Wii TV

With all of this talk from Nintendo and their people about HD being useless in videogame systems (the ones that have the power to support it), I find it funny that Wii commercials are demonstrated on HDTV's. I think that this gives a false representation of the machines capabilities. The ads are very misleading. It also contradicts Nintendo's hate of HDTV.


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People over at AVS are compiling a list of games and what they support
( Widescreen, 480p, Dolby ProLogic II .... ).

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=753422

And for the gamecube

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=649817

-Eric
http://brontide.blogspot.com

Guest wrote:
I think that this gives a false representation of the machines capabilities.

As long as they don't say it's running in HD resolutions I don't have a
problem with it. The console does support 16:9 and progressive scan so
you might as well show it on a modern TV.

- Jordan

Guest wrote:

With all of this talk from Nintendo and their people about HD being
useless in videogame systems (the ones that have the power to support
it), I find it funny that Wii commercials are demonstrated on HDTV's. I
think that this gives a false representation of the machines
capabilities. The ads are very misleading. It also contradicts
Nintendo's hate of HDTV.


Here we go again with your whining. Do you have a problem with people
playing xbox360 on a standard TV (like most do?) or watching normal TV
through your HDTV, No? I thought not - even though it's completely
misrepresentative. The TV's used in the commercials don't have any
markings on them and are rarely in shot (I've no doubt they probably are
HD though) and as far as I recall you don't actually see the games
running on them in any closeups. So I guess they would only be confusing
to stupid people like yourself.
You just have a problem with Nintendo for some reason. They've never
said they hate HDTV just that it's not nescessary yet. I play wii
through an HDTV and It looks much better than I ever thought it would.

blue wrote:
Guest wrote:

With all of this talk from Nintendo and their people about HD being
useless in videogame systems (the ones that have the power to support
it), I find it funny that Wii commercials are demonstrated on
HDTV's. I think that this gives a false representation of the
machines capabilities. The ads are very misleading. It also
contradicts Nintendo's hate of HDTV.


Here we go again with your whining. Do you have a problem with people
playing xbox360 on a standard TV (like most do?) or watching normal TV
through your HDTV, No?

I am not conerned with that. I doubt that many would anyway.

I thought not - even though it's completely
misrepresentative.

Nope.

The TV's used in the commercials don't have any
markings on them and are rarely in shot (I've no doubt they probably
are HD though) and as far as I recall you don't actually see the games
running on them in any closeups.

You do.

So I guess they would only be
confusing to stupid people like yourself.
You just have a problem with Nintendo for some reason. They've never
said they hate HDTV just that it's not nescessary yet.

The way they spoke of it and you Nintendo cultists speak of it (because you
can't do it), you could almost call it hate or just plain jealousy. If they
said the Wii was to accomdate people with SDTV's (also because it is an
overclocked GC and is not designed to handle HD), they do not feel the need
to deal with HDTV. My point is, the ads are very misleading. If you are
for SDTV's, why promote you old time product on a modern HDTV's? I can only
assume that it is for the purpose of further tricking the average,
uninformed consumer into thinking that the Wii is like the big boys. I
would say that a class-action suit is in order here.

I play wii
through an HDTV and It looks much better than I ever thought it would.

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Jordan wrote:
Guest wrote:
I think that this gives a false representation of the machines
capabilities.

As long as they don't say it's running in HD resolutions I don't have
a problem with it. The console does support 16:9 and progressive scan
so you might as well show it on a modern TV.

Well they are trying to infer that it is HD ready. I told you people.
Nintendo had gone from the best game maker in the world to a common scam
artist to peddle it's games. It's a damned shame.


- Jordan

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Wii fully supports 480p and widescreen format, so it works well on those TV's, even if it doesn't take advantage of their full resolution. They also never said that HD is useless, just that not enough people have one yet in order to make it a true mass market product (which is demonstrably true). Iwata himself said that Nintendo will make a HD console in the future, just not yet. How is that showing hate for HDTV?

"Guest" wrote in message . net...
With all of this talk from Nintendo and their people about HD being useless in videogame systems (the ones that have the power to support it), I find it funny that Wii commercials are demonstrated on HDTV's. I think that this gives a false representation of the machines capabilities. The ads are very misleading. It also contradicts Nintendo's hate of HDTV.


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El Guapo wrote:
Wii fully supports 480p and widescreen format, so it works well on
those TV's, even if it doesn't take advantage of their full
resolution. They also never said that HD is useless, just that not
enough people have one yet in order to make it a true mass market
product (which is demonstrably true).

Nintendo is behind the times on this one. Since they repackaged an overclocked GC, they were not able to offer HD.

Iwata himself said that
Nintendo will make a HD console in the future, just not yet. How is
that showing hate for HDTV?

Well with all of their negative talk about it. They only talk negativly about it because the real systems have it and the BS sytems cannot do it.


"Guest" wrote in message
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With all of this talk from Nintendo and their people about HD being
useless in videogame systems (the ones that have the power to support
it), I find it funny that Wii commercials are demonstrated on HDTV's.
I think that this gives a false representation of the machines
capabilities. The ads are very misleading. It also contradicts
Nintendo's hate of HDTV.

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I think you're confusing widescreen in general for HDTV..... The truth
is a lot of people who own plasma and LCD widescreen sets don't own
"HDTV", that is they don't own sets capable of 1080i/1080p or 720p. The
Nintendo Wii does support widescreen games natively at 480p or as it's
come to be called EDTV (Ehanced Definition) and after recently moving
up from the composite/RCA cables that came with the Wii system to the
Wii component cables, I can tell there is a huge difference in
composite video and component output on HDTV sets for Wii owners, even
if the system doesn't support HD.

So it's not misrepresenting the capabilities of the system.

In fact, I would say HDTV in general is a bit of a misrepresentation in
comparison to EDTV. EDTV at 480p looks extreemly good, I've played
games in HD on a 360, and I was playing games like God of War on the
PS2 in 480p widescreen on my 56" HD set before that.

The jump from composite/RCA video up to component is a big leap in
terms of noticable color depth and resolution. Since most sets have
reasonably good "virtual" HD scaling technology, the truth is the jump
to true HD games is less impressive. So I would say from normal 480i
1:33:1 "NTSC standard" resolution up to widescreen 480p (using
component cables or digital connect) is the big leap, true HD is a
nice, but it's not substantially better than EDTV. That's part
subjective on my part and part fact based not on the standards
themselves, but as I've said based on all the factors combined. The
televisions ability to scale 480p content to HD resolutions ends up
dimming the value of true HD and once your singial is coming through
high bandwidth component cables or something digital like DVI or HDMI,
the actual resolution matters less than the widescreen experience and
the color depth.

Just so you know, all the Nintendo Wii units for the in store displays
for Gamestop that I've been to (four in the area) are connected to
widescreen EDTV LCDs, not HDTV's and they are connected via composite
video, not component. I imagine every retailer that recieved Wii demo
units are using these same monitors. So even if you don't like my
argument about HD vs ED, you're still wrong about Nintendo on this one
and you should have done some research before posting.











Guest wrote:
With all of this talk from Nintendo and their people about HD being useless in videogame systems (the ones that have the power to support it), I find it funny that Wii commercials are demonstrated on HDTV's. I think that this gives a false representation of the machines capabilities. The ads are very misleading. It also contradicts Nintendo's hate of HDTV.


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"RMZ" wrote in message
ps.com...
I think you're confusing widescreen in general for HDTV..... The truth
is a lot of people who own plasma and LCD widescreen sets don't own
"HDTV", that is they don't own sets capable of 1080i/1080p or 720p. The
Nintendo Wii does support widescreen games natively at 480p or as it's
come to be called EDTV (Ehanced Definition) and after recently moving
up from the composite/RCA cables that came with the Wii system to the
Wii component cables, I can tell there is a huge difference in
composite video and component output on HDTV sets for Wii owners, even
if the system doesn't support HD.

So it's not misrepresenting the capabilities of the system.

In fact, I would say HDTV in general is a bit of a misrepresentation in
comparison to EDTV. EDTV at 480p looks extreemly good, I've played
games in HD on a 360, and I was playing games like God of War on the
PS2 in 480p widescreen on my 56" HD set before that.

The jump from composite/RCA video up to component is a big leap in
terms of noticable color depth and resolution. Since most sets have
reasonably good "virtual" HD scaling technology, the truth is the jump
to true HD games is less impressive. So I would say from normal 480i
1:33:1 "NTSC standard" resolution up to widescreen 480p (using
component cables or digital connect) is the big leap, true HD is a
nice, but it's not substantially better than EDTV. That's part
subjective on my part and part fact based not on the standards
themselves, but as I've said based on all the factors combined. The
televisions ability to scale 480p content to HD resolutions ends up
dimming the value of true HD and once your singial is coming through
high bandwidth component cables or something digital like DVI or HDMI,
the actual resolution matters less than the widescreen experience and
the color depth.

Just so you know, all the Nintendo Wii units for the in store displays
for Gamestop that I've been to (four in the area) are connected to
widescreen EDTV LCDs, not HDTV's and they are connected via composite
video, not component. I imagine every retailer that recieved Wii demo
units are using these same monitors. So even if you don't like my
argument about HD vs ED, you're still wrong about Nintendo on this one
and you should have done some research before posting.


egggggggggggggg zacchary, there's nothing at all wrong with 480p widescreen
games...in fact some xbox games (like Doom 3, Ninja Gaiden, and Splinter
Cell: Chaos Theory) still look phenomenal imho. hell, I've even played
through non-widescreen 480p games and thoroughly enjoyed them on my 360/DLP
because:


::drumroll::


it's the gameplay that matters.