comments on
facts.

I would not call it new, I would call it a scam. It's success has yet to
be judged.

The fact that demand is still high as hell this long after launch
proves you wrong.

BS.

Haha, how convincing You don't learn how to put forth valid
arguments at Microsoft, do you?

Demand for Wii has only increased since launch. It shows no sign of
slowing down.

Oh boy. I see nothing but bull**** games for the system. The DS looks
better than the Wii.

And yet it's extremely popular, and the demand doesn't seem to stop.

This doesn't look good for Microsoft.

They are already in control.

Sadly, no. They are being owned in Japan,

Again, Japan no longer matters. It's good to have, but systems can survive
without their software.

Sure Japan matters. It's a huge market!

Sure, but you are a tiny minority - a fat and spotty hardcore gamer
who only cares about graphics. Most people don't. And Wii's target
market is... MOST PEOPLE!

I don't care ONLY about grpahics

Then why didn't you get interested in 360 games until they got better
graphics?

Exactly. And Wii's control system is a lot less complicated and a lot
more user friendly, and allows non-gamers to pick it up right away.
And the graphics are good enough.

Not if you have an HDTV.

Sure it is. And most people don't.

When it comes to graphics - they do.

They don't. Otherwise BetaMax would have won over VHS.

Betamax and VHS are video, not graphics.

It's about "quality". Look at the word. "Quality". People take user
friendliness over "quality" any day. Graphics quality, picture
quality, audio quality... They are just not that important when
compared to how user friendly something is.

You are a fat and spotty hardcore gamer, and you do not represent the
rest of the world - the majority.

BS name calling of your own image does not win an arguement.

Oh, the argument was won long ago. Before Wii was launched you said
that it would certainly fail, but it didn't. What I said would happen,
happened. Now you are claiming that it will "fail" at some later
stage, but clearly you are just full of it as always.

Every single thing you have claimed has been wrong.

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"Stabby Rip Stab Stab" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:36:01 GMT, "Guest" wrote:

They did. Don't tell me about the Wii selling more than the PS3. You
people said that you were not competing with them...

Wii is more popular than both PS3 and 360, so Wii has won so far.

Outright lie right there...

Unlike your unresearched nonsense, I actually base my comments on
facts.

What 'facts?'


I would not call it new, I would call it a scam. It's success has yet
to
be judged.

The fact that demand is still high as hell this long after launch
proves you wrong.

BS.

Haha, how convincing You don't learn how to put forth valid
arguments at Microsoft, do you?

?


Demand for Wii has only increased since launch. It shows no sign of
slowing down.

Oh boy. I see nothing but bull**** games for the system. The DS looks
better than the Wii.

And yet it's extremely popular, and the demand doesn't seem to stop.

****, the PS3 was extremly popular too. When both systems came out along
with paid for hype and everything, they were popular. I don't see much hope
for either down the road. The PS3 is too expsensive and the Wii is not
enough. Couple that with the Wii's BS games and you have a system that
cannot survive two years. I am not being biased when I say that, but the
Wii's games are a bunch of BS. If they were hot, I would look into them.


This doesn't look good for Microsoft.

They are already in control.

Sadly, no. They are being owned in Japan,

Again, Japan no longer matters. It's good to have, but systems can
survive
without their software.

Sure Japan matters. It's a huge market!

It is, but would rather be #1 in the US or #1 in Japan? Like I wrote, most
of the hottest games no longer come from Japan so they no longer have the
importance that they once had. The used to be imortant only because most of
the hottest and most of the games came from there. Now the hottest games
comes from the US, so Japan is no longer needed. It would be nice to have,
but if they don't get it, it won't hurt what's going on in hte country that
I am in.


Sure, but you are a tiny minority - a fat and spotty hardcore gamer
who only cares about graphics. Most people don't. And Wii's target
market is... MOST PEOPLE!

I don't care ONLY about grpahics

Then why didn't you get interested in 360 games until they got better
graphics?

Because the graphics looked no different that what you would get on an
X-Box. Who would want to buy a new system just to get old styled games?
What am I talking about? People did buy the Wii. Or at least Nintendo had
a hook up to make people buy it. With the BS games, it will be outta here
sooner than later.

See MAN, good or at least decent gameplay is a given. I want hot graphics
to go along with it, or at the least I want graphics that take technology
and a 'new' system to the next level. I cannot buy a system with old
technology in a new package. While on paper the 360 looked mind blowing and
even unessecary, the first line-up made it look like a repacakged X-Box.
Now the Wii is a repacakged GC with grpahics and games to match. The
wiikness of the systems let's me know ahead of time that the system can do
but so much graphics wise. This is the main reason I am not concerned with
a WI.. The other are the games. If it's not the same old crap, then it's
too many kiddy games or bull**** looking(and from reviews 'playing') games.


Exactly. And Wii's control system is a lot less complicated and a lot
more user friendly, and allows non-gamers to pick it up right away.
And the graphics are good enough.

Not if you have an HDTV.

Sure it is.

I told you that ti's not.

And most people don't.

I great many do.


When it comes to graphics - they do.

They don't. Otherwise BetaMax would have won over VHS.

Betamax and VHS are video, not graphics.

It's about "quality". Look at the word. "Quality".

You did not mention quality above. I also believe that Beta costed more
than VHS, like Laserdisc costing more than VHS. S-VHS never caught on NOT
because of quality, but because of the cost. Not to mention people did not
know that there was a such thing as haivng higher resolution video. On top
of that, they probably were not sure what is was that they should see or
that they needed it.

Now as far as quality is concerned. Some people want quality over BS any
day. That is why you have high-end electronics store with high prices vs.
Circuit City with crap. It is people like me who want fine quality that
lead to DVD players. Now you know that ost people did not even have the
proper hook up fro a DVD player! I am talking composite at the least!

People take user
friendliness over "quality" any day. Graphics quality, picture
quality, audio quality... They are just not that important when
compared to how user friendly something is.

Only for the idiot or illiterate.


You are a fat and spotty hardcore gamer, and you do not represent the
rest of the world - the majority.

BS name calling of your own image does not win an arguement.

Oh, the argument was won long ago. Before Wii was launched you said
that it would certainly fail, but it didn't.

It did ok, but you must wait for a period of one year in ored to determine
if it was truly a hit. The Dreamcast sold and was a hit, then it folded.

What I said would happen,
happened. Now you are claiming that it will "fail" at some later
stage, but clearly you are just full of it as always.

It will fail. It failed before it went out the door. Nintendo is a
con-artist company. What a way to go out.


Every single thing you have claimed has been wrong.

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"Stabby Rip Stab Stab" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:40:06 GMT, "Guest" wrote:

Nope. History shows that "user friendly" "quality" any time, for
most people. Only spotty, fat geeks with special interest in something
care about quality.

Otherwise, SACD would have sold better than CD, BetaMax would have
beaten VHS, etc.

Uh, DVD sold better than VHS...

The reason being that it's more user friendly (no more rewinding of
tapes, etc.).

Bull****! I was working at CC during the late 1990's and early 2000. Most
people never heard of it, did not have the hook ups and did not want spend
the money on one. It was not user friendly because most people had to get a
new TV(yes) in order to hook it up. If they got that RF converter, that
would be like watching regular low-res TV from a DVD player. No stereo, no
improved picture.

People did not know anything about higher quality video and they did not
care. Most people just want something cheap (that could be why the Wii
sold) and that works. The Wii had fales advertising. They made it appear
as if it was a new system. They made it appear as if it was state of the
art, but it was a state of the old art. Nintendo, when will you stop
scamming? This is your last draw. I await Mario XX on the 360.


People are no longer excited about the Wii.

Then why it is incredibly difficult to get hold of it all over the
world?

Is it really?

Yes.

No, it's a huge issue because you fail to see how mobile phones are
state of the art, even though the focus is not on making them the most
power hungry beasts possible.

You have been owned again, Microsoftie



What I want to know GUEST is why you don't bash the xbox360




The 360 is on point. If you have been reading my posts, I wrote that
the 1st batch of 360 games did not blow my mind. I was completely
turned off by the 360. Once they came with true next generation
graphics, then I became interested.


No, all I remember is you slagging off the wii before you had even laid
eyes on any graphics. And going on about Madden and GTA both of which
have never shone in terms of graphics, GTA's being decidely ropey in places.


when PC

graphics clearly 'own' them (and everything else for that matter)?



I no longer game exclusively on the PC. They are different platforms.
On top of that, I think the 360 looks better than PC games anyway. That
is one of the reasons I switched from PC to 360. I certainly would not
have gone from the PC to the Wii!


Well since you think that the 360 has better graphics than a PC. I
suggest you get some new glasses and then use them to find more um.. er
... excuses for hating Nintendo.

-- Thi


You are a fat and spotty hardcore gamer, and you do not
represent the
rest of the world - the majority.


BS name calling of your own image does not win an arguement.


Oh, the argument was won long ago. Before Wii was launched you said
that it would certainly fail, but it didn't.


It did ok, but you must wait for a period of one year in ored to
determine if it was truly a hit. The Dreamcast sold and was a hit, then
it folded.

It did 'OK'? It's been one of the most (if not the most) sucessful
launces in console history. You are such a gaylord.