Polonium 210 in cigarettes.

On 12 Dec 2006 16:00:30 GMT, (Richard Tobin)
wrote:

I always thought it would be better if every time you smoked a
cigarette, there was a one in a million chance of you exploding on the
spot. It would combine a deterrent effect with good wholesome family
entertainment.

For every 14 people who exploded, somebody would win the lottery.
(Hopefully not one of the 14 though. That would be a bit of a bummer).

Rod.

"Richard Tobin" wrote in message
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In article ,
Steve Terry wrote:

I'll give you some more then, Both my Mother and Brother in law
died 20 years apart, aged just over 50 years old each, of cancer.

Both smoked Golden Virginia unfiltered roll ups.

Obviously murdered by KGB agents with polonium 210

I always thought it would be better if every time you smoked a
cigarette, there was a one in a million chance of you exploding on the
spot. It would combine a deterrent effect with good wholesome family
entertainment.

How would they know you were not a suicide bomber?


-- Richard
--
"Consideration shall be given to the need for as many as 32 characters
in some alphabets" - X3.4, 1963.

"Richard Oliver" wrote in message
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Tate and Lyle wrote:

Thats a bit of a turn up for the books isn't, for me as a smoker it is
the most
compelling piece of evidence for me to give up smoking I have ever heard
and
it has for the first time made me think seriously about giving up for
health reasons because
[snip]
Quite frankly I feel like sueing the government for not passing on this
information.

I assumed you posted because the Government pulled two polonium smoke
warning ads. Reported yesterday he-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6168887.stm

No I heard somehingon the radio, I did not knowof these ads specifically.


"The Department of Health said it was "inappropriate" to show the ad,
which shows cigarettes contain polonium 210."]



That really is quite staggering isn't it they have withdrawn ads because
they
feared they would be effective.
"They caused some concern locally, and have now also been withdrawn. "
Clear government negligence

"Dave Farrance" wrote in message
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"Tate and Lyle" wrote:

Thats a bit of a turn up for the books isn't, for me as a smoker it is the
most
compelling piece of evidence for me to give up smoking I have ever heard
and
it has for the first time made me think seriously about giving up for
health
reasons because
it is readily understandable as cause and effect. All the crap warnings on
cigarettes

Those orphaned words every other line make it hard to read. Surely you
couldn't be using a widescreen monitor, halfie?

GAL


--
Dave Farrance

"Dominic" wrote in message
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"Pyriform" wrote:
Tate and Lyle wrote:
Thats a bit of a turn up for the books isn't, for me as a smoker it
is the most compelling piece of evidence for me to give up smoking I
have
ever
heard and it has for the first time made me think seriously about
giving up for health reasons because it is readily understandable as
cause
and effect.

It's been known for years. But then, so has the link between smoking and
dying from a range of diseases. If you ignored all that evidence, I find
it
odd that you should start worrying now just because a Russian was murdered
in a bizarre fashion. Why do you find the chain of events that lead from
radon gas decay to the presence of alpha-particle emitting polonium inside
your lungs so compelling? The epidemiological evidence about smoking has
been clear for decades.

Interesting that tobacco polonium content has increased at the same time
as lung cancer rates though. Statistics strike again.

(from http://www.webspawner.com/users/radioactivethreat/ )
...
Lung cancer rates increased significantly during most of the 1900's(6).
It's no
coincidence that between 1938 and 1960, the level of polonium 210 in
American
tobacco tripled commensurate with the increased use of chemical
fertilizers and
Persistant Organic Pollutant (POP) accumulation(7).
...

Did find a site before (well, I was googling Po210, as you do) which
put the supposed link more explicitly than that.

Although why anyone needs extra excuses not to smoke is beyond
me. The trembling heaps of tobacco stained smokers outside
'no smoking' offices and shopping centres ought to put anyone
off. Besides, it smells.

I don't know whether you are aware of it or not but the active ingredient
in tobaco smoke, nicotine is highly adictive.

One wonders how the tobacco companies can get away with using radioactive
chemicals in the fertilizzer they use. I believe the legal term for this is
murder'.
I feel a class action coming on.


dom.

p.s. perhaps the tobacco companies will start marketing 'Low Polonium'
fags alongside the 'Low Tar' ones.

Just look at the alternate benefits - as with all good things you have to
die of something.

Just think of the high doses of Po210 you get with shellfish

However at the levels of Po in cigarettes you will still have 5 times the
chance of dieing of heart disease. Also do not move to Cornwall - very
risky - from the radiation viewpoint.


"Tate and Lyle" wrote in message
...
Thats a bit of a turn up for the books isn't, for me as a smoker it is the
most
compelling piece of evidence for me to give up smoking I have ever heard
and
it has for the first time made me think seriously about giving up for
health reasons because
it is readily understandable as cause and effect. All the crap warnings on
cigarettes
such as 'cigarettes damage you health' and 'smoking kills' had virtually
no effect on me
because basically I don't take such warnings seriously unless there is a
credible explanation
as to why this should be the case, now at least I have one *only* because
of this weird
Russian spy murder thing.
Quite frankly I feel like sueing the government for not passing on this
information.
Indeed I heard an ASH campaigner (anti smoking) being interviewed about
this
and as to why they had never highlighted this information, his
explaination was bizar-
"Well there are other dangerous chemicals in there too (benzene, Chromium
etc..) so we
dont bother to mention them??!! hello?????"
He really didn't seem to want to talk about it at all, it seems like there
is some sort of massive
cover up going on. I wonder why?
Here is one posible reason:-
" Imported India tobacco has less than half the radiation content of that
grown in the U.S."

Of course all you none smokers may well smile smuggly because you don't
smoke, but
still you do breathe he stuff in passively.


Anyway here is another relevation!!!

"In fact, nicotine is so poisonous that smokers who ignore their doctor's
advice and continue to smoke while using dermal nicotine patches have
managed to overdose and die of heart seizure"

I doubt you will see that on nicotine patch
advertisments!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also I have always suspected that 'anti-smoking advertisements' were
designed to be inneffective
because of the ammount of money raised in taxess and the 'bribe power' of
big tobacco companies.

Got the info from he-
http://nepenthes.lycaeum.org/Drugs/T...th/cancer.html

(Cigarette dangleing from my mouth as I type!!)

"Tate and Lyle" wrote:
"Dominic" wrote in message

Although why anyone needs extra excuses not to smoke is beyond
me. The trembling heaps of tobacco stained smokers outside
'no smoking' offices and shopping centres ought to put anyone
off. Besides, it smells.

I don't know whether you are aware of it or not but the active ingredient
in tobaco smoke, nicotine is highly adictive.


I was aware of that. I was making an attempt at humour. I apologise.

One wonders how the tobacco companies can get away with using radioactive
chemicals in the fertilizzer they use. I believe the legal term for this is
murder'.
I feel a class action coming on.


But what happens if you win? Tobacco companies out of business! What
will you smoke then!?

dom.

p.s. Sorry, that was another attempt at humour. I'll go away now.

Tate and Lyle wrote:
I don't know whether you are aware of it or not but the active
ingredient in tobaco smoke, nicotine is highly adictive.

Well I never. That's not what the 7 CEOs of 'Big Tobacco' (AKA the 7
dwarves) were testifying, under oath, before the US House Subcommittee on
Health and the Environment in 1994:

http://www.jeffreywigand.com/insider/7ceos.html

Nice piece of film. You should watch it. Seems they done you up like a
kipper.

"Tate and Lyle" wrote in message
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"Richard Tobin" wrote in message
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In article ,
Steve Terry wrote:
I'll give you some more then, Both my Mother and Brother in law
died 20 years apart, aged just over 50 years old each, of cancer.
Both smoked Golden Virginia unfiltered roll ups.
Obviously murdered by KGB agents with polonium 210

I always thought it would be better if every time you smoked a
cigarette, there was a one in a million chance of you exploding on the
spot. It would combine a deterrent effect with good wholesome family
entertainment.

How would they know you were not a suicide bomber?


Or an owner of a Dell laptop

Steve Terry

"Tate and Lyle" wrote in message
...
"Richard Oliver" wrote in message
...
snip
I assumed you posted because the Government pulled two polonium smoke
warning ads. Reported yesterday he-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6168887.stm

No I heard somehing on the radio, I did not know of these ads
specifically.

"The Department of Health said it was "inappropriate" to show the ad,
which shows cigarettes contain polonium 210."]

That really is quite staggering isn't it they have withdrawn ads because
they feared they would be effective.
"They caused some concern locally, and have now also been withdrawn. "
Clear government negligence
Not really staggering, the Treasury are are the biggest drug barons in the
country bar non, they rely on £Billions from Tobacco and alcohol taxes.
and it's the Treasury that pulls this Govs strings.

Something to do with Layer cakes, from Tobacconists / off licences
at the bottom, to the Treasury and Manufactures at the top

More civilised countries at least have much lower "legal drug" taxes,
and hence less responsibility / immorality

Steve Terry