HDTV in the UK

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http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/12...guide_updated/
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aa

aa wrote:
Item updated today..

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/12...guide_updated/
Thank you for this - very clear

margaret

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aa


If it has been updated it does sound a little outdated. This years HD sets
have much better SD scalers and when properly set up make good SD DVB
broadcasts look fantastic. The problem is they also make bad DVB virtually
unwatchable.

I think anyone looking for a large screen (32) would be mad to go out and
get a humungous SD CRT. Your are better off getting a HD Ready LCD/Plasmsa,
even for SD.

The good thing is that bad SD looks so bad the wife will watch Strictly come
Dancing on the CRT in the bedroom, leaving you to watch the HD soccer in
peace.

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So very few of the currently available so called HD ready TVs will display Sky's
1080i in native mode.

I would argue that calling a TV that can only display up to 720 lines (without
downgrading) HD is something of a con.

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Michael Chare

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So very few of the currently available so called HD ready TVs will display
Sky's
1080i in native mode.

I would argue that calling a TV that can only display up to 720 lines
(without
downgrading) HD is something of a con.

720 is progressive, with 1080i you have to consider the Kell factor. You
can't just do a straight comparison between the two. Most of the British
public are too stupid to realise, they think higher number = better.

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"aa" wrote in message
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Item updated today..

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/12...guide_updated/
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So very few of the currently available so called HD ready TVs will display
Sky's
1080i in native mode.

I would argue that calling a TV that can only display up to 720 lines
(without
downgrading) HD is something of a con.

720 is progressive, with 1080i you have to consider the Kell factor. You
can't just do a straight comparison between the two. Most of the British
public are too stupid to realise, they think higher number = better.

The 1080i v 720p issue is really a different point. My point was that not being
not being able to display all the individual lines in a 1080i signal would be a
disadvantage.

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Michael Chare

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Item updated today..

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/12...guide_updated/
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So very few of the currently available so called HD ready TVs will
display Sky's
1080i in native mode.

I would argue that calling a TV that can only display up to 720 lines
(without
downgrading) HD is something of a con.

720 is progressive, with 1080i you have to consider the Kell factor. You
can't just do a straight comparison between the two. Most of the British
public are too stupid

You mean badly informed. I have many badly informed customers who are far
from stupid.

to realise, they think higher number = better.



Bill

It seems the retailers are being very coy about this... they have lots of
720 panels to sell ;-)

Look at the newspaper ads for Currys, Comet etc. and read the weasel words
"for the highest picture quality in its class" (720 line class?) "capable of
receiving the highest quality HD signal" (but not displaying it at native
1080 resolution).

There are more 1080 panels around now... I've been trying to get a couple of
large 1080 LCDs that will display pixel accurate 1920 x 1080i via the HDMI
and VGA inputs.
Many of the 1080 panels will NOT do 1080 via the VGA inputs - you have to
comb the manual to find this out...

Annoyingly some will take a 1920 x 1080i signal and overscan it a few
percent - even thought the panel is 1920 x 1080... Sony Bravias do this and
it destroys any fine text in the picture.

Only way is to connect a PC and output 1920 x 1080 (I've made a test card
..tiff with a one pixel border) - can you see the one pixel border?

I'm told (?) there is a Westinghouse and some Toshiba 1080 units that will
do true pixel accurate 1920 x 1080 but have yet to see this demonstarted.
I have been told by company droids that their sets will only to find they
won't when you actually try it.... ;-)

I'm trying to display hi-res GIS and satellite imaging on a couple of 42" or
more displays... Sharp 52" and Sansungs are next ones to try...

Guy

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Item updated today..

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/12...guide_updated/
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So very few of the currently available so called HD ready TVs will
display Sky's
1080i in native mode.

I would argue that calling a TV that can only display up to 720
lines (without
downgrading) HD is something of a con.

720 is progressive, with 1080i you have to consider the Kell factor.
You can't just do a straight comparison between the two. Most of the
British public are too stupid to realise, they think higher number =
better.

The 1080i v 720p issue is really a different point. My point was
that not being not being able to display all the individual lines in
a 1080i signal would be a disadvantage.

Bigguy wrote:
It seems the retailers are being very coy about this... they have
lots of 720 panels to sell ;-)

Look at the newspaper ads for Currys, Comet etc. and read the weasel
words "for the highest picture quality in its class" (720 line
class?) "capable of receiving the highest quality HD signal" (but not
displaying it at native 1080 resolution).

There are more 1080 panels around now... I've been trying to get a
couple of large 1080 LCDs that will display pixel accurate 1920 x
1080i via the HDMI and VGA inputs.
Many of the 1080 panels will NOT do 1080 via the VGA inputs - you
have to comb the manual to find this out...

Annoyingly some will take a 1920 x 1080i signal and overscan it a few
percent - even thought the panel is 1920 x 1080... Sony Bravias do
this and it destroys any fine text in the picture.

Only way is to connect a PC and output 1920 x 1080 (I've made a test
card .tiff with a one pixel border) - can you see the one pixel
border?

I'm told (?) there is a Westinghouse and some Toshiba 1080 units that
will do true pixel accurate 1920 x 1080 but have yet to see this
demonstarted.
I have been told by company droids that their sets will only to find
they won't when you actually try it.... ;-)

I'm trying to display hi-res GIS and satellite imaging on a couple of
42" or more displays... Sharp 52" and Sansungs are next ones to try...

Guy


Another thing never mentioned in the advertising blurb, some panels even
though they're 1920x1080 cannot display 1080p

It seems the retailers are being very coy about this... they have lots of
720 panels to sell ;-)

Look at the newspaper ads for Currys, Comet etc. and read the weasel words
"for the highest picture quality in its class" (720 line class?) "capable of
receiving the highest quality HD signal" (but not displaying it at native
1080 resolution).

There are more 1080 panels around now... I've been trying to get a couple of
large 1080 LCDs that will display pixel accurate 1920 x 1080i via the HDMI
and VGA inputs.
Many of the 1080 panels will NOT do 1080 via the VGA inputs - you have to
comb the manual to find this out...

Annoyingly some will take a 1920 x 1080i signal and overscan it a few
percent - even thought the panel is 1920 x 1080... Sony Bravias do this and
it destroys any fine text in the picture.

Only way is to connect a PC and output 1920 x 1080 (I've made a test card
.tiff with a one pixel border) - can you see the one pixel border?

I'm told (?) there is a Westinghouse and some Toshiba 1080 units that will
do true pixel accurate 1920 x 1080 but have yet to see this demonstarted.
I have been told by company droids that their sets will only to find they
won't when you actually try it.... ;-)

I'm trying to display hi-res GIS and satellite imaging on a couple of 42" or
more displays... Sharp 52" and Sansungs are next ones to try...

Guy

Why not just try one of the new Sony 1080p sets?