Wondereful World of DVD burning

Hope I'm not OT here. Long story made short: I wanted to purchase GPS mapping
software, but the files are so large that it requires a DVD reader in my
computer. So I say to myself, *why not get a DVD reader/burner and then you
could burn some of those precious old VCR tapes. That's when I became
overwhelmed. Getting the burner is no problem...looking at a Pioneer 111. What
I can't fathom is how to hook up my VCR to the computer, what software does
what, etc. I know I have to get a video capture card, and ATI all-in-wonders
seem to be nice. I also know many folks in this NG use their computers as
tuners. That's not a need for me. What I humbly request is the simplest way
to:
a) hook up my VCR (has composite + analog L/R audio) output to the capture
card. (photos I've seen of them don't seem to have audio inputs--just DVI,
s-video and composite)
b) be able to record material from same to my hard drive---also being able to
EDIT during the burn if possible
c) actually burn the DVD
I know the burner comes with Nero, but being a newbie at all this, I don't know
if it can figure out what my capture card is doing, or if there is intermediate
software required as well.
Please, is there a simple answer?

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All the Best,
Richard Harison



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On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:34:44 -0500, Richard Harison wrote:

Hope I'm not OT here. Long story made short: I wanted to purchase GPS
mapping software, but the files are so large that it requires a DVD
reader in my computer. So I say to myself, *why not get a DVD
reader/burner and then you could burn some of those precious old VCR
tapes. That's when I became overwhelmed. Getting the burner is no
problem...looking at a Pioneer 111. What I can't fathom is how to hook
up my VCR to the computer, what software does what, etc. I know I have
to get a video capture card, and ATI all-in-wonders seem to be nice. I
also know many folks in this NG use their computers as tuners. That's
not a need for me. What I humbly request is the simplest way to:
a) hook up my VCR (has composite + analog L/R audio) output to the
capture card. (photos I've seen of them don't seem to have audio
inputs--just DVI, s-video and composite)
b) be able to record material from same to my hard drive---also being
able to EDIT during the burn if possible
c) actually burn the DVD
I know the burner comes with Nero, but being a newbie at all this, I
don't know if it can figure out what my capture card is doing, or if
there is intermediate software required as well.
Please, is there a simple answer?

You'd need to hook up the RF out of the VCR to the RF in on the NTSC tuner
card. Set the tuner to the same channel as the vcr, usually 3 or 4, start
the VCR playing and start recoridng on the PC. Once recorded, you can do
with it whatever. Sorry, I don't waste my time burning to dvd.

A heck of a lot easier. Buy a cheap ($79) DVD recorder. Hook the rf out of
the vcr to the rf in on the dvd recorder. record it straight to dvd, done.


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Thanks Wes...
I was indeed afraid of the ugly *RF connector* solution. So, for the sake of
audio, the capture card has to demodulate what the VCR has had to re-modulate--
instead of using already existing composite + L/R. So what of the case with a
capture card with a DVI input? What does one do to incorporate the audio at
that point?

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All the Best,
Richard Harison
"Wes Newell" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:34:44 -0500, Richard Harison wrote:

Hope I'm not OT here. Long story made short: I wanted to purchase GPS
mapping software, but the files are so large that it requires a DVD
reader in my computer. So I say to myself, *why not get a DVD
reader/burner and then you could burn some of those precious old VCR
tapes. That's when I became overwhelmed. Getting the burner is no
problem...looking at a Pioneer 111. What I can't fathom is how to hook
up my VCR to the computer, what software does what, etc. I know I have
to get a video capture card, and ATI all-in-wonders seem to be nice. I
also know many folks in this NG use their computers as tuners. That's
not a need for me. What I humbly request is the simplest way to:
a) hook up my VCR (has composite + analog L/R audio) output to the
capture card. (photos I've seen of them don't seem to have audio
inputs--just DVI, s-video and composite)
b) be able to record material from same to my hard drive---also being
able to EDIT during the burn if possible
c) actually burn the DVD
I know the burner comes with Nero, but being a newbie at all this, I
don't know if it can figure out what my capture card is doing, or if
there is intermediate software required as well.
Please, is there a simple answer?

You'd need to hook up the RF out of the VCR to the RF in on the NTSC tuner
card. Set the tuner to the same channel as the vcr, usually 3 or 4, start
the VCR playing and start recoridng on the PC. Once recorded, you can do
with it whatever. Sorry, I don't waste my time burning to dvd.

A heck of a lot easier. Buy a cheap ($79) DVD recorder. Hook the rf out of
the vcr to the rf in on the dvd recorder. record it straight to dvd, done.


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Richard Harison wrote:
Thanks Wes...
I was indeed afraid of the ugly *RF connector* solution. So, for the sake of
audio, the capture card has to demodulate what the VCR has had to re-modulate--
instead of using already existing composite + L/R. So what of the case with a
capture card with a DVI input? What does one do to incorporate the audio at
that point?

No no no.... do not use the RF connection for anything. The quality
will be B-A-D. Use the composite out and L/R video. However, for what
you want to do I recommend you forget the computer method. It has a lot
of flexibility but it is very time consuming. First you will need an
analog capture card with a composite video in, and L/R audio in. You
will also need video editing software and DVD authoring software. Video
requires 13GB per hour and you need to read all your tapes in real
time. If you want to edit video this is the way to go. I edit a lot
of video and author DVDs using Adobe Premiere Pro and Adobe Encore DVD
and it is nice but very very time consuming.

However... if all you want to do is convert some VHS tapes to DVD I
second the recommendation for a stand alone DVD recorder. You simply
connect the composite video + L/R audio from the VCR, hit play on the
VCR and record on the DVD recorder... viola... done.

For the difference in price, by all means get the Pioneer DVD burner
for the PC too. It can be handy for making DVD data disks and of course
it will also burn CD's. You can always add video editing software
later if you feel you want to get into that. As cheap as DVD burners
are it really doesn' pay anymore to buy a CD-only burner.

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:34:44 -0500, "Richard Harison"
wrote:

Hope I'm not OT here. Long story made short: I wanted to purchase GPS mapping
software, but the files are so large that it requires a DVD reader in my
computer. So I say to myself, *why not get a DVD reader/burner and then you
could burn some of those precious old VCR tapes. That's when I became
overwhelmed. Getting the burner is no problem...looking at a Pioneer 111. What
I can't fathom is how to hook up my VCR to the computer, what software does
what, etc. I know I have to get a video capture card, and ATI all-in-wonders
seem to be nice. I also know many folks in this NG use their computers as
tuners. That's not a need for me. What I humbly request is the simplest way
to:
a) hook up my VCR (has composite + analog L/R audio) output to the capture
card. (photos I've seen of them don't seem to have audio inputs--just DVI,
s-video and composite)
b) be able to record material from same to my hard drive---also being able to
EDIT during the burn if possible
c) actually burn the DVD
I know the burner comes with Nero, but being a newbie at all this, I don't know
if it can figure out what my capture card is doing, or if there is intermediate
software required as well.
Please, is there a simple answer?

I use an old ATI All in Wonder Radeon 7500 to capture composite video
in DVD 720 x 480 MPEG-2 format using the ATI MMC software.
Then I use TMPGEnc DVD Author to edit the video and author the DVD.
Finally I use Nero to burn the DVD.

So your ATI card has the L/R audio jacks as well?
Thanks

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All the Best,
Richard Harison
"Andy" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:34:44 -0500, "Richard Harison"
wrote:

Hope I'm not OT here. Long story made short: I wanted to purchase GPS
mapping
software, but the files are so large that it requires a DVD reader in my
computer. So I say to myself, *why not get a DVD reader/burner and then you
could burn some of those precious old VCR tapes. That's when I became
overwhelmed. Getting the burner is no problem...looking at a Pioneer 111.
What
I can't fathom is how to hook up my VCR to the computer, what software does
what, etc. I know I have to get a video capture card, and ATI all-in-wonders
seem to be nice. I also know many folks in this NG use their computers as
tuners. That's not a need for me. What I humbly request is the simplest way
to:
a) hook up my VCR (has composite + analog L/R audio) output to the capture
card. (photos I've seen of them don't seem to have audio inputs--just DVI,
s-video and composite)
b) be able to record material from same to my hard drive---also being able to
EDIT during the burn if possible
c) actually burn the DVD
I know the burner comes with Nero, but being a newbie at all this, I don't
know
if it can figure out what my capture card is doing, or if there is
intermediate
software required as well.
Please, is there a simple answer?

I use an old ATI All in Wonder Radeon 7500 to capture composite video
in DVD 720 x 480 MPEG-2 format using the ATI MMC software.
Then I use TMPGEnc DVD Author to edit the video and author the DVD.
Finally I use Nero to burn the DVD.



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Your standalone DVD burner sound like a good idea. But how does one edit using
the *press play/press record* technique?

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All the Best,
Richard Harison
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Richard Harison wrote:
Thanks Wes...
I was indeed afraid of the ugly *RF connector* solution. So, for the sake of
audio, the capture card has to demodulate what the VCR has had to
re-modulate--
instead of using already existing composite + L/R. So what of the case with
a
capture card with a DVI input? What does one do to incorporate the audio at
that point?

No no no.... do not use the RF connection for anything. The quality
will be B-A-D. Use the composite out and L/R video. However, for what
you want to do I recommend you forget the computer method. It has a lot
of flexibility but it is very time consuming. First you will need an
analog capture card with a composite video in, and L/R audio in. You
will also need video editing software and DVD authoring software. Video
requires 13GB per hour and you need to read all your tapes in real
time. If you want to edit video this is the way to go. I edit a lot
of video and author DVDs using Adobe Premiere Pro and Adobe Encore DVD
and it is nice but very very time consuming.

However... if all you want to do is convert some VHS tapes to DVD I
second the recommendation for a stand alone DVD recorder. You simply
connect the composite video + L/R audio from the VCR, hit play on the
VCR and record on the DVD recorder... viola... done.

For the difference in price, by all means get the Pioneer DVD burner
for the PC too. It can be handy for making DVD data disks and of course
it will also burn CD's. You can always add video editing software
later if you feel you want to get into that. As cheap as DVD burners
are it really doesn' pay anymore to buy a CD-only burner.




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Hi Andy,
Had a quick look at the ATI/AMD site. Their description of MMC seems to say
that you can capture, edit and burn DVD all from within it.
If this is true, why the need for an authoring (I concept I don't really
understand) program and then Nero?
Thanks

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All the Best,
Richard Harison
"Andy" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:34:44 -0500, "Richard Harison"
wrote:

Hope I'm not OT here. Long story made short: I wanted to purchase GPS
mapping
software, but the files are so large that it requires a DVD reader in my
computer. So I say to myself, *why not get a DVD reader/burner and then you
could burn some of those precious old VCR tapes. That's when I became
overwhelmed. Getting the burner is no problem...looking at a Pioneer 111.
What
I can't fathom is how to hook up my VCR to the computer, what software does
what, etc. I know I have to get a video capture card, and ATI all-in-wonders
seem to be nice. I also know many folks in this NG use their computers as
tuners. That's not a need for me. What I humbly request is the simplest way
to:
a) hook up my VCR (has composite + analog L/R audio) output to the capture
card. (photos I've seen of them don't seem to have audio inputs--just DVI,
s-video and composite)
b) be able to record material from same to my hard drive---also being able to
EDIT during the burn if possible
c) actually burn the DVD
I know the burner comes with Nero, but being a newbie at all this, I don't
know
if it can figure out what my capture card is doing, or if there is
intermediate
software required as well.
Please, is there a simple answer?

I use an old ATI All in Wonder Radeon 7500 to capture composite video
in DVD 720 x 480 MPEG-2 format using the ATI MMC software.
Then I use TMPGEnc DVD Author to edit the video and author the DVD.
Finally I use Nero to burn the DVD.



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Richard Harison wrote:
Your standalone DVD burner sound like a good idea. But how does one edit using
the *press play/press record* technique?

I guess I assumed you were looking for a simple solution to converting
VHS tapes to DVD.

If your intention is to do video editing then you will need the full
suite of tools. The process is fairly simple and some applications like
Adobe Premiere Elements combine several tools into one. First, you will
need an analog capture card and a DVD burner. Make sure the analog
capture card has an input for composite video and L/R audio. The steps
will then be:

1. Capture the video in real-time. This will require 13GB/hour of
disk storage. To preserve quality, make sure you save the capture in
AVI format.
2. Edit the captured segments in the video editor of your choosing.
Save the final output as AVI.
3. Import the final AVI into the DVD authoring application. This
will allow you to chose a bitrate for the encode, author menus, set
chapter points, etc.
4. Encode and burn the final project to DVD-R or DVD+R.

That's all there is to it.

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:07:41 -0500, Richard Harison wrote:

Your standalone DVD burner sound like a good idea. But how does one edit using
the *press play/press record* technique?

Well once you have it on DVD, it's simple a matter of loading it in the
PC, editing it, and then burning a new DVD. Still probably easier or at
least cheaper than going the capture card route. And you also get a DVD
player out of it.

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