I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((

"zalek" wrote in message
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David Moran wrote:
[...]

As I've said all along. If you don't want to pay the price, don't get
cable.
That's essentially saying "I want cable, but I don't want to pay the
price,
though I pay it anyway". I have cable because I want it and I can afford
it;
I don't NEED it. If I woke up tomorrow and found out I had a sudden drop
in
income, cable would be the first to go. That's a good $90 back in my
pocket
each month. Yes, I said $90; I have digital cable, the premium channels,
and
the DVR. My internet and phone would be the last to go because I use them
for work and other things that I need to do. I could always use the
internet
from school, but it is MUCH more convenient to have internet here at
home.

Dave

Dave,

I appreciate your crappy work of defending cable companies, they
don't deserve more.
I don't give a damm about a cable or satelite - I want TV channels
I like. As I explained - in NYC I have no choice - the only
supplier of TV channels like CNN or Discovery is Time Warner - and
Time Warner charges me on top of service I pay - $10/month for each TV.
Time Warner even does not allow me to buy a cable box from other
sources. I want this admition in writing and to send it to FCC and
politicians that suppose to represent NY consumers. I think that as a
consumer I have a right to fight this irp-off - I am sure that after
work hours - you will agree me.

Zalek


If I could, I'd buy a box myself. Since I can't, complaining won't help and
I've never had a problem paying the rental fee for a box.

Dave

"zalek" wrote in message
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Joe Collins wrote:
zalek wrote:

Well Mr. Genius, I want to convince a corporation to send me the same
signal it is sending me to 2 other cables boxes I own. I want to buy a
cable box from other, cheaper source. As a consumer - I think I have
a right to do it. Do you think otherwise?

I agree with you. I bought a vacuum that "fell off the truck" for a
real good price. Much less than I would have paid at Sears. Only
problem was the vacuum didn't work. I had the damnded time trying to
return it to Sears.

I also had a similar problem at Yankees Stadium. The tickets are so
expensive. So I bought a new set of crayons and printed one up for
myself. Would you believe they did not let me into the game? The
nerve. The utter nerve.

You are trying to be more religious than a Pope. Time Warner told me
that the reason they don't want to send me a signal is not because the
box I bought is stolen or dameged - the reason is because I DIDN'T BUY
IT FROM THEM.
Now do you understand?

Zalek


We understand that, but they can decide whether or not to authorize a box or
not. I don't work for the cable company, but I am a professional
mathematician. Let's look at it this way. Let's say I own a cable company in
a market of a million people. Not every one is going to need a box; only
those who have digital cable or possibly the ones who have an older TV. The
chances of the latter are low so forget about those people. Let's say
500,000 people have cable through my cable company. Let's also say 20% of
those have digital cable. Those people need a box. If I charge the fee my
current cable company charges ($9.95 a month), I'll make
100000*9.95=$9,950,000 a month JUST OFF BOXES! Yeah, it's mostly about money
and I agree it sucks, but that's the way it works. Just pay the fee or don't
get cable; plain and simple.

Dave

I'll make
100000*9.95=$995,000

OOPS, sorry about that

In article . com, "zalek" wrote:

Ed wrote:
[...]

The OP wants to whine because TWC won't activate his illegally gotten
box. He'd actually have something valid to say if he were angry at the
individual who sold it to him. It was obviously misrepresented by the
seller. Hell, I'd be turning the seller in to the cops just for ****ing
me off, never mind the money I was out. If someone sold you a car and
you found out after the fact that the title was forged and the car was
stolen, don't you think you'd be telling the cops about it instead of
getting ****ed because "your car" had been towed, processed and returned
to the owner?

Clarification - I purchased this box LEGALLY. There is no law (yet...)
that forbids selling or buyiny cable boxes.

If the box originally was provided to the person you bought it from with the
condition that he return the box when he discontinued service, then the box
still belongs to the cable company and is THEIR property, it was not his to
sell. So yes you may have stolen property.


If this box is stolen, the
owner should complain. Meantime, Time Warner have all information about
this box and is not complaining that box is stolen, Time Warner is
complaining that I don't want to buy exactly the same box for a price
of $10/month.

Zalek

Well Mr. Genius, I want to convince a corporation to send me the same
signal it is sending me to 2 other cables boxes I own. I want to buy a
cable box from other, cheaper source. As a consumer - I think I have
a right to do it. Do you think otherwise?

He might have the right to use another cable box (but one certified
to comply with standards, and not give away free service). This
doesn't mean the cable company can't charge him for having another
box, it just means they don't charge him for the box. And it's not
stealing service.

Did you know that (most) people actually buy their own phones instead
of renting them from the phone company?


I agree with you. I bought a vacuum that "fell off the truck" for a
real good price. Much less than I would have paid at Sears. Only
problem was the vacuum didn't work. I had the damnded time trying to
return it to Sears.

However, I DO have a right to run a vacuum cleaner on electricity
not purchased from the manufacturer of the vacuum cleaner. And I
DO have a right to pick up dirt not purchased from the manufacturer
of the vacuum cleaner.

I also had a similar problem at Yankees Stadium. The tickets are so
expensive. So I bought a new set of crayons and printed one up for
myself. Would you believe they did not let me into the game? The
nerve. The utter nerve.

But you DO have the right to wear clothes not manufactured by the Stadium
owners into the game.

On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 14:59:07 -0600, "David Moran"
wrote:


"zalek" wrote in message
roups.com...

David Moran wrote:
[...]

As I've said all along. If you don't want to pay the price, don't get
cable.
That's essentially saying "I want cable, but I don't want to pay the
price,
though I pay it anyway". I have cable because I want it and I can afford
it;
I don't NEED it. If I woke up tomorrow and found out I had a sudden drop
in
income, cable would be the first to go. That's a good $90 back in my
pocket
each month. Yes, I said $90; I have digital cable, the premium channels,
and
the DVR. My internet and phone would be the last to go because I use them
for work and other things that I need to do. I could always use the
internet
from school, but it is MUCH more convenient to have internet here at
home.

Dave

Dave,

I appreciate your crappy work of defending cable companies, they
don't deserve more.
I don't give a damm about a cable or satelite - I want TV channels
I like. As I explained - in NYC I have no choice - the only
supplier of TV channels like CNN or Discovery is Time Warner - and
Time Warner charges me on top of service I pay - $10/month for each TV.
Time Warner even does not allow me to buy a cable box from other
sources. I want this admition in writing and to send it to FCC and
politicians that suppose to represent NY consumers. I think that as a
consumer I have a right to fight this irp-off - I am sure that after
work hours - you will agree me.

Zalek


If I could, I'd buy a box myself. Since I can't, complaining won't help and
I've never had a problem paying the rental fee for a box.

Dave


Dave,

You are perfect consumer - company does not allow you to buy a product
from a competition, charges you rip-off prices and you never have
problems. I would love to sell you something. What you are shopping
for? Let my be your personal product supplier.

Zalek

"Zalek Bloom" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 14:59:07 -0600, "David Moran"
wrote:


"zalek" wrote in message
groups.com...

David Moran wrote:
[...]

As I've said all along. If you don't want to pay the price, don't get
cable.
That's essentially saying "I want cable, but I don't want to pay the
price,
though I pay it anyway". I have cable because I want it and I can
afford
it;
I don't NEED it. If I woke up tomorrow and found out I had a sudden
drop
in
income, cable would be the first to go. That's a good $90 back in my
pocket
each month. Yes, I said $90; I have digital cable, the premium
channels,
and
the DVR. My internet and phone would be the last to go because I use
them
for work and other things that I need to do. I could always use the
internet
from school, but it is MUCH more convenient to have internet here at
home.

Dave

Dave,

I appreciate your crappy work of defending cable companies, they
don't deserve more.
I don't give a damm about a cable or satelite - I want TV channels
I like. As I explained - in NYC I have no choice - the only
supplier of TV channels like CNN or Discovery is Time Warner - and
Time Warner charges me on top of service I pay - $10/month for each TV.
Time Warner even does not allow me to buy a cable box from other
sources. I want this admition in writing and to send it to FCC and
politicians that suppose to represent NY consumers. I think that as a
consumer I have a right to fight this irp-off - I am sure that after
work hours - you will agree me.

Zalek


If I could, I'd buy a box myself. Since I can't, complaining won't help
and
I've never had a problem paying the rental fee for a box.

Dave


Dave,

You are perfect consumer - company does not allow you to buy a product
from a competition, charges you rip-off prices and you never have
problems. I would love to sell you something. What you are shopping
for? Let my be your personal product supplier.

Zalek

You don't get it. I only have one cable company here. If I want cable here,
I only have one choice for a company. If I want digital cable, I need a box.
If I want basic cable, I don't need a box. Besides, I'm sure if they didn't
get their $10 for a box, they'd get it somewhere else. Why is that so hard
for you to understand?

Dave

On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:13:27 -0600, "David Moran"
wrote:


"zalek" wrote in message
oups.com...

Joe Collins wrote:
zalek wrote:

Well Mr. Genius, I want to convince a corporation to send me the same
signal it is sending me to 2 other cables boxes I own. I want to buy a
cable box from other, cheaper source. As a consumer - I think I have
a right to do it. Do you think otherwise?

I agree with you. I bought a vacuum that "fell off the truck" for a
real good price. Much less than I would have paid at Sears. Only
problem was the vacuum didn't work. I had the damnded time trying to
return it to Sears.

I also had a similar problem at Yankees Stadium. The tickets are so
expensive. So I bought a new set of crayons and printed one up for
myself. Would you believe they did not let me into the game? The
nerve. The utter nerve.

You are trying to be more religious than a Pope. Time Warner told me
that the reason they don't want to send me a signal is not because the
box I bought is stolen or dameged - the reason is because I DIDN'T BUY
IT FROM THEM.
Now do you understand?

Zalek


We understand that, but they can decide whether or not to authorize a box or
not. I don't work for the cable company, but I am a professional
mathematician. Let's look at it this way. Let's say I own a cable company in
a market of a million people. Not every one is going to need a box; only
those who have digital cable or possibly the ones who have an older TV. The
chances of the latter are low so forget about those people. Let's say
500,000 people have cable through my cable company. Let's also say 20% of
those have digital cable. Those people need a box. If I charge the fee my
current cable company charges ($9.95 a month), I'll make
100000*9.95=$9,950,000 a month JUST OFF BOXES! Yeah, it's mostly about money
and I agree it sucks, but that's the way it works. Just pay the fee or don't
get cable; plain and simple.

Dave

Dave,

I see you didn't get - do you know why a dog sucks his balls? Because
he can.
Do you know why Time Warner charges me 10 dollars a month for a cable
box, probably made in China and costs them a one time pament of $5?
Because they can, because I have no other option.
I think this situation is not good for the American consumer. Plain
and simple!!!

Zalek

"Zalek Bloom" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:13:27 -0600, "David Moran"
wrote:


"zalek" wrote in message
roups.com...

Joe Collins wrote:
zalek wrote:

Well Mr. Genius, I want to convince a corporation to send me the same
signal it is sending me to 2 other cables boxes I own. I want to buy
a
cable box from other, cheaper source. As a consumer - I think I have
a right to do it. Do you think otherwise?

I agree with you. I bought a vacuum that "fell off the truck" for a
real good price. Much less than I would have paid at Sears. Only
problem was the vacuum didn't work. I had the damnded time trying to
return it to Sears.

I also had a similar problem at Yankees Stadium. The tickets are so
expensive. So I bought a new set of crayons and printed one up for
myself. Would you believe they did not let me into the game? The
nerve. The utter nerve.

You are trying to be more religious than a Pope. Time Warner told me
that the reason they don't want to send me a signal is not because the
box I bought is stolen or dameged - the reason is because I DIDN'T BUY
IT FROM THEM.
Now do you understand?

Zalek


We understand that, but they can decide whether or not to authorize a box
or
not. I don't work for the cable company, but I am a professional
mathematician. Let's look at it this way. Let's say I own a cable company
in
a market of a million people. Not every one is going to need a box; only
those who have digital cable or possibly the ones who have an older TV.
The
chances of the latter are low so forget about those people. Let's say
500,000 people have cable through my cable company. Let's also say 20% of
those have digital cable. Those people need a box. If I charge the fee my
current cable company charges ($9.95 a month), I'll make
100000*9.95=$9,950,000 a month JUST OFF BOXES! Yeah, it's mostly about
money
and I agree it sucks, but that's the way it works. Just pay the fee or
don't
get cable; plain and simple.

Dave

Dave,

I see you didn't get - do you know why a dog sucks his balls? Because
he can.
Do you know why Time Warner charges me 10 dollars a month for a cable
box, probably made in China and costs them a one time pament of $5?
Because they can, because I have no other option.
I think this situation is not good for the American consumer. Plain
and simple!!!

Zalek

You DO have another option: DON'T GET CABLE. It's pure common sense. No
where does it say any one person has to have cable. That's like saying
everyone needs a car, not true. What if they allow you to use your box, but
add $10 on somewhere else, say for channels? You would STILL complain.

Dave

On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:31:12 -0600, "David Moran"
wrote:


"Zalek Bloom" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:13:27 -0600, "David Moran"
wrote:


"zalek" wrote in message
groups.com...

Joe Collins wrote:
zalek wrote:

Well Mr. Genius, I want to convince a corporation to send me the same
signal it is sending me to 2 other cables boxes I own. I want to buy
a
cable box from other, cheaper source. As a consumer - I think I have
a right to do it. Do you think otherwise?

I agree with you. I bought a vacuum that "fell off the truck" for a
real good price. Much less than I would have paid at Sears. Only
problem was the vacuum didn't work. I had the damnded time trying to
return it to Sears.

I also had a similar problem at Yankees Stadium. The tickets are so
expensive. So I bought a new set of crayons and printed one up for
myself. Would you believe they did not let me into the game? The
nerve. The utter nerve.

You are trying to be more religious than a Pope. Time Warner told me
that the reason they don't want to send me a signal is not because the
box I bought is stolen or dameged - the reason is because I DIDN'T BUY
IT FROM THEM.
Now do you understand?

Zalek


We understand that, but they can decide whether or not to authorize a box
or
not. I don't work for the cable company, but I am a professional
mathematician. Let's look at it this way. Let's say I own a cable company
in
a market of a million people. Not every one is going to need a box; only
those who have digital cable or possibly the ones who have an older TV.
The
chances of the latter are low so forget about those people. Let's say
500,000 people have cable through my cable company. Let's also say 20% of
those have digital cable. Those people need a box. If I charge the fee my
current cable company charges ($9.95 a month), I'll make
100000*9.95=$9,950,000 a month JUST OFF BOXES! Yeah, it's mostly about
money
and I agree it sucks, but that's the way it works. Just pay the fee or
don't
get cable; plain and simple.

Dave

Dave,

I see you didn't get - do you know why a dog sucks his balls? Because
he can.
Do you know why Time Warner charges me 10 dollars a month for a cable
box, probably made in China and costs them a one time pament of $5?
Because they can, because I have no other option.
I think this situation is not good for the American consumer. Plain
and simple!!!

Zalek

You DO have another option: DON'T GET CABLE. It's pure common sense. No
where does it say any one person has to have cable. That's like saying
everyone needs a car, not true. What if they allow you to use your box, but
add $10 on somewhere else, say for channels? You would STILL complain.

Dave


Dave,

Please, let me sell you something!!!!

And - yes, I do complain. This is my RIGHT as a consumer to complain.
And you have a right to pay overcharged priceses without any complain.

Zalek