Small digital sets out in March 07?

Wes Newell wrote:

I suspect you won't see the really cheap ones til after the March
deadline. I fully expect to see 13" sets with atsc tuners under $100 by
mid year.

Hope so

I need something for an RV

Doesn't need to be HD.... just digital,,,, standard or
enhanced def would be fine. Tube even fine if small
such as 13"

Mark Crispin wrote:

I am certain that portable digital TVs will be primarily, if not entirely,
LCD.


That's fine by me as long as the small ones are cheap
in cost

I don't want to pay a ton of money for a13" digital TV
even if LCD based as will be in RV.... subject to
vibration, theft, etc

On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, wrote:
I don't want to pay a ton of money for a13" digital TV
even if LCD based as will be in RV.... subject to
vibration, theft, etc

If you can afford an RV, you can afford a digital TV. New model RVs are
all being sold with LCD TVs for the simple reason that it's less weight
and doesn't require as much space.

I doubt very much that a thief entering an RV is going to go for the TV.
Doing so requires locating it (since it would be stowed for transport),
undoing all the plugs and cables, wrestling it out of its cabinet and/or
brackets, and then exiting with it. A burglar is much more likely to grab
something faster to locate, and easier/faster to take away.

What's more, used TVs are a dime a dozen in pawn shops.

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Mark Crispin wrote:

If you can afford an RV, you can afford a digital TV

is the SIZE dummy

I need something sub 20"..... digital and cheap

Mark Crispin wrote:

Right now, there's no
compelling reason for a digital portable TV; analog performs quite well
unless you're interested in watching some digital subchannel which isn't
carried in analog. By the time analog is switched off, digital tuners
will be a lot better than today's crop; that's the nature of things.

So maybe I should just go ahead and get a small, cheap
LCD based analog TV? Say 20" LCD with NTSC tuner

And take advantage of fire sale prices you think?
I just assumed that analog signals would very soon
disappear after ALL TVs have digital tuners in them.
No?

wrote:

If you can afford an RV, you can afford a digital TV

is the SIZE dummy

I need something sub 20"..... digital and cheap

Sorry.... I apologize Mark

I was being crass... again forget the tone above

On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:31:37 -0600, nospam wrote:

Mark Crispin wrote:

Right now, there's no
compelling reason for a digital portable TV; analog performs quite well
unless you're interested in watching some digital subchannel which isn't
carried in analog. By the time analog is switched off, digital tuners
will be a lot better than today's crop; that's the nature of things.

So maybe I should just go ahead and get a small, cheap LCD based analog
TV? Say 20" LCD with NTSC tuner

And take advantage of fire sale prices you think? I just assumed that
analog signals would very soon disappear after ALL TVs have digital tuners
in them. No?

This all depends on where you live. Here, all the lower analog vhf
channels have so much interference on them they are unwatchable. That's
the main problem with analog TV and why I switched to digital. HD was just
a nice plus. I don't have a TV with an atsc tuner in it, but every TV in
the house is behind a network with 5 atsc tuners in it. For me, NTSC has
been dead for over a year and good ridance. There are 20" TV's now with
atsc tuners in them, I'd get one of those or I wouldn't buy one unless you
are going to use it behind something that has atsc tuners in it.

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On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Wes Newell wrote:
For me, NTSC has
been dead for over a year and good ridance. There are 20" TV's now with
atsc tuners in them, I'd get one of those or I wouldn't buy one unless you
are going to use it behind something that has atsc tuners in it.

That's pretty much the same situation for me. My living room HDTV has an
NTSC tuner, and the only time I use it is to remind me how much analog
sucks. Normally, it's tuned to ATSC or satellite. The bedroom TV is
ATSC/satellite only.

However, he did say that he is installing it in an RV. That makes a
difference. Many RV campgrounds have cable TV, and it's almost always
analog-only. I say "almost always" as weasel-words; I personally have
never encountered a campground with digital cable.

You still see some RVers extending their TV antenna for OTA analog TV, but
far more RVers use satellite these days. Most of the small satellite
receivers only have analog, composite, or S video output; so an analog TV
with composite (or S) input is fine for that purpose today.

That's what I use in my RV; a TV/VCR combo with a composite input that I
bought about 5 years ago. It's the last NTSC TV that I'll ever buy. I
have a single-satellite dish, so HDTV from satellite isn't an option; and
its receiver only has composite output. Up north out of satellite range,
I either spring for campground cable or tune in whatever local NTSC
channels that exist. Or don't watch TV at all.

Another consideration for "up north" is that many of the small villages
have a local TV station that is fed via microwave and rebroadcasts from
the big city. It's part of this "rural telecommunications" system for
remote areas. Typically, there is one channel, and it goes from one big
city station to another depending upon what is contracted for that time
slot.

I suspect that these rural rebroadcasting stations will remain NTSC for
many years to come. There is no reason to switch them to ATSC, and the
people who want HDTV all have satellite (with HUGE dishes up north!).

-- Mark --

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Mark Crispin wrote:

However, he did say that he is installing it in an RV.

Well..either an RV or very small cabin house...very
small now

Basically space will be at a premium

On Jan 23, 1:08 pm, wrote:
Is March 07 still anticipated date to start seeing
small (under 26") digital sets out?

I'm wanting a 20" digital set with built in ATSCtuner

I still have not seen any in the store yet. Not even the Target one
from the link is in the store.