Wii TV

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is HD or HD ready these days, unless you're cheaping out.


B: Who says Nintendo hates HDTV?


They did and so did their employees on this group and other websites. I
am
sure they only hate it because the Wii cannot do it. Man, I wished this
Wii
will flop and fall off so that Nintendo could stop peddling there
old-school, broken down games...




So you've gone from being convinced that 'no one is interested in
Nintendo's old-school games' to 'wishing'.

Don't you get it yet? You're an idiot!



Listen young man, go back to the 5th grade and learn something. Nintendo
is a maker of the past. They sold yes, but what happens from here until
July will tell you what the deal is. None of the games look mind blowing
while almost all of the latest 360 games devastate the mind. Even the PS3
can't deal.

earth to dumbass:

HDTV market penetration is 33% at best and gameplay graphics.

grow up, shut up, and stop being a ****ing idiot.

please.

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. uk...
is HD or HD ready these days, unless you're cheaping out.


B: Who says Nintendo hates HDTV?


They did and so did their employees on this group and other websites. I
am
sure they only hate it because the Wii cannot do it. Man, I wished this
Wii
will flop and fall off so that Nintendo could stop peddling there
old-school, broken down games...




So you've gone from being convinced that 'no one is interested in
Nintendo's old-school games' to 'wishing'.

Don't you get it yet? You're an idiot!



Listen young man, go back to the 5th grade and learn something. Nintendo
is a maker of the past. They sold yes, but what happens from here until
July will tell you what the deal is. None of the games look mind blowing
while almost all of the latest 360 games devastate the mind. Even the
PS3 can't deal.

earth to dumbass:

HDTV market penetration is 33% at best and gameplay graphics.

grow up, shut up, and stop being a ****ing idiot.

please.


How come only people who either have a Wii, work for Nintendo or who love
Nintendo talk about gameplay over graphics. According to reviews of Wii
games, the gameplay is not hittin it! We already knew that the graphics are
not, so what's left?

360 and PS3 owners never talk about gameplay over graphics. We are too busy
having our minds blown by the experience.

On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:09:21 -0500, "Guest"
wrote:

Nintendo is a maker of the past. They sold yes, but what happens from
here until July will tell you what the deal is.

Funny. A while before Wii was launched you told us that we would see
how badly Wii would do once it was launched. Now that it's been
launched and is the most succesful console ever at launch, you
"postpone" your doom and gloom predicions.

Funny

None of the games look mind blowing while almost all of the latest
360 games devastate the mind.

And yet people are more excited about Wii, because most people don't
care about graphics.

On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:05:56 -0500, "Guest"
wrote:

Find me one place anywhere where it says Nintendo hates HDTV.

He can't, because they don't. In fact, they've stated that their next
console will be HD.

But the focus on Wii was to make it affordable and to focus on other
things than just graphics and raw power.

They only focused on that because they knew that they could not compete with
the big boys.

Indeed. Unlike MS and Sony, Nintendo doesn't have other business units
to fall back on. If they had tried to go head to head with the big
boys, they would probably have lost. So they tried a new strategy, one
which has turned out to be massively successful.

The just repackaged a GC and called it new.

You already know that this claim is false, but you are not a person
who cares if you lie, as long as it helps your cause in promoting your
employer's product, the Xbox 360.

It now turns out that this strategy has been extremely successful.
Even though the 360 has been out for a year more than Wii,
Nintendo's console will soon outsell it.

It has not and will not.

Demand for Wii has only increased since launch. It shows no sign of
slowing down. This doesn't look good for Microsoft. And remember,
Japans hates the 360. Nintendo will absolutely slaughter MS over
there.

The Wii only sold because it was cheap when compared to the two real
machines. If the other two had been $300 each, the Wii would have had
to sell for $150 or less. Nintendo is just making as much as they could off
of it. You would have to be a total idiot to spend $250 on a Wii instead of
$300 on a 360.

If if if. Your wishful thinking doesn't stop Wii's success. And you
are right: Nintendo were just breaking even at launch. I assume that
they'll start making money on each console sold pretty soon.

After a while, that Wii controller will be a memory and the bull**** games
cannot carry the load.

What load?

People alreayd see the limitations of the Wii.

Actually, they don't. One of the best looking games, Zelda, is just a
ported GameCube game, and Wii is at least 2.5 times as powerful as GC.

Why do you think that the 360 games show the graphics on the commercials
and the Wii likse to shy away from show the grpahics?

Because the Wii's main focus isn't graphics.

Nintendo's focus was to create a small system that isn't as noisy as
the 360 leaf blower.

My 360 is not noisy to me. Some people must have sensitive ears...

It's a very common complaint.

Thus, they employed new technology to make the parts smaller, faster, and
less power hungry.

New technology? How about the usual shrinking old technology? It happens
all of the time. There is NOTHING new about the Wii except the name.

There certainly is. Apart from the innovative controller which puts
the other consoles to shame, it's been optimized to be much faster
than GC, and to use only 1/3 of the electricity. You don't do that by
simply shrinking stuff. And indeed, both the CPU and GPU were built
from the ground up for Wii.

What you see inside the Wii console is not old technology. It is state
of the art technology, only the focus was more on making it smaller,
quieter and more efficient rather than bigger, faster, noisier and more
power draining.

Oh boy. How we don't see new technology on the screen?

Because the focus was on the innovative control system and the things
I mention above.

Only a complete moron would claim that the only way technology can
move is towards being bigger and badder.

Better and badder( I noticed that you left out BETTER) is the way it always
moves buddy.

Then why doesn't everyone use SACD instead of CD? BetaMax instead of
VHS? People want stuff to be user friendly. They don't care about HD
graphics.

(Note: Hardcore gaming nerds may care about graphics, but they are a
small group compared to the groups Nintendo is trying to reach.)

Such a person would have to claim that state of the art mobile technology
is "old technology" because the focus is on making it small and efficient
rather than big and powerful.

As usual, you are trying to confuse the issue. NO ONE ever said that small
things are not technologically advanced. You are just making BS excuses and
coming with a non-issue to act as if you have a vlaid claim. Everyone know
that mobile phones get better and use more advanced technology all of the
time.

I notice that you cannot counter my argument, but instead resort to
simply claiming that I am wrong without explaining further. As always,
you lose miserably

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On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:05:56 -0500, "Guest"
wrote:

Find me one place anywhere where it says Nintendo hates HDTV.

He can't, because they don't. In fact, they've stated that their next
console will be HD.

But the focus on Wii was to make it affordable and to focus on other
things than just graphics and raw power.

They only focused on that because they knew that they could not compete
with
the big boys.

Indeed. Unlike MS and Sony, Nintendo doesn't have other business units
to fall back on.

Which is why they should have had the best system since videogames is all
that they do.

If they had tried to go head to head with the big
boys, they would probably have lost.

They did. Don't tell me about the Wii selling more than the PS3. You
people said that you were not competing with them...

So they tried a new strategy, one
which has turned out to be massively successful.

I would not call it new, I would call it a scam. It's success has yet to be
judged. The N64 sold well at first, but you know where that went..


The just repackaged a GC and called it new.

You already know that this claim is false, but you are not a person
who cares if you lie,

You know it to be true. It is an overclocked Gamecube.

as long as it helps your cause in promoting your
employer's product, the Xbox 360.

They should pay me.


It now turns out that this strategy has been extremely successful.
Even though the 360 has been out for a year more than Wii,
Nintendo's console will soon outsell it.

It has not and will not.

Demand for Wii has only increased since launch. It shows no sign of
slowing down.

Yes it does. When people see (or don't see) wave after wave of bull****
games, they will leave the Wii behind. Also, when people see the 360 or
even the PS3 in action, who would want a Wii?

This doesn't look good for Microsoft.

They are already in control. Again, I though that you were not comepting
with the big boys?

And remember,
Japans hates the 360. Nintendo will absolutely slaughter MS over
there.

Who cares? In the 80's and 90's, support from Japan was a must. Now that
American publisher's games are the hottest, Japan is not so important
anymore. I do love Capcom though. Japanese publishers are dying for a hit.


The Wii only sold because it was cheap when compared to the two real
machines. If the other two had been $300 each, the Wii would have had
to sell for $150 or less. Nintendo is just making as much as they could
off
of it. You would have to be a total idiot to spend $250 on a Wii instead
of
$300 on a 360.

If if if. Your wishful thinking doesn't stop Wii's success. And you
are right: Nintendo were just breaking even at launch. I assume that
they'll start making money on each console sold pretty soon.

If MS does buy Capcom, that will spell doom for Sony and Nintendo...


After a while, that Wii controller will be a memory and the bull****
games
cannot carry the load.

What load?

In absence pf the gimmick controller. You do need games to keep people
interested you know.


People alreayd see the limitations of the Wii.

Actually, they don't. One of the best looking games, Zelda, is just a
ported GameCube game, and Wii is at least 2.5 times as powerful as GC.

It's an overlcokced GC.


Why do you think that the 360 games show the graphics on the commercials
and the Wii likse to shy away from show the grpahics?

Because the Wii's main focus isn't graphics.

Looking at it, I see why...


Nintendo's focus was to create a small system that isn't as noisy as
the 360 leaf blower.

My 360 is not noisy to me. Some people must have sensitive ears...

It's a very common complaint.

Thus, they employed new technology to make the parts smaller, faster,
and
less power hungry.

New technology? How about the usual shrinking old technology? It
happens
all of the time. There is NOTHING new about the Wii except the name.

There certainly is. Apart from the innovative controller which puts
the other consoles to shame,

Lol!!!!

it's been optimized to be much faster
than GC,

You mean - overclocked.

and to use only 1/3 of the electricity. You don't do that by
simply shrinking stuff.

You don't?

And indeed, both the CPU and GPU were built
from the ground up for Wii.

Like 7 years ago.


What you see inside the Wii console is not old technology. It is state
of the art technology, only the focus was more on making it smaller,
quieter and more efficient rather than bigger, faster, noisier and more
power draining.

Oh boy. How we don't see new technology on the screen?

Because the focus was on the innovative control system and the things
I mention above.

Like I said, the controller will wear off. It cannot be used for all types
of games. If Nintendo would have had a powerful system, I would have bought
it.


Only a complete moron would claim that the only way technology can
move is towards being bigger and badder.

Better and badder( I noticed that you left out BETTER) is the way it
always
moves buddy.

Then why doesn't everyone use SACD instead of CD?

Too expensive and too complicated for most Americans who just want 'good
enough.'

BetaMax instead of
VHS? People want stuff to be user friendly. They don't care about HD
graphics.

When it comes to graphics - they do. I do. That's why I did not buy a 360
when the first batch of games came out. I was not impressed. The second
batch got me thinking. I am not impressed with the PS3.


(Note: Hardcore gaming nerds may care about graphics, but they are a
small group compared to the groups Nintendo is trying to reach.)

Such a person would have to claim that state of the art mobile
technology
is "old technology" because the focus is on making it small and
efficient
rather than big and powerful.

As usual, you are trying to confuse the issue. NO ONE ever said that
small
things are not technologically advanced. You are just making BS excuses
and
coming with a non-issue to act as if you have a vlaid claim. Everyone
know
that mobile phones get better and use more advanced technology all of the
time.

I notice that you cannot counter my argument, but instead resort to
simply claiming that I am wrong without explaining further. As always,
you lose miserably

No. It was a non-issue.

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On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:09:21 -0500, "Guest"
wrote:

Nintendo is a maker of the past. They sold yes, but what happens from
here until July will tell you what the deal is.

Funny. A while before Wii was launched you told us that we would see
how badly Wii would do once it was launched. Now that it's been
launched and is the most succesful console ever at launch, you
"postpone" your doom and gloom predicions.

Funny

Well, I was shokced that it sold. Again, I did say that some people may
get fooled into thinking that they are getting a next generation system like
the 360 and PS3. Many were fooled, but not for long.


None of the games look mind blowing while almost all of the latest
360 games devastate the mind.

And yet people are more excited about Wii, because most people don't
care about graphics.

BS. People are no longer excited about the Wii. The paid for hype is now
over. Let's see Fight Night Round 3 look like it does now on the Wii.

On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 01:00:15 GMT, "Guest" wrote:

Funny. A while before Wii was launched you told us that we would see
how badly Wii would do once it was launched. Now that it's been
launched and is the most succesful console ever at launch, you
"postpone" your doom and gloom predicions.

Funny

Well, I was shokced that it sold. Again, I did say that some people may
get fooled into thinking that they are getting a next generation system like
the 360 and PS3. Many were fooled, but not for long.

They weren't fooled, because they are holding onto their systems.

It's rather sad to se you try to come up with excuses

None of the games look mind blowing while almost all of the latest
360 games devastate the mind.

And yet people are more excited about Wii, because most people don't
care about graphics.

BS.

Nope. History shows that "user friendly" "quality" any time, for
most people. Only spotty, fat geeks with special interest in something
care about quality.

Otherwise, SACD would have sold better than CD, BetaMax would have
beaten VHS, etc.

People are no longer excited about the Wii.

Then why it is incredibly difficult to get hold of it all over the
world?

On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 00:57:28 GMT, "Guest" wrote:

Indeed. Unlike MS and Sony, Nintendo doesn't have other business units
to fall back on.

Which is why they should have had the best system since videogames is all
that they do.

It certainly seems to be the most popular system at the moment, and it
has been since launch. Nintendo was the only one of the three turning
a profit last round too, and they are in fact turning a profit from
the start with Wii too.

If they had tried to go head to head with the big boys, they would probably
have lost.

They did. Don't tell me about the Wii selling more than the PS3. You
people said that you were not competing with them...

Wii is more popular than both PS3 and 360, so Wii has won so far.

So they tried a new strategy, one which has turned out to be massively
successful.

I would not call it new, I would call it a scam. It's success has yet to be
judged.

The fact that demand is still high as hell this long after launch
proves you wrong.

The just repackaged a GC and called it new.

You already know that this claim is false, but you are not a person
who cares if you lie,

You know it to be true. It is an overclocked Gamecube.

No, it is not. It has been built from the ground up to keep it small,
quiet, and to save energy.

as long as it helps your cause in promoting your employer's product,
the Xbox 360.

They should pay me.

Your employer doesn't pay you? Wow.

It now turns out that this strategy has been extremely successful.
Even though the 360 has been out for a year more than Wii,
Nintendo's console will soon outsell it.

It has not and will not.

Demand for Wii has only increased since launch. It shows no sign of
slowing down.

Yes it does. When people see (or don't see) wave after wave of bull****
games, they will leave the Wii behind.

People are loving their Wii, unfortunately for you.

Also, when people see the 360 or even the PS3 in action, who would want
a Wii?

Those who are tired of the old graphics race bull**** and want a new
and innovative experience.

This doesn't look good for Microsoft.

They are already in control.

Sadly, no. They are being owned in Japan, and worldwide Wii is eating
up the 360's ONE YEAR advantage.

And remember, Japans hates the 360. Nintendo will absolutely slaughter
MS over there.

Who cares? In the 80's and 90's, support from Japan was a must. Now that
American publisher's games are the hottest, Japan is not so important
anymore.

LOL, I love it when you make up excuses when you've been owned

If if if. Your wishful thinking doesn't stop Wii's success. And you
are right: Nintendo were just breaking even at launch. I assume that
they'll start making money on each console sold pretty soon.

If MS does buy Capcom, that will spell doom for Sony and Nintendo...

LOL.

After a while, that Wii controller will be a memory and the bull****
games cannot carry the load.

What load?

In absence pf the gimmick controller. You do need games to keep people
interested you know.

The Wii Remote won't suddenly disappear you know. It's still there,
and games are making use of it.

People alreayd see the limitations of the Wii.

Actually, they don't. One of the best looking games, Zelda, is just a
ported GameCube game, and Wii is at least 2.5 times as powerful as GC.

It's an overlcokced GC.

No it's not. It's custom built from the ground up.

Why do you think that the 360 games show the graphics on the commercials
and the Wii likse to shy away from show the grpahics?

Because the Wii's main focus isn't graphics.

Looking at it, I see why...

I bet you do. But not everyone is a fat and spotty teenager. Most
people just want to have fun when playing, and that's what Wii
delivers. Better than anything else.

it's been optimized to be much faster than GC,

You mean - overclocked.

No.

And indeed, both the CPU and GPU were built
from the ground up for Wii.

Like 7 years ago.

Nope. Wrong as always

What you see inside the Wii console is not old technology. It is state
of the art technology, only the focus was more on making it smaller,
quieter and more efficient rather than bigger, faster, noisier and more
power draining.

Oh boy. How we don't see new technology on the screen?

Because the focus was on the innovative control system and the things
I mention above.

Like I said, the controller will wear off.

Graphics will wear off. The controller is a huge hit.

It cannot be used for all types of games.

Sure it can.

If Nintendo would have had a powerful system, I would have bought it.

Sure, but you are a tiny minority - a fat and spotty hardcore gamer
who only cares about graphics. Most people don't. And Wii's target
market is... MOST PEOPLE!

Only a complete moron would claim that the only way technology can
move is towards being bigger and badder.

Better and badder( I noticed that you left out BETTER) is the way it
always
moves buddy.

Then why doesn't everyone use SACD instead of CD?

Too expensive and too complicated for most Americans who just want 'good
enough.'

Exactly. And Wii's control system is a lot less complicated and a lot
more user friendly, and allows non-gamers to pick it up right away.
And the graphics are good enough.

BetaMax instead of VHS? People want stuff to be user friendly. They don't
care about HD graphics.

When it comes to graphics - they do.

They don't. Otherwise BetaMax would have won over VHS.

I do.

You are a fat and spotty hardcore gamer, and you do not represent the
rest of the world - the majority.

Such a person would have to claim that state of the art mobile
technology is "old technology" because the focus is on making
it small and efficient rather than big and powerful.

As usual, you are trying to confuse the issue. NO ONE ever said that
small things are not technologically advanced. You are just making BS
excuses and coming with a non-issue to act as if you have a vlaid claim.
Everyone know that mobile phones get better and use more advanced
technology all of the time.

I notice that you cannot counter my argument, but instead resort to
simply claiming that I am wrong without explaining further. As always,
you lose miserably

No. It was a non-issue.

No, it's a huge issue because you fail to see how mobile phones are
state of the art, even though the focus is not on making them the most
power hungry beasts possible.

You have been owned again, Microsoftie

On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:41:23 +0100, Stabby Rip Stab Stab
wrote:

People are no longer excited about the Wii.

Then why it is incredibly difficult to get hold of it all over the
world?

Case in point:

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thum...2007/1/21/6696

"It's Sunday, which means at this stage you've either gotten your Wii
from your retailer of choice or you're still bitter about how hard
they are to come by. I was kind of skeptical about how much of a
demand there could still be for the fast-moving system, but it appears
as if this morning saw lines and disappointed consumers again."

Disappointed because Wii flies out of shops at an incredible rate.

Similar stories are coming in from Japan, Europe, Australia...

When it comes to graphics - they do.


They don't. Otherwise BetaMax would have won over VHS.


I do.

This is because you are insecure and have a small penis.


You are a fat and spotty hardcore gamer, and you do not represent the
rest of the world - the majority.


Such a person would have to claim that state of the art mobile
technology is "old technology" because the focus is on making
it small and efficient rather than big and powerful.

As usual, you are trying to confuse the issue. NO ONE ever said that
small things are not technologically advanced. You are just making BS
excuses and coming with a non-issue to act as if you have a vlaid claim.
Everyone know that mobile phones get better and use more advanced
technology all of the time.

I notice that you cannot counter my argument, but instead resort to
simply claiming that I am wrong without explaining further. As always,
you lose miserably

No. It was a non-issue.


No, it's a huge issue because you fail to see how mobile phones are
state of the art, even though the focus is not on making them the most
power hungry beasts possible.

You have been owned again, Microsoftie


What I want to know GUEST is why you don't bash the xbox360 when PC
graphics clearly 'own' them (and everything else for that matter)?