TV License vs Broadband Internet Only

Heracles Pollux wrote:
With regards to not paying for the BBC, rather than shame, that
offence is a badge of honour.

To be classed a "criminal" for refusing to fund the BBC is the same
as being classed a "criminal" by the Nazis for supporting the French
Resistance

Yes, I can see now how those are exactly equivalent moral actions. And there
was I thinking you were just some pathetic, posturing, criminal scumbag! In
reality, you have placed your life on the line for the greater good of
mankind. You have saved yourself hundreds of pounds so that we may be free!

I shall make immediate representations to the Pope so that your canonisation
can be fast-tracked in the event of your demise.

Mike Henry wrote:
In . com, "TimB"
wrote:

Simple: If you watch TV, you need a license. If you don't, you don't.
How do we manage such lengthy threads on this topic?

I don't know, but I am continually astonished that people don't know how
to spell the English word "licence" :-(. Perhaps it's because of
agreeing to lots of American licences every time you install software,
that they are so bombarded with the American spelling that they think
it's correct English?

pendantry

"Remember that licence is the noun and license is the verb. In American
English, however, the noun is spelled license. To remember the
spellings, think of advice (noun) and advise (verb)."

© From the Hutchinson Encyclopaedia.
Helicon Publishing LTD 2007.

Practice/Practise ... same thing ...

--
Adrian C

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:01:51 +0000, Adrian C
wrote:

Mike Henry wrote:
In . com, "TimB"
wrote:

Simple: If you watch TV, you need a license. If you don't, you don't.
How do we manage such lengthy threads on this topic?

I don't know, but I am continually astonished that people don't know how
to spell the English word "licence" :-(. Perhaps it's because of
agreeing to lots of American licences every time you install software,
that they are so bombarded with the American spelling that they think
it's correct English?

pendantry

"Remember that licence is the noun and license is the verb. In American
English, however, the noun is spelled license. To remember the
spellings, think of advice (noun) and advise (verb)."


I have never understood that advice.

If you can remember it for advice/advise, then you will also remember
it for licence/license surely?
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Alex Heney wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:01:51 +0000, Adrian C wrote:

"Remember that licence is the noun and license is the verb. In American
English, however, the noun is spelled license. To remember the
spellings, think of advice (noun) and advise (verb)."

I have never understood that advice.

If you can remember it for advice/advise, then you will also remember
it for licence/license surely?

I'd not come across it before, but it does make sense because the
different pronunciation of "advice" and "advise" gives the clue to the
spelling.

--
Dave Farrance

Dave Farrance wrote:
Alex Heney wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:01:51 +0000, Adrian C wrote:

"Remember that licence is the noun and license is the verb. In American
English, however, the noun is spelled license. To remember the
spellings, think of advice (noun) and advise (verb)."
I have never understood that advice.

If you can remember it for advice/advise, then you will also remember
it for licence/license surely?

I'd not come across it before, but it does make sense because the
different pronunciation of "advice" and "advise" gives the clue to the
spelling.

Yes, I'd go with that. Hutchinson could have worded their explanation a
bit clearer - but then they would (as a reference) have to explain the
phonetic pronunciation to non-english speakers, and that would make the
entry twice as long, and not get anywhere ;-)

inglish iz wii'd...

--
Adrian Cee

In article , Adrian C wrote:
Yes, I'd go with that. Hutchinson could have worded their explanation a
bit clearer - but then they would (as a reference) have to explain the
phonetic pronunciation to non-english speakers, and that would make the
entry twice as long, and not get anywhere ;-)

In other words, you'd have to referense it. :-)

Rod.

Alex Heney wrote:
On 10 Jan 2007 09:47:20 -0800, "TimB" wrote:


Rob wrote:
TimB wrote:
|| Jeff Lawrence wrote:
||| andwan wrote:
|||| if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
|||| modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
|||| license?
|||
||| That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
||| Cheers
||| Jeff
||
|| No, it depends on whether he watches TV. Why this question keeps
|| coming up is beyond me.
||
|| Simple: If you watch TV, you need a license. If you don't, you don't.
|| How do we manage such lengthy threads on this topic?

Probably because a lot of people post simplistic and incorrect replies such
as yours.

I'm intrigued. Please, why do you believe that my response is
incorrect?

Technically (and pedantically), "watch" is the wrong word.

You need a licence if you *Use* the TV to receive TV programme
services.

You still need one even if you are blind (although it is free then),
or if you have the picture dimmed right down so that you can only hear
it.


Pedantically indeed :-)

I maintain my stance that "my definition pretty much covers it for the
average person."

TimB wrote:
|| Rob wrote:
||| TimB wrote:
||||| Jeff Lawrence wrote:
|||||| andwan wrote:
||||||| if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
||||||| modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy
||||||| a TV license?
||||||
|||||| That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the
|||||| BBC. Cheers
|||||| Jeff
|||||
||||| No, it depends on whether he watches TV. Why this question keeps
||||| coming up is beyond me.
|||||
||||| Simple: If you watch TV, you need a license. If you don't, you
||||| don't. How do we manage such lengthy threads on this topic?
|||
||| Probably because a lot of people post simplistic and incorrect
||| replies such as yours.
||
|| I'm intrigued. Please, why do you believe that my response is
|| incorrect? Simplistic it certainly is, but then it's not exactly a
|| complicated bit of legislation. Granted, there are a few extremes
|| (such as 'installing' equipment) that are outside the scope of my
|| definition, but I think my definition pretty much covers it for the
|| average person.

It was incorrect *because* it was simplistic. There are a multitude of
possibilities where a person can watch TV without requiring a licence, and
usually an equally large number of people eager to jump in to point those
out, which as I said is why these threads get so long. My response was
mainly to make that point rather than to attack you personally, perhaps a
smilie would have helped. :-)

--
Rob

Heracles Pollux wrote:

"Stewart Smith" wrote in message
...
andwan wrote:
if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable modem,
but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV license?


I think you only need it if you watch live TV via the internet, such as
live football which is also being simultaneously transmitted to the UK. I
seem to remember the TVLA making a big deal about that during the world
cup.

Stewart



Of course they would.

Of course they will say "they take xxxxx very seriously" too. ;-)

The fact is the BBC TVL have no means to prove to the courts what someone
may do within software or within TCP/IP protocols.

They do not have a means to see what people do in their houses and offices
other than to 1. ask for a confession (which works on women mainly), 2, walk
up to a window (which is illegal if you forbid them from trespassing on
private land), or 3, falsifying statements (which is common practice and
endorsed by their beaurocracy but tricky if they do not know one's name).

If you really knew as much about the law as you think you do, you'd
know, firstly that trespass is a civil and not a criminal offence, that
you do not have the power as a private citizen to 'forbid' anything and
must obtain an injunction from the court to do so, and last, and most
importantly, how to spell bureaucracy! Still, I am comforted by your
ignorant smartarsery, since it suggests that it can't be much longer
before you trip over your own ego and get caught!

If you really knew as much about the law as you think you do, you'd
know, firstly that trespass is a civil and not a criminal offence, that
you do not have the power as a private citizen to 'forbid' anything and
must obtain an injunction from the court to do so, and last, and most
importantly, how to spell bureaucracy!


Never implied that trespass wasn't a civil offence.

You are clearly ill-informed of British case and statutory law and tort.

I can spell bureaucracy: It's spelt [b][b][C].