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i got hold of a BD -p1000 to test yesterday.
i have a sony 32" 's' series bravia HD READY lcd tv.
i have been into al things HD now for 12 months and was waiting with
baited breath to get my first fix of HD.

WHAT A LET DOWN.

picture quality was better than SD dont get me wrong, it was sharper,
cleaner and crisp but £999.99 better? NO SODDING
WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have today been posting on avs forum and most people are saying "no
wonder your not happy with HD, your tv is too small!!!!!!!!"

now, i can see that a 60"+ screen might have more 'impact' but who has
room for a tv that size.
also, think of all those poor sods who have bought 32" £1k+ tv's who
will be SERIOUSLY ****ED OFF WITH THIS NEW REVOLUTION' ( i won my 32"
bravia) thank god.

NEW REVOLUTION MY ARSE.

anyone who has not yet bought BD or HD DVD, dont bother, its 'dvd, but
slightly sharper'

12 months waiting for HD, i expected my mates to come round my house
and say " HOLY ****, I TAKE IT THAT IS HD, ITS AMAZING!"
in actual fact my mate said........
nothing, he didnt even notice that it was any different until i said "
mate, check the tv, THATS HD"
He said " uh, i thought by the way you were going on about it, it would
be amazing, i didnt even notice"

THANKS, RANT OVER
****a very dissapointed bloke******

wrote:
i got hold of a BD -p1000 to test yesterday.
i have a sony 32" 's' series bravia HD READY lcd tv.
i have been into al things HD now for 12 months and was waiting with
baited breath to get my first fix of HD.

WHAT A LET DOWN.

picture quality was better than SD dont get me wrong, it was sharper,
cleaner and crisp but £999.99 better? NO SODDING
WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have today been posting on avs forum and most people are saying "no
wonder your not happy with HD, your tv is too small!!!!!!!!"

now, i can see that a 60"+ screen might have more 'impact' but who has
room for a tv that size.
also, think of all those poor sods who have bought 32" £1k+ tv's who
will be SERIOUSLY ****ED OFF WITH THIS NEW REVOLUTION' ( i won my 32"
bravia) thank god.

NEW REVOLUTION MY ARSE.

anyone who has not yet bought BD or HD DVD, dont bother, its 'dvd, but
slightly sharper'

12 months waiting for HD, i expected my mates to come round my house
and say " HOLY ****, I TAKE IT THAT IS HD, ITS AMAZING!"
in actual fact my mate said........
nothing, he didnt even notice that it was any different until i said "
mate, check the tv, THATS HD"
He said " uh, i thought by the way you were going on about it, it would
be amazing, i didnt even notice"

THANKS, RANT OVER
****a very dissapointed bloke******

i was watching S.W.A.T by the way and i tried all resolutions 1080i,
720p and yes, my tv was set up correct and the player was set up
correct, before all the answers are " it wasnt set up correct"

On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 08:27:49 -0800, pickles_james wrote:

i was watching S.W.A.T by the way and i tried all resolutions 1080i,
720p and yes, my tv was set up correct and the player was set up
correct, before all the answers are " it wasnt set up correct"

Are you sure that you were getting an actual HD program, and not an SD
program over HD. Big difference. Even with the small 19" monitors I use in
the bedrooms, HD blows SD away. And it's not hard to tell the difference.
Isn't S.W.A.T an older show? Was it ever recorded in HD?

Christ man, that show is from the 70's. It's not HD.

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On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 08:27:49 -0800, pickles_james wrote:

i was watching S.W.A.T by the way and i tried all resolutions 1080i,
720p and yes, my tv was set up correct and the player was set up
correct, before all the answers are " it wasnt set up correct"

Are you sure that you were getting an actual HD program, and not an SD
program over HD. Big difference. Even with the small 19" monitors I use in
the bedrooms, HD blows SD away. And it's not hard to tell the difference.
Isn't S.W.A.T an older show? Was it ever recorded in HD?

Christ man, that show is from the 70's. It's not HD.

70's show, but 9/19/2006 Bluray release. SD counterpart was released in 2k3.

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To respond to the original poster, yes, the larger the screen, the more
dramatic the difference between SD and HD. Having said that, you should
realize the following:

a.) you're an early adopter which means you'll pay more for potentially a
work in progress
b.) you have no idea how much or how little time and attention to detail the
studio may have invested in the Blu-ray transfer of S.W.A.T.
c.) your BD-P1000 had a firmware update a couple of weeks ago. Did you
update your player?
d.) the native resolution of a 32" Bravia is 1366 x 768. 1080P is 1920 x
1080.

You may very well have a legitimate reason to be underwhelmed, but I just
don't believe it's as cut and dry as your original post. fwiw...

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wrote:
i got hold of a BD -p1000 to test yesterday.
i have a sony 32" 's' series bravia HD READY lcd tv.
i have been into al things HD now for 12 months and was waiting with
baited breath to get my first fix of HD.

WHAT A LET DOWN.

picture quality was better than SD dont get me wrong, it was sharper,
cleaner and crisp but £999.99 better? NO SODDING
WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have today been posting on avs forum and most people are saying "no
wonder your not happy with HD, your tv is too small!!!!!!!!"

now, i can see that a 60"+ screen might have more 'impact' but who has
room for a tv that size.
also, think of all those poor sods who have bought 32" £1k+ tv's who
will be SERIOUSLY ****ED OFF WITH THIS NEW REVOLUTION' ( i won my 32"
bravia) thank god.

NEW REVOLUTION MY ARSE.

anyone who has not yet bought BD or HD DVD, dont bother, its 'dvd, but
slightly sharper'

12 months waiting for HD, i expected my mates to come round my house
and say " HOLY ****, I TAKE IT THAT IS HD, ITS AMAZING!"
in actual fact my mate said........
nothing, he didnt even notice that it was any different until i said "
mate, check the tv, THATS HD"
He said " uh, i thought by the way you were going on about it, it would
be amazing, i didnt even notice"

THANKS, RANT OVER
****a very dissapointed bloke******

i was watching S.W.A.T by the way and i tried all resolutions 1080i,
720p and yes, my tv was set up correct and the player was set up
correct, before all the answers are " it wasnt set up correct"

There is a SWAT Blu-Ray DVD.

Read the S&V Mag review of the player:

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/art...1&print_page=y

See the bottom line paragraph.

You want real HD, then you need an OTA, cable or sat source. I have OTA
and it really does look a hell of a lot better, especially for sports.

Forget DVDs until the format war is over.

Just my 2 cents. whosbest54
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I notice you used the "Pounds Sterling" symbol
for the pricing point in your posting.Are you in the UK? I am not sure
that the Euro version of HD is as quite as good as the US version.It
also explains probably why you are watching 30+ year old remastered US
originated shows.

i won my 32"
bravia) thank god.

hi which comp did you entere to win the TV?

I only ask because I do competitions as a hobby.

I won a 32 inch Sony Plasma Tv in 2002(worth then £3.5k)
ans picture quality wa excellent (not HD)

I am trying to win a new one, and like you woukd expect a lot for my money.
Maybe it is not set up properly?

good luck

paul

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wrote:
i got hold of a BD -p1000 to test yesterday.
i have a sony 32" 's' series bravia HD READY lcd tv.
i have been into al things HD now for 12 months and was waiting with
baited breath to get my first fix of HD.

WHAT A LET DOWN.

picture quality was better than SD dont get me wrong, it was sharper,
cleaner and crisp but £999.99 better? NO SODDING
WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have today been posting on avs forum and most people are saying "no
wonder your not happy with HD, your tv is too small!!!!!!!!"

now, i can see that a 60"+ screen might have more 'impact' but who has
room for a tv that size.
also, think of all those poor sods who have bought 32" £1k+ tv's who
will be SERIOUSLY ****ED OFF WITH THIS NEW REVOLUTION' ( i won my 32"
bravia) thank god.

NEW REVOLUTION MY ARSE.

anyone who has not yet bought BD or HD DVD, dont bother, its 'dvd, but
slightly sharper'

12 months waiting for HD, i expected my mates to come round my house
and say " HOLY ****, I TAKE IT THAT IS HD, ITS AMAZING!"
in actual fact my mate said........
nothing, he didnt even notice that it was any different until i said "
mate, check the tv, THATS HD"
He said " uh, i thought by the way you were going on about it, it would
be amazing, i didnt even notice"

THANKS, RANT OVER
****a very dissapointed bloke******

i was watching S.W.A.T by the way and i tried all resolutions 1080i,
720p and yes, my tv was set up correct and the player was set up
correct, before all the answers are " it wasnt set up correct"


basically you have discovered the truth of HD - if you are not
watching it on a 50 or more inch screen it means squat - the human eye
can not resolve the difference.

Wes Newell wrote:

On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 08:27:49 -0800, pickles_james wrote:

i was watching S.W.A.T by the way and i tried all resolutions 1080i,
720p and yes, my tv was set up correct and the player was set up
correct, before all the answers are " it wasnt set up correct"

Are you sure that you were getting an actual HD program, and not an SD
program over HD. Big difference. Even with the small 19" monitors I use in
the bedrooms, HD blows SD away. And it's not hard to tell the difference.
Isn't S.W.A.T an older show? Was it ever recorded in HD?

Christ man, that show is from the 70's. It's not HD.

Well yes, he is probably a member of JQP, does not and really has no
reason to know, all the differences, because if he does not have the
room and money for a TV bigger than 50 inches, he does not need HD -
the setup he has is a great choice for him.

You have a HD capable 19 inch monitor,,?? Please name the brand, and
the drugs that you take when you think you can resolve the difference
between HD and SD on such a set up.

so how is living on all that "interest" you "earned" on all that money
you"paid" into SS going,,,?

and that Health Insurance payment,,how is that 2 grand a month going,
should be no problem paying that on all that interest ?

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i was watching S.W.A.T

You need some *true HD goodness* to enjoy and appreciate the
difference.

SWAT may have been remastered, but I erally erally *really*
doubt that the ersulting quality is anywhere near the
mind-blowing quality of some HD shows.

And I'm watching it on a 42", just EDTV, not even HDTV, and
really, the difference is amazing!! (for the $0 difference!!!
I got my 32" Panasonic CRT some 7 years ago for CAD$ 1500,
and I just got the Panasonic 42 Plasma EDTV, which is 854x480,
for CAD$ 1490)

Make sure the adjustments are ok (not just the resolution; the
brightness/black-level/color levels) --- from what I hear, LCDs
tend to have too vivid colors but not-quite-black blacks (I
myself am drawn to high-contrast, film-noir kind of films, with
abundand dark scenes, so for me, it's obviously the Plasma way).

I'm telling you, I just got this baby, not even HD --- just 480
progressive ---, and the screen freeze from shows like Supernatural
(filmed and produced in HD) freaking look like a picture taken
with a Digital SLR camera!! (yea, I know, I'm going to setup an
appointment with the optometrist! :-))

Carlos
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