Wondereful World of DVD burning

"Richard Harison" wrote in message
...
Thanks CAH (indeed thanks for all those responding)
The Pioneer 111 burner comes with Nero 7.2 (doesn't say express, so I
assume
it's the full version.
This thread started with me needing a DVD for the computer to run mapping
software. Then I thought about burning as well, since the Pio 111 is
quite
reasonably priced. Then the idea of ATI's PVR capability...it all
snowballed
from there. Plus the fact that wifey might not be too thrilled with YET
another
piece of AV equipment to dust!

--

The AIW is a video card with on board capture card and TV tuner so you won't
just be adding a capture card. To me the PVR is the best thing about these
cards, being able to capture is just an extra benefit. MMC comes with a
basic burning utility from Sonic but I've never used it. Some AIW come
bundled with Special Edition name brand editing/authoring software. My
AIW9600XT came with Pinnacle Studio8SE. Some of them have/had Studio9. AFAIK
some of the newer ones come with Adobe software. Check that something like
that is bundled with it. I already had the full version of Studio8 and the
SE version wasn't very limited in comparison.

I don't like the capture/editing in Nero 6. It's not intuitive and the help
files are a joke. Can only hope they improved it in 7.

Thanks for the input, especially about Nero 6. What exactly do Pinnacle Studio
and MMC do?
As I said before, I'm not keen on redundant software. As I see it the functions
needed are
1) capture/write to disk (.avi) 2) edit file 3 burn to DVD (mpeg2)

--
All the Best,
Richard Harison
"T Shadow" wrote in message
...
"Richard Harison" wrote in message
...
Thanks CAH (indeed thanks for all those responding)
The Pioneer 111 burner comes with Nero 7.2 (doesn't say express, so I
assume
it's the full version.
This thread started with me needing a DVD for the computer to run mapping
software. Then I thought about burning as well, since the Pio 111 is
quite
reasonably priced. Then the idea of ATI's PVR capability...it all
snowballed
from there. Plus the fact that wifey might not be too thrilled with YET
another
piece of AV equipment to dust!

--

The AIW is a video card with on board capture card and TV tuner so you won't
just be adding a capture card. To me the PVR is the best thing about these
cards, being able to capture is just an extra benefit. MMC comes with a
basic burning utility from Sonic but I've never used it. Some AIW come
bundled with Special Edition name brand editing/authoring software. My
AIW9600XT came with Pinnacle Studio8SE. Some of them have/had Studio9. AFAIK
some of the newer ones come with Adobe software. Check that something like
that is bundled with it. I already had the full version of Studio8 and the
SE version wasn't very limited in comparison.

I don't like the capture/editing in Nero 6. It's not intuitive and the help
files are a joke. Can only hope they improved it in 7.





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"Richard Harison" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the input, especially about Nero 6. What exactly do Pinnacle
Studio
and MMC do?
As I said before, I'm not keen on redundant software. As I see it the
functions
needed are
1) capture/write to disk (.avi) 2) edit file 3 burn to DVD (mpeg2)

--
All the Best,
Richard Harison
"T Shadow" wrote in message
...
"Richard Harison" wrote in message
...
Thanks CAH (indeed thanks for all those responding)
The Pioneer 111 burner comes with Nero 7.2 (doesn't say express, so I
assume
it's the full version.
This thread started with me needing a DVD for the computer to run
mapping
software. Then I thought about burning as well, since the Pio 111 is
quite
reasonably priced. Then the idea of ATI's PVR capability...it all
snowballed
from there. Plus the fact that wifey might not be too thrilled with
YET
another
piece of AV equipment to dust!

--

The AIW is a video card with on board capture card and TV tuner so you
won't
just be adding a capture card. To me the PVR is the best thing about
these
cards, being able to capture is just an extra benefit. MMC comes with a
basic burning utility from Sonic but I've never used it. Some AIW come
bundled with Special Edition name brand editing/authoring software. My
AIW9600XT came with Pinnacle Studio8SE. Some of them have/had Studio9.
AFAIK
some of the newer ones come with Adobe software. Check that something
like
that is bundled with it. I already had the full version of Studio8 and
the
SE version wasn't very limited in comparison.

I don't like the capture/editing in Nero 6. It's not intuitive and the
help
files are a joke. Can only hope they improved it in 7.



This explains MMC
http://ati.amd.com/products/multimediacenter/index.html

Studio can capture video, edit files, author discs and then burn them. The
TV program in MMC is the best I've seen for capture but you really need
something like Studio to get it to disc. If you already have Nero7 couldn't
hurt to try it. digitalfaq.com is the best resource I've seen for
information on this topic.

One of the DVDR newsgroups would better suit the topic. A lot of people in
these groups think you should use a separate program for each step. Maybe
their right but haven't seen the need. ATI multimedia cards are discussed in
alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati.

Thanks...I'll check into it!

--
All the Best,
Richard Harison
"T Shadow" wrote in message
...
"Richard Harison" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the input, especially about Nero 6. What exactly do Pinnacle
Studio
and MMC do?
As I said before, I'm not keen on redundant software. As I see it the
functions
needed are
1) capture/write to disk (.avi) 2) edit file 3 burn to DVD (mpeg2)

--
All the Best,
Richard Harison
"T Shadow" wrote in message
...
"Richard Harison" wrote in message
...
Thanks CAH (indeed thanks for all those responding)
The Pioneer 111 burner comes with Nero 7.2 (doesn't say express, so I
assume
it's the full version.
This thread started with me needing a DVD for the computer to run
mapping
software. Then I thought about burning as well, since the Pio 111 is
quite
reasonably priced. Then the idea of ATI's PVR capability...it all
snowballed
from there. Plus the fact that wifey might not be too thrilled with
YET
another
piece of AV equipment to dust!

--

The AIW is a video card with on board capture card and TV tuner so you
won't
just be adding a capture card. To me the PVR is the best thing about
these
cards, being able to capture is just an extra benefit. MMC comes with a
basic burning utility from Sonic but I've never used it. Some AIW come
bundled with Special Edition name brand editing/authoring software. My
AIW9600XT came with Pinnacle Studio8SE. Some of them have/had Studio9.
AFAIK
some of the newer ones come with Adobe software. Check that something
like
that is bundled with it. I already had the full version of Studio8 and
the
SE version wasn't very limited in comparison.

I don't like the capture/editing in Nero 6. It's not intuitive and the
help
files are a joke. Can only hope they improved it in 7.



This explains MMC
http://ati.amd.com/products/multimediacenter/index.html

Studio can capture video, edit files, author discs and then burn them. The
TV program in MMC is the best I've seen for capture but you really need
something like Studio to get it to disc. If you already have Nero7 couldn't
hurt to try it. digitalfaq.com is the best resource I've seen for
information on this topic.

One of the DVDR newsgroups would better suit the topic. A lot of people in
these groups think you should use a separate program for each step. Maybe
their right but haven't seen the need. ATI multimedia cards are discussed in
alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati.





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Hi T shadow,
again please excuse my newbie ignorance, but what does the authoring stage do?
Can't you just capture, edit, and then burn?

--
All the Best,
Richard Harison
"T Shadow" wrote in message
...
"Richard Harison" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the input, especially about Nero 6. What exactly do Pinnacle
Studio
and MMC do?
As I said before, I'm not keen on redundant software. As I see it the
functions
needed are
1) capture/write to disk (.avi) 2) edit file 3 burn to DVD (mpeg2)

--
All the Best,
Richard Harison
"T Shadow" wrote in message
...
"Richard Harison" wrote in message
...
Thanks CAH (indeed thanks for all those responding)
The Pioneer 111 burner comes with Nero 7.2 (doesn't say express, so I
assume
it's the full version.
This thread started with me needing a DVD for the computer to run
mapping
software. Then I thought about burning as well, since the Pio 111 is
quite
reasonably priced. Then the idea of ATI's PVR capability...it all
snowballed
from there. Plus the fact that wifey might not be too thrilled with
YET
another
piece of AV equipment to dust!

--

The AIW is a video card with on board capture card and TV tuner so you
won't
just be adding a capture card. To me the PVR is the best thing about
these
cards, being able to capture is just an extra benefit. MMC comes with a
basic burning utility from Sonic but I've never used it. Some AIW come
bundled with Special Edition name brand editing/authoring software. My
AIW9600XT came with Pinnacle Studio8SE. Some of them have/had Studio9.
AFAIK
some of the newer ones come with Adobe software. Check that something
like
that is bundled with it. I already had the full version of Studio8 and
the
SE version wasn't very limited in comparison.

I don't like the capture/editing in Nero 6. It's not intuitive and the
help
files are a joke. Can only hope they improved it in 7.



This explains MMC
http://ati.amd.com/products/multimediacenter/index.html

Studio can capture video, edit files, author discs and then burn them. The
TV program in MMC is the best I've seen for capture but you really need
something like Studio to get it to disc. If you already have Nero7 couldn't
hurt to try it. digitalfaq.com is the best resource I've seen for
information on this topic.

One of the DVDR newsgroups would better suit the topic. A lot of people in
these groups think you should use a separate program for each step. Maybe
their right but haven't seen the need. ATI multimedia cards are discussed in
alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati.





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Richard Harison wrote:
Hi T shadow,
again please excuse my newbie ignorance, but what does the authoring stage do?
Can't you just capture, edit, and then burn?

Authoring refers to the step of actually designing the DVD look and
feel. Editing the source material is only part of the process. Once
your video tracks are finalized then you are ready to import them into
the DVD authoring application to begin the DVD design process. DVDs
have many capabilities. They can have elaborate cascading menu systems,
motion menus, chapters, sub-titles, multi-formats, DVD-ROM content,
etc. Authoring is designing the "look" or your DVD and deciding what
features you will build-in. When you are all finished with the
authoring stage the only remaining step is to actually burn your
finished project to a DVD-recordable disc.

It is true that many simple video editing suites also have the ability
to burn a DVD. Most provide a basic ability to edit, create a simple
menu, and burn the disc. For most users this is probably enough.
However, if you want total control of the final DVD you will probably
want a program designed for DVD authoring... like Adobe Encore DVD
(there are others).

Richard Harison wrote:
Hi T shadow,
again please excuse my newbie ignorance, but what does the authoring stage do?
Can't you just capture, edit, and then burn?

Authoring refers to the step of actually designing the DVD look and
feel. Editing the source material is only part of the process. Once
your video tracks are finalized then you are ready to import them into
the DVD authoring application to begin the DVD design process. DVDs
have many capabilities. They can have elaborate cascading menu systems,
motion menus, chapters, sub-titles, multi-formats, DVD-ROM content,
etc. Authoring is designing the "look" or your DVD and deciding what
features you will build-in. When you are all finished with the
authoring stage the only remaining step is to actually burn your
finished project to a DVD-recordable disc.

It is true that many simple video editing suites also have the ability
to burn a DVD. Most provide a basic ability to edit, create a simple
menu, and burn the disc. For most users this is probably enough.
However, if you want total control of the final DVD you will probably
want a program designed for DVD authoring... like Adobe Encore DVD
(there are others).

Thank you...
I think I fit into the former category---just take something, edit it, maybe
chapters/maybe not, then burn, baby, burn!

--
All the Best,
Richard Harison
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Richard Harison wrote:
Hi T shadow,
again please excuse my newbie ignorance, but what does the authoring stage
do?
Can't you just capture, edit, and then burn?

Authoring refers to the step of actually designing the DVD look and
feel. Editing the source material is only part of the process. Once
your video tracks are finalized then you are ready to import them into
the DVD authoring application to begin the DVD design process. DVDs
have many capabilities. They can have elaborate cascading menu systems,
motion menus, chapters, sub-titles, multi-formats, DVD-ROM content,
etc. Authoring is designing the "look" or your DVD and deciding what
features you will build-in. When you are all finished with the
authoring stage the only remaining step is to actually burn your
finished project to a DVD-recordable disc.

It is true that many simple video editing suites also have the ability
to burn a DVD. Most provide a basic ability to edit, create a simple
menu, and burn the disc. For most users this is probably enough.
However, if you want total control of the final DVD you will probably
want a program designed for DVD authoring... like Adobe Encore DVD
(there are others).




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Wes Newell wrote:
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:34:44 -0500, Richard Harison wrote:

Hope I'm not OT here. Long story made short: I wanted to purchase GPS
mapping software, but the files are so large that it requires a DVD
reader in my computer. So I say to myself, *why not get a DVD
reader/burner and then you could burn some of those precious old VCR
tapes. That's when I became overwhelmed. Getting the burner is no
problem...looking at a Pioneer 111. What I can't fathom is how to hook
up my VCR to the computer, what software does what, etc. I know I have
to get a video capture card, and ATI all-in-wonders seem to be nice. I
also know many folks in this NG use their computers as tuners. That's
not a need for me. What I humbly request is the simplest way to:
a) hook up my VCR (has composite + analog L/R audio) output to the
capture card. (photos I've seen of them don't seem to have audio
inputs--just DVI, s-video and composite)
b) be able to record material from same to my hard drive---also being
able to EDIT during the burn if possible
c) actually burn the DVD
I know the burner comes with Nero, but being a newbie at all this, I
don't know if it can figure out what my capture card is doing, or if
there is intermediate software required as well.
Please, is there a simple answer?

You'd need to hook up the RF out of the VCR to the RF in on the NTSC tuner
card. Set the tuner to the same channel as the vcr, usually 3 or 4, start
the VCR playing and start recoridng on the PC. Once recorded, you can do
with it whatever. Sorry, I don't waste my time burning to dvd.

A heck of a lot easier. Buy a cheap ($79) DVD recorder. Hook the rf out of
the vcr to the rf in on the dvd recorder. record it straight to dvd, done.


I agree, but I'd wouldn't buy one of the cheap ones, I went through a
couple (lots of disk failures, poor image quality) before I paid a
little more for the Panasonic. Now all I have to do is plug the Comp
Out from the camcorder to the Comp In of the recorder and press record
and I get very good DVDs. Unless one really wants all the editing
capabilities and is willing to spend a lot more money and spend half
your life screwing around trying to make it all work, a stand along DVD
recorder is a much easier solution.

I use an old ATI All in Wonder Radeon 7500 to capture composite video
in DVD 720 x 480 MPEG-2 format using the ATI MMC software.
Then I use TMPGEnc DVD Author to edit the video and author the DVD.
Finally I use Nero to burn the DVD.

This is exactly what I do with an ATI Radeon 9000 card. Except I burn
right from the TMPGEnc DVD software. Why do you use Nero?

-Jim