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Old November 4th 06, 04:58 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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I've tried posting this to uk.tech.video.pvr with no response.
As this is a busier group, I thought I'd try again here.

Has anyone successfully managed to upgrade the hard disc drive to a larger
one?

I've tried Master and Cable Select to no avail
According to:

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Philips_DVDR_3...Review_5575984

it is possible - but how?


Thanks....
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Old November 4th 06, 05:24 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 15:58:19 +0000, BT Address
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I've tried posting this to uk.tech.video.pvr with no response.
As this is a busier group, I thought I'd try again here.

Has anyone successfully managed to upgrade the hard disc drive to a larger
one?


How big is the one you are trying to get working? Some PVRs will have
a limit of 137GB IIRC due to BIOS (?) limitations.


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Old November 5th 06, 01:57 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default Upgrading DVDR3300H hard disc drive

Nobody wrote:

On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 15:58:19 +0000, BT Address
wrote:

I've tried posting this to uk.tech.video.pvr with no response. As this
is a busier group, I thought I'd try again here.

Has anyone successfully managed to upgrade the hard disc drive to a
larger one?


How big is the one you are trying to get working? Some PVRs will have a
limit of 137GB IIRC due to BIOS (?) limitations.


200Gb. The Philips doesn't recognise the presense of the drive.
You can get 250Gb versons of the 3300, so I know it's not a BIOS limitation.

I did also try a 40Gb drive just in case!

I suspect there is a special HDD format, (I semember Sadie editors had that)
I'm reluctant to plug the present HDD into my PC in case it clears it and
I'm left with no HDD.
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Old November 5th 06, 03:16 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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I suspect there is a special HDD format, (I semember Sadie editors had that)
I'm reluctant to plug the present HDD into my PC in case it clears it and
I'm left with no HDD.


Hows it going to do that, unless you tell it to ?

Dave

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Old November 5th 06, 07:24 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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gort wrote:


I suspect there is a special HDD format, (I semember Sadie editors had
that) I'm reluctant to plug the present HDD into my PC in case it clears
it and I'm left with no HDD.


Hows it going to do that, unless you tell it to ?


You never heard of Windows then? :O)
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Old November 5th 06, 08:37 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:24:35 +0000, News Will wrote:

gort wrote:


I suspect there is a special HDD format, (I semember Sadie editors had
that) I'm reluctant to plug the present HDD into my PC in case it clears
it and I'm left with no HDD.


Hows it going to do that, unless you tell it to ?


You never heard of Windows then? :O)


Much as I despise windows, I have never known it to clear a hdd without
the involvement of finger dabbling from someone who does'nt know what they
are doing.

Dave

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Old November 6th 06, 07:22 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Well, now you can learn one more reason to despise it: just booting into
XP is enough for it splatter a crappy MS signature all over the MBR,
without asking or telling the user or giving them any chance to avoid it
until it's already too late. This can easily upset the original device
that owned and formatted the drive, especially if it's not a PC. In the
case of TiVo drives, someone wrote a utility to repair the damage:
http://www.upl.cs.wisc.edu/~will/tivo/

Even armed with that I wouldn't risk it, and I don't know of any repair
utilities for other PVRs and DVD recorders.

HTH


Thanks

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Old November 6th 06, 03:36 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Mike Henry wrote:
Much as I despise windows, I have never known it to clear a hdd
without the involvement of finger dabbling from someone who does'nt
know what they are doing.


Well, now you can learn one more reason to despise it: just booting
into XP is enough for it splatter a crappy MS signature all over the
MBR, without asking or telling the user or giving them any chance to
avoid it until it's already too late. This can easily upset the
original device that owned and formatted the drive, especially if
it's not a PC.


I don't get this. Surely the disk signature (and the MBR etc) are only
written when a disk is initialised. Normally you would only do this prior to
partitioning and formatting a new HDD for use in the PC in which you had
installed it. Why would you do this with a drive which you had removed from
a TiVo and intended to put back?

Are you saying that there are circumstances in which XP will initialise a
HDD with no user intervention?


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Old November 6th 06, 03:46 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 2006-11-06, Pyriform wrote:
Mike Henry wrote:
Much as I despise windows, I have never known it to clear a hdd
without the involvement of finger dabbling from someone who does'nt
know what they are doing.


Well, now you can learn one more reason to despise it: just booting
into XP is enough for it splatter a crappy MS signature all over the
MBR, without asking or telling the user or giving them any chance to
avoid it until it's already too late. This can easily upset the
original device that owned and formatted the drive, especially if
it's not a PC.


I don't get this. Surely the disk signature (and the MBR etc) are only
written when a disk is initialised. Normally you would only do this prior to
partitioning and formatting a new HDD for use in the PC in which you had
installed it. Why would you do this with a drive which you had removed from
a TiVo and intended to put back?

Are you saying that there are circumstances in which XP will initialise a
HDD with no user intervention?


That is precisely what he said. Whether it's true or not, I am uncertain.
But it wouldn't surprise me in the least.

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David Taylor
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Old November 6th 06, 04:00 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default Upgrading DVDR3300H hard disc drive

David Taylor wrote:
On 2006-11-06, Pyriform wrote:
Mike Henry wrote:
Much as I despise windows, I have never known it to clear a hdd
without the involvement of finger dabbling from someone who does'nt
know what they are doing.

Well, now you can learn one more reason to despise it: just booting
into XP is enough for it splatter a crappy MS signature all over the
MBR, without asking or telling the user or giving them any chance to
avoid it until it's already too late. This can easily upset the
original device that owned and formatted the drive, especially if
it's not a PC.


I don't get this. Surely the disk signature (and the MBR etc) are
only written when a disk is initialised. Normally you would only do
this prior to partitioning and formatting a new HDD for use in the
PC in which you had installed it. Why would you do this with a drive
which you had removed from a TiVo and intended to put back?

Are you saying that there are circumstances in which XP will
initialise a HDD with no user intervention?


That is precisely what he said. Whether it's true or not, I am
uncertain. But it wouldn't surprise me in the least.


It would surprise me, and I'm no great defender of Microsoft. I've manually
initialised disks, and I've connected drives from non-microsoft operating
systems and had them appear in the drive manager as "non-initialised", but
I've never seen one spontaneously initialise.

If there are circumstances where this can happen, I'd like to know what they
are, so I don't get caught out at some point in the future!


 




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