SKY rip us all off! King Kong pin protected (proper post)

Zero Tolerance wrote:

King Kong is rated 12. 12-rated movies can't be shown on British TV
before 8pm unless they are protected with a PIN. Ofcom rules.

It is quite extraordinary that the UK government devotes so much
energy to PIN-protecting morals, and employing British police officers
to check on what sort of rude pictures UK nationals may be downloading
from other countries (or indeed who they may be bonking in other
countries), but does nothing at all about savage breeds of dog that
regularly maul neighbourhood children to death.

And yet of these menaces the latter would be the easiest and cheapest
to abolish. (ie at zero cost and "at a stroke", by simply outlawing
all such breeds.)

New Year Resolution time for the government, perhaps?

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"Zero Tolerance" wrote in message
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On 1 Jan 2007 11:45:08 -0800, wrote:

So after all this time King Kong comes to sky movies two. And they
decide to show it on multiscreen. So we flick onto it at seven, and are
gretted with a screen...

Please enter PIN.

Now come on... this isnt a porn movie! Its a normal film shown at its
appropriate time! And...

King Kong is rated 12. 12-rated movies can't be shown on British TV
before 8pm unless they are protected with a PIN. Ofcom rules.

Utter ********. If you have a DVB-S card in your PC, and record an '18'
rated film from, say, Zone Horror, the PC software won't ask for a PIN
number when you try and watch it at 3pm. Or do the Ofcom rules only apply to
Sky boxes?

"Gaz" wrote in message
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wrote:
So after all this time King Kong comes to sky movies two. And they
decide to show it on multiscreen. So we flick onto it at seven, and are
gretted with a screen...

Please enter PIN.

Now come on... this isnt a porn movie! Its a normal film shown at its
appropriate time! And...

We have never used a ****ing PIN

We have no use for a ****ing PIN

We do not want a ****ing PIN

We, having paid over the odds for SKY movies should NOT have to be
phoning Sky at 7 o clock on a New Years Day to try and find out what
this PIN is...

Apparently, the PIN is for people who watch boxoffice and x-rated
movies... Sorry Sky, but King Kong is not a porno (that is King Dong),
and this behaviour is totally unacceptable.

Trying to phone up to sort this out, and oh, its engaged. What a
suprise half of the UK has the same problem and are all tryin to phone
the same 1 operator....

Ive totally lost my confidence in Sky after this.....

(PS. At least there is Taylor vs Barneveld to watch to contain our
anger at missing one of the top billed films of the xmas holidays)

It is also a useful mechanism to prevent competitor pvrs from setting
automatic recordings.

Gaz

I found the answer to all Sky problems, Pins, missing this and that. I
Unsubscribed and use Free View. Now I can afford a holiday in the sun.
Joe

Edster wrote:

"The Wizard" wrote in message


"Edster" wrote in message
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Paul Heslop wrote in message

Yeah, but we should have the option for all customers if they wish to
disable it then they should be able to do so, a bit like the old red
dot. As has been pointed out before some people don't have little kids
around so having to input a pin number is tediously unnecessary.

Is the option to remove the red "dot" (if only it was still just a
dot) for Sky+ or HD users only? I'm still plagued with the thing. You
can set it to time out after about 30 seconds, but you can't stop it
from coming back on as often as the broadcaster wants it to. Hogfather
was wrecked for me by constant reminders to watch the beginning again
every few minutes.

All I did was record it, Then started playback 50 minutes after it started
so I could record it to DVD without the ****e onscreen.
No red dots but now we have the "Also available in HD" to contend with (like
we care!)

Didn't someone in here a while ago say that it was illegal for Sky to
advertise things during programmes? I think that was the rationale for
the constant on screen pizza adverts during the Simpsons being a
"mistake".

Remember when the kids programs used to have to black out all the
product names on the boxes and bottles they used to build things? I
assume that rule still counts for sky too, but they will
'accidentally' bend it.

They'll also probably say that their red dots etc are not advertising
but advisory. If they gave us the choice to switch them off I'd
believe them.


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On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 05:52:37 GMT, Paul Heslop
wrote:

It does seem sometimes like they really do just want to make using
other equipment as hard as possible.

If they included the ability to turn the PIN request off, then they
wouldn't be sticking to the Ofcom rules any more (which say that you
MUST enter a PIN, every time) so they just wouldn't be able to
broadcast those programmes at all.

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On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 08:30:55 +0100, Jomtien wrote:

It is quite extraordinary that the UK government devotes so much
energy to PIN-protecting morals, and employing British police officers
to check on what sort of rude pictures UK nationals may be downloading
from other countries (or indeed who they may be bonking in other
countries), but does nothing at all about savage breeds of dog that
regularly maul neighbourhood children to death.

And yet of these menaces the latter would be the easiest and cheapest
to abolish. (ie at zero cost and "at a stroke", by simply outlawing
all such breeds.)

Yes yes yes, however those breeds have been outlawed since 1989.
That doesn't stop people from breaking that law and keeping such
dangerous dogs because it makes them feel hard.

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On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 16:15:53 GMT, "Brian W"
wrote:

Utter ********. If you have a DVB-S card in your PC, and record an '18'
rated film from, say, Zone Horror, the PC software won't ask for a PIN
number when you try and watch it at 3pm. Or do the Ofcom rules only apply to
Sky boxes?

Zone Horror is an FTA channel and would not be permitted to broadcast
an '18' rated film any earlier than 10pm, after which time no PIN
number would be required anyway.
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Zero Tolerance wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 05:52:37 GMT, Paul Heslop
wrote:

It does seem sometimes like they really do just want to make using
other equipment as hard as possible.

If they included the ability to turn the PIN request off, then they
wouldn't be sticking to the Ofcom rules any more (which say that you
MUST enter a PIN, every time) so they just wouldn't be able to
broadcast those programmes at all.

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Not that I use the thing often anyway, but I am more concerned with
the red dot's lack off offiness than the pin.

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Mike Henry wrote:


Nowhere does it say that the PIN "must be entered every time",

And this, like the red dot, is where it gets really annoying. You
enter the code, then you think, oh, I'll just check how long it is, so
you pull up the epg, take a gander, close down the epg and you have to
enter the bloody code again!

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Edster wrote:

Paul Heslop wrote in message

Edster wrote:

"The Wizard" wrote in message


"Edster" wrote in message
...
Paul Heslop wrote in message

Yeah, but we should have the option for all customers if they wish to
disable it then they should be able to do so, a bit like the old red
dot. As has been pointed out before some people don't have little kids
around so having to input a pin number is tediously unnecessary.

Is the option to remove the red "dot" (if only it was still just a
dot) for Sky+ or HD users only? I'm still plagued with the thing. You
can set it to time out after about 30 seconds, but you can't stop it
from coming back on as often as the broadcaster wants it to. Hogfather
was wrecked for me by constant reminders to watch the beginning again
every few minutes.

All I did was record it, Then started playback 50 minutes after it started
so I could record it to DVD without the ****e onscreen.
No red dots but now we have the "Also available in HD" to contend with (like
we care!)

Didn't someone in here a while ago say that it was illegal for Sky to
advertise things during programmes? I think that was the rationale for
the constant on screen pizza adverts during the Simpsons being a
"mistake".

Remember when the kids programs used to have to black out all the
product names on the boxes and bottles they used to build things? I
assume that rule still counts for sky too, but they will
'accidentally' bend it.

They'll also probably say that their red dots etc are not advertising
but advisory. If they gave us the choice to switch them off I'd
believe them.

I was thinking more of the adverts for their HD equipment over the top
of every programme just after the ad break.

Yeah, but they'll not class them as adverts. Whether offcom would is
another matter but as they get away with murder anyway I doubt it.
THAT Simpsons episode... the most blatant use of a program as an
advertisement feature has not resulted in them being given a real
slap-down if even a ticking off.
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