HDTV OTA Antenna with rotor

Let me say it again: You can enter channels manually BUT you must know
the real channel number. Here in Boston, digital channel 4 is really
broadcasting on UHF channel 30. Point your antenna at the broadcast
antenna and enter "30" and not 4. My Panasonic 32" wheezes for 2-4
seconds while while it tries to find analog channel 30 (which doesn't
exist). When it can't find analog channel 30, it looks for a digital
signal. Then after a few more seconds, the TV is displaying "4.1" and
digital channel 4 is now added to the channel list. I'll bet your TV
works the same way. www.antennaweb.org will tell you the digital/real
channel numbers.

NadCixelsyd wrote:
Let me say it again: You can enter channels manually BUT you must know
the real channel number. Here in Boston, digital channel 4 is really
broadcasting on UHF channel 30. Point your antenna at the broadcast
antenna and enter "30" and not 4. My Panasonic 32" wheezes for 2-4
seconds while while it tries to find analog channel 30 (which doesn't
exist). When it can't find analog channel 30, it looks for a digital
signal. Then after a few more seconds, the TV is displaying "4.1" and
digital channel 4 is now added to the channel list. I'll bet your TV
works the same way. www.antennaweb.org will tell you the digital/real
channel numbers.

NadCixelsyd wrote:
Let me say it again: You can enter channels manually BUT you must know
the real channel number. Here in Boston, digital channel 4 is really
broadcasting on UHF channel 30. Point your antenna at the broadcast
antenna and enter "30" and not 4. My Panasonic 32" wheezes for 2-4
seconds while while it tries to find analog channel 30 (which doesn't
exist). When it can't find analog channel 30, it looks for a digital
signal. Then after a few more seconds, the TV is displaying "4.1" and
digital channel 4 is now added to the channel list. I'll bet your TV
works the same way. www.antennaweb.org will tell you the digital/real
channel numbers.
I guess I'm not very clear. The Emerson ewl3706 will only pick up
digital channels that it saved from autoscan. try to follow this:
1. point antenna south.
2. Autoscan picks up 3 DTV channels 3,9,50.
3. Rotate antenna north.
4. Key in existing channel 11.1, no signal.
5 Autoscan saves 11 and 5 DTV
6. Guess what , 3,9,50 DTV are gone.
I'm looking for a set that works with a rotor. No I'll bets
accepted...BTW Emerson tech support acknowledged that it won't work.

hogman wrote:
NadCixelsyd wrote:
Let me say it again: You can enter channels manually BUT you must know
the real channel number. Here in Boston, digital channel 4 is really
broadcasting on UHF channel 30. Point your antenna at the broadcast
antenna and enter "30" and not 4. My Panasonic 32" wheezes for 2-4
seconds while while it tries to find analog channel 30 (which doesn't
exist). When it can't find analog channel 30, it looks for a digital
signal. Then after a few more seconds, the TV is displaying "4.1" and
digital channel 4 is now added to the channel list. I'll bet your TV
works the same way. www.antennaweb.org will tell you the digital/real
channel numbers.
I guess I'm not very clear. The Emerson ewl3706 will only pick up
digital channels that it saved from autoscan. try to follow this:
1. point antenna south.
2. Autoscan picks up 3 DTV channels 3,9,50.
3. Rotate antenna north.
4. Key in existing channel 11.1, no signal.
5 Autoscan saves 11 and 5 DTV
6. Guess what , 3,9,50 DTV are gone.
I'm looking for a set that works with a rotor. No I'll bets
accepted...BTW Emerson tech support acknowledged that it won't work.


You're perfectly clear, but you don't understand what NadCixelsyd is
saying. 11.1 is a virtual channel - it isn't really on channel 11.
There's a real channel associated with it. For example, in my area
virtual channels 2.1 and 2.2 are actually on real channel 52, so if you
lived near me and wanted to tune in digital channel 2.1, you'd key in
"52", not "2.1".

You need to find out what the real channel is and key that in. If you go
to www.antennaweb.org and put in your zip code, it'll tell you what
digital channels are available in your area and list the real channel
for each. Once you've tuned the channel in once, your TV may remember
what real channel is associated with the virtual channel and allow you
to key in the "11.1", but it may not and require you to enter the real
channel every time.

A station can't broadcast their digital signals on the same channel as
their analog signals, so they came up with this scheme - the digital
signal is on a different channel than their analog signal, but since
many people know the analog channel, the digital signal has a "virtual"
channel associated with it. When your TV does a scan, it picks up the
actual channel but displays the virtual channel. When the analog signal
gets cut off, the stations have the choice of moving their digital
signal to the channel their analog signal was on, or they can leave it
where it's at.

Jeff Shoaf wrote:
hogman wrote:
NadCixelsyd wrote:
Let me say it again: You can enter channels manually BUT you must know
the real channel number. Here in Boston, digital channel 4 is really
broadcasting on UHF channel 30. Point your antenna at the broadcast
antenna and enter "30" and not 4. My Panasonic 32" wheezes for 2-4
seconds while while it tries to find analog channel 30 (which doesn't
exist). When it can't find analog channel 30, it looks for a digital
signal. Then after a few more seconds, the TV is displaying "4.1" and
digital channel 4 is now added to the channel list. I'll bet your TV
works the same way. www.antennaweb.org will tell you the digital/real
channel numbers.
I guess I'm not very clear. The Emerson ewl3706 will only pick up
digital channels that it saved from autoscan. try to follow this:
1. point antenna south.
2. Autoscan picks up 3 DTV channels 3,9,50.
3. Rotate antenna north.
4. Key in existing channel 11.1, no signal.
5 Autoscan saves 11 and 5 DTV
6. Guess what , 3,9,50 DTV are gone.
I'm looking for a set that works with a rotor. No I'll bets
accepted...BTW Emerson tech support acknowledged that it won't work.


You're perfectly clear, but you don't understand what NadCixelsyd is
saying. 11.1 is a virtual channel - it isn't really on channel 11.
There's a real channel associated with it. For example, in my area
virtual channels 2.1 and 2.2 are actually on real channel 52, so if you
lived near me and wanted to tune in digital channel 2.1, you'd key in
"52", not "2.1".

You need to find out what the real channel is and key that in. If you go
to www.antennaweb.org and put in your zip code, it'll tell you what
digital channels are available in your area and list the real channel
for each. Once you've tuned the channel in once, your TV may remember
what real channel is associated with the virtual channel and allow you
to key in the "11.1", but it may not and require you to enter the real
channel every time.

A station can't broadcast their digital signals on the same channel as
their analog signals, so they came up with this scheme - the digital
signal is on a different channel than their analog signal, but since
many people know the analog channel, the digital signal has a "virtual"
channel associated with it. When your TV does a scan, it picks up the
actual channel but displays the virtual channel. When the analog signal
gets cut off, the stations have the choice of moving their digital
signal to the channel their analog signal was on, or they can leave it
where it's at.
I guess I'm not very clear. The set will only receive DTV channels it
saved from autoscan. Thus when antenna is rotated after autoscan
finding (3,9,18) you must autoscan again to get
DTV 5 and 18. Now you can't get DTV 3,9,18. I'm looking for a set that
one can manually add DTV channels after an autoscan. From what I've
found so far, I'm not sure one exist.
I was hoping someone that actually has a HDTV set with a rotor that
works would respond.
I enjoy reading these responses, but they realy don't address the
problem.

"hogman" wrote (in part):

I guess I'm not very clear. The set will only receive DTV channels it
saved from autoscan. Thus when antenna is rotated after autoscan
finding (3,9,18) you must autoscan again to get
DTV 5 and 18. Now you can't get DTV 3,9,18. I'm looking for a set that
one can manually add DTV channels after an autoscan. From what I've
found so far, I'm not sure one exist.

The other responders have given you good information, but only part of
it. The other part is: RTFM!! Specifically page 15 of your Owner's
Manual (http://www.emersonaudiovideo.com/pdf/om/EWL3706.pdf for those
who want to follow along) under the heading "MANUAL REGISTER,"
described as:

"This function lets you manually add channels not memorized due to
poor broadcast strength during AUTOSCAN."

Put that together with what they said about finding and entering the
real channel number and you should be all set.

Del Mibbler

I have similar problem with my HDTV, however I never persued it with the
owners manual. The autoscan takes quite a while, so while it is scanning, I
adjust the rotor so it goes between the two areas I receive the signals
from. That worked for me.

Jim
"hogman" wrote in message
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Jeff Shoaf wrote:
hogman wrote:
NadCixelsyd wrote:
Let me say it again: You can enter channels manually BUT you must
know
the real channel number. Here in Boston, digital channel 4 is really
broadcasting on UHF channel 30. Point your antenna at the broadcast
antenna and enter "30" and not 4. My Panasonic 32" wheezes for 2-4
seconds while while it tries to find analog channel 30 (which doesn't
exist). When it can't find analog channel 30, it looks for a digital
signal. Then after a few more seconds, the TV is displaying "4.1" and
digital channel 4 is now added to the channel list. I'll bet your TV
works the same way. www.antennaweb.org will tell you the digital/real
channel numbers.
I guess I'm not very clear. The Emerson ewl3706 will only pick up
digital channels that it saved from autoscan. try to follow this:
1. point antenna south.
2. Autoscan picks up 3 DTV channels 3,9,50.
3. Rotate antenna north.
4. Key in existing channel 11.1, no signal.
5 Autoscan saves 11 and 5 DTV
6. Guess what , 3,9,50 DTV are gone.
I'm looking for a set that works with a rotor. No I'll bets
accepted...BTW Emerson tech support acknowledged that it won't work.


You're perfectly clear, but you don't understand what NadCixelsyd is
saying. 11.1 is a virtual channel - it isn't really on channel 11.
There's a real channel associated with it. For example, in my area
virtual channels 2.1 and 2.2 are actually on real channel 52, so if you
lived near me and wanted to tune in digital channel 2.1, you'd key in
"52", not "2.1".

You need to find out what the real channel is and key that in. If you go
to www.antennaweb.org and put in your zip code, it'll tell you what
digital channels are available in your area and list the real channel
for each. Once you've tuned the channel in once, your TV may remember
what real channel is associated with the virtual channel and allow you
to key in the "11.1", but it may not and require you to enter the real
channel every time.

A station can't broadcast their digital signals on the same channel as
their analog signals, so they came up with this scheme - the digital
signal is on a different channel than their analog signal, but since
many people know the analog channel, the digital signal has a "virtual"
channel associated with it. When your TV does a scan, it picks up the
actual channel but displays the virtual channel. When the analog signal
gets cut off, the stations have the choice of moving their digital
signal to the channel their analog signal was on, or they can leave it
where it's at.
I guess I'm not very clear. The set will only receive DTV channels it
saved from autoscan. Thus when antenna is rotated after autoscan
finding (3,9,18) you must autoscan again to get
DTV 5 and 18. Now you can't get DTV 3,9,18. I'm looking for a set that
one can manually add DTV channels after an autoscan. From what I've
found so far, I'm not sure one exist.
I was hoping someone that actually has a HDTV set with a rotor that
works would respond.
I enjoy reading these responses, but they realy don't address the
problem.

hogman wrote:

You need to find out what the real channel is and key that in. If you go
to www.antennaweb.org and put in your zip code, it'll tell you what
digital channels are available in your area and list the real channel
for each. Once you've tuned the channel in once, your TV may remember
what real channel is associated with the virtual channel and allow you
to key in the "11.1", but it may not and require you to enter the real
channel every time.

A station can't broadcast their digital signals on the same channel as
their analog signals, so they came up with this scheme - the digital
signal is on a different channel than their analog signal, but since
many people know the analog channel, the digital signal has a "virtual"
channel associated with it. When your TV does a scan, it picks up the
actual channel but displays the virtual channel. When the analog signal
gets cut off, the stations have the choice of moving their digital
signal to the channel their analog signal was on, or they can leave it
where it's at.
I guess I'm not very clear. The set will only receive DTV channels it
saved from autoscan. Thus when antenna is rotated after autoscan
finding (3,9,18) you must autoscan again to get
DTV 5 and 18. Now you can't get DTV 3,9,18. I'm looking for a set that
one can manually add DTV channels after an autoscan. From what I've
found so far, I'm not sure one exist.
I was hoping someone that actually has a HDTV set with a rotor that
works would respond.
I enjoy reading these responses, but they realy don't address the
problem.


Did you even bother to try what we've suggested, or are just assuming
that none of us know what we're talking about?

Before we get all in a tither about "RTFM", I should note that if you
zoom in on the picture on page 15, the fine print says, "For Digital
channels, you (sic) must perform Autoscan function." Frankly, I'll bet
that the channels can be manually input. Three things come to mind:

(1) My Panasonic 32" works just fine OTA. After autoscan, I was able
to point the antenna in alternate directions and add stations. This
answers the OP's original question

(2) I don't think the OP still understands the concept that channel
11.1 is really on some other channel. One can not enter 11.1 (the
virtual channel), one must enter the real channel number. Tell us your
zip code and we will tell you what channels to tune to.

(3) I'm trying to figure out why the Emerson manual capitalizes
"Digital" and "Autoscan" in that sentence. I don't think either are
proper nouns.

Two more things:

(1) When you're adding channels, NEVER perform autoscan again. Any
autoscan will erase the old autoscan.

(2) When you're adding channels, NEVER enter a decimal point. If
digital channel 17 is broadcasting on channel 22, just enter 22. It
will find 17.1 and 17.2 when it finds a digital signal on channel 22.