Digital Coaxial vs. Optical

"lofmark" wrote in message
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Are they near the same?????

There have been reports of jitter to be a potential problem in some
TOSLINK (optical) implementations:
http://www.google.com/search?num=100...toslink+jitter

Mark wrote:
"lofmark" wrote in message
oups.com...
Are they near the same?????

There have been reports of jitter to be a potential problem in some
TOSLINK (optical) implementations:
http://www.google.com/search?num=100...toslink+jitter

Great article, although it makes me want to upgrade my fiber optic
cable! I was always under the impression that with fiber optics you
either got a signal or you didn't, but apparently that isn't the case.
This would explain why the audio is slightly lower when running through
my toslink as opposed to using the co-ax.

Gives me the excuse to go buy a good cable anyway... and, I can use
enough techno babble in my explanation now to justify it to the boss!
:-)

To all those who are laughing at my article; Laugh all you want. I
really do not care whether you believe me or not. And I suppose
Monster Cable puts arrows on their cables for the fun of it. I wish I
knew how they figured out the polarity of their cables. For those who
are laughing and using their coax or sub cables, why not put the wire
in reverse of the arrows and see how your system sounds. I do not
think you will be laughing at me too long. Why should sub
manufacturers be bothered with putting a 180 degree phase switch on
their subs. Don't you think they know something is going on with the
relation of subwoofers and satellites. Did you ever think that cables
carrying digital data may have their own SIGNATURES affecting those
ones and zeros. Suppose I write CAT on a piece of paper and one of you
haw haw's write CAT on another piece of paper. Well, we both can read
the word CAT from each of our handwritings but the handwritings
themselves have different aspects on how the letters look from one
person to another. THINK ABOUT IT!!!!!

On 21 Nov 2006 10:17:59 -0800, "girdalia"
wrote:

For those who
are laughing and using their coax or sub cables, why not put the wire
in reverse of the arrows and see how your system sounds. I do not
think you will be laughing at me too long. Why should sub
manufacturers be bothered with putting a 180 degree phase switch on
their subs.

Hah! This has nothing to do with it. You are confusing a valid
phase/polarity issue regarding loudspeakers with cable construction
issues. Reverse the cables any time you want, the polarity of the
signal is unchanged. Now, why should I believe anything else you say?

Kal

"girdalia" wrote in message
oups.com...
To all those who are laughing at my article; Laugh all you want. I
really do not care whether you believe me or not. And I suppose
Monster Cable puts arrows on their cables for the fun of it. I wish I
knew how they figured out the polarity of their cables.

It wouldn't surprise me if "for the fun of it" is actually the correct
answer. The only thing more fun than charging people $50 for $5 worth of
wire is making them **believe** that they hear a difference.

For those who
are laughing and using their coax or sub cables, why not put the wire
in reverse of the arrows and see how your system sounds. I do not
think you will be laughing at me too long. Why should sub
manufacturers be bothered with putting a 180 degree phase switch on
their subs. Don't you think they know something is going on with the
relation of subwoofers and satellites.

It's statements like this that convince me you're having us all on. You do
understand that reversing the cable between the sub and the amp will not
change the phase relationship between the sub and the satellites, right?
That the switch in the sub reverses the +/- connections to the input, not
the "direction" of the cable, which "does* change the phase relationship
between the sub and the sats, right?

Did you ever think that cables
carrying digital data may have their own SIGNATURES affecting those
ones and zeros. Suppose I write CAT on a piece of paper and one of you
haw haw's write CAT on another piece of paper. Well, we both can read
the word CAT from each of our handwritings but the handwritings
themselves have different aspects on how the letters look from one
person to another. THINK ABOUT IT!!!!!

I do believe I see the face of Elvis in that rust stain, Alex. If I think
about it any more, it may start meowing.

RichC

We all make mistakes. Usually brought on by misimformation retrieved
from the web or just misinterpreting something we've been told. I've
been jumped on myself for spouting bull****. Go back, look it up, do
the research and move on. Not the end of the world and not worth
getting upset over.

For those who are still laughing at me and think you are right, you
can do whatever you want with your hometheater systems; that is your
own business, I do whatever I want with mine. People who know me by my
real name know better. Some of you may have not even been born or
being rocked in the crib when I began my official stint with home
theater in 1966. I have been playing with television sets starting in
1950 at the age of 4 when a b/w 10 inch set was a brouhaha for that
time. I farted around with audio mono and stereo sets during the 50s of
various kinds. More so than that I am an experimenter. I am telling
unselfishly what I found with my experimenting. You can believe or
disbelieve as you so choose.

ummm...... so........ what about my original question??~~ or do you all
just want to take it out in the alley and finish this???? This is
pretty sad wouldn't you think,,, to argue over a cable??
Thanks,
lofmarks

On 21 Nov 2006 18:43:44 -0800, "lofmark" wrote:

ummm...... so........ what about my original question??~~ or do you all
just want to take it out in the alley and finish this???? This is
pretty sad wouldn't you think,,, to argue over a cable??

Take a look at the preponderance of the comments. While there are
technical and minor performance issues, they are functionally
equivalent and, in the vast majority of cases, equal.

Kal

Kalman Rubinson wrote:
On 21 Nov 2006 18:43:44 -0800, "lofmark" wrote:

ummm...... so........ what about my original question??~~ or do you all
just want to take it out in the alley and finish this???? This is
pretty sad wouldn't you think,,, to argue over a cable??

Take a look at the preponderance of the comments. While there are
technical and minor performance issues, they are functionally
equivalent and, in the vast majority of cases, equal.

Kal

What he said... and I believe was already said.