2 Boxes, 2 aerials?

Rory wrote:
Dave Fawthrop wrote:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:57:58 +0000, Richard Oliver
wrote:

Rory wrote:
Hi, I've been told by my local electronics shed that if I want to
run 2 set top boxes in my household I'm going to have to install
an aerial for each on the roof.

I think you will find that they are wrong - name the shed here.

Also write to the Managing Director of the shed, they are conning
you, I have four or five TVs running on one aerial.

Thanks for all the replies, most encouraging because there are a few
TVs
in this shared house and we would like to run at least 2.
The shop is a small independent in Bristol who I can't normally fault
(Target Electronics) but I guess the guy was mistaken here. He did
say I would need satellite grade 100ohm coax and for a maximum of
20mtrs of
this and a good aerial I would be paying around £50; sound reasonable
or should I go elsewhere?
Regards
Rory

He was wrong about the coax as well, that would be 75 ohm.
--
Adrian

Adrian A wrote:
Rory wrote:
The shop is a small independent in Bristol who I can't normally
fault (Target Electronics) but I guess the guy was mistaken here.
He did say I would need satellite grade 100ohm coax and for a
maximum of 20mtrs of this and a good aerial I would be paying
around £50; sound reasonable or should I go elsewhere?

He was wrong about the coax as well, that would be 75 ohm.

Yes, it should be 75 ohm, of course, and I agree with Rory's
assessment that Target Electronics are normally reliable and helpful
(and I would never have thought of describing them as a "shed").

I wonder *exactly* what the guy at Target Electronics *said* and what
Rory is remembering. Did he perhaps suggest that you *consider* a
separate aerial for each box? I would cheerfully agree with that
suggestion - depending on the exact layout of your house, where the
boxes/tvs are and how the cables might run. If you are in a difficult
reception area (and Bristol is not without these :-( ), then separate
feeds may well be a better solution than a masthead amplifier which
you might otherwise need.

André Coutanche

In message , Rory
wrote
Dave Fawthrop wrote:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:57:58 +0000, Richard Oliver
wrote:

|Rory wrote:
| Hi, I've been told by my local electronics shed that if I want to
|run 2 set top boxes in my household I'm going to have to install
|an aerial for each on the roof.
|
|I think you will find that they are wrong - name the shed here.
Also write to the Managing Director of the shed, they are conning
you, I
have four or five TVs running on one aerial.

Thanks for all the replies, most encouraging because there are a few
TVs in this shared house and we would like to run at least 2.
The shop is a small independent in Bristol who I can't normally fault
(Target Electronics) but I guess the guy was mistaken here. He did say
I would need satellite grade 100ohm coax and for a maximum of 20mtrs of
this and a good aerial

You can have a single aerial and you may need a (masthead) amplifier if
passive splitters give too much signal attenuation. My solution was to
put a distribution amplifier in the loft and run 4 separate cables from
the amp to each of the rooms where I wanted a TV point..

You may mean CT100 and not 100 Ohm cable You should fit a good quality
satellite cable such as CT100 not only for the distance but a cable such
as CT100 (or equivalent) is much better screened than the a lot of
cable sold for aerial down leads. You will have fewer interference
problems from for domestic equipment or traffic passing by. With
terrestrial digital TV interference will cause your picture to
completely break up or you may lose it for a few seconds whereas with
analogue the same interference may just cause white spots or lines on
your TV picture. Often digital doesn't degrade in progressive way - it's
often all or nothing.

See Bill's article on cable at
http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/coaxcablequalityhmdim.htm


With regards aerials, where do you live, from which transmitter are you
getting your signals and what aerial are you thinking of buying?

Go to
http://www.wolfbane.com/cgi-bin/tvd.exe?
and type in your postcode

You will be presented with a list of transmitters and in the suggested
aerial group/type (Columns headed Gp and Antenna suggestion)


I would be paying around £50; sound reasonable or should I go
elsewhere?

What are you getting for £50?
I assume it doesn't cover the cost of fitting the aerial.

--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 18:40:38 GMT, Rory wrote:

|Dave Fawthrop wrote:
| On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:57:58 +0000, Richard Oliver
| wrote:
|
| |Rory wrote:
| | Hi, I've been told by my local electronics shed that if I want to run 2
| | set top boxes in my household I'm going to have to install an aerial for
| | each on the roof.
| |
| |I think you will find that they are wrong - name the shed here.
|
| Also write to the Managing Director of the shed, they are conning you, I
| have four or five TVs running on one aerial.
|
|Thanks for all the replies, most encouraging because there are a few TVs
|in this shared house and we would like to run at least 2.
|The shop is a small independent in Bristol who I can't normally fault
|(Target Electronics) but I guess the guy was mistaken here. He did say I
|would need satellite grade 100ohm coax and for a maximum of 20mtrs of
|this and a good aerial I would be paying around ?50; sound reasonable or
|should I go elsewhere?

Go elsewhere you need *75ohm* coax. Satellite grade is a good suggestion,
and you should plan the route of the cable and buy enough plus a couple of
metres spare in case Sods Law gets you.
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will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies.

Dave Fawthrop wrote:

Go elsewhere you need *75ohm* coax. Satellite grade is a good
suggestion, and you should plan the route of the cable and buy enough
plus a couple of metres spare in case Sods Law gets you.

In case??? You mean there are times when it doesn't? :-o

--
Jeff
(cut "thetape" to reply)

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:32:16 GMT, Rory wrote:

Hi, I've been told by my local electronics shed that if I want to run 2
set top boxes in my household I'm going to have to install an aerial for
each on the roof. Is there any way round this as I'm not even sure
there's enough room on the chimney for 2 (let alone the extra cost and
time involved)?

I see others have already told you this is nonsense, but I think it's
also worth pointing out that if the receivers are close together you
may not even need a distribution amplifier. I have three digital
receiver/recorders on the same shelf with a single aerial feed looped
through all of them, and until recently it was also looped through a
VHS machine, then across the room to the analogue tuner of my TV set,
and everything works perfectly.

Rod.

"Rory" wrote in message
. uk...
Hi, I've been told by my local electronics shed that if I want to run 2
set top boxes in my household I'm going to have to install an aerial for
each on the roof. Is there any way round this as I'm not even sure there's
enough room on the chimney for 2 (let alone the extra cost and time
involved)?
Regards
Rory

I've got 4 freeview boxes on one aerial. The aerial is plugged in to a
cheap distribution amp and then cables go off to each. A VHF and DAB aerial
is also plugged in so it also allows each outlet to have either DAB or VHF
tuners plugged in.
The local shop has misunderstood.

"Rory" wrote in message
. uk...
Dave Fawthrop wrote:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:57:58 +0000, Richard Oliver
wrote:

|Rory wrote:
| Hi, I've been told by my local electronics shed that if I want to run
2 | set top boxes in my household I'm going to have to install an aerial
for | each on the roof. |
|I think you will find that they are wrong - name the shed here.

Also write to the Managing Director of the shed, they are conning you, I
have four or five TVs running on one aerial.

Thanks for all the replies, most encouraging because there are a few TVs
in this shared house and we would like to run at least 2.
The shop is a small independent in Bristol who I can't normally fault
(Target Electronics) but I guess the guy was mistaken here. He did say I
would need satellite grade 100ohm coax and for a maximum of 20mtrs of this
and a good aerial I would be paying around £50; sound reasonable or should
I go elsewhere?
Regards
Rory

Oh christ! It's 75ohm coax you need. I bought 100m for £13-75 in a local
electrical wholesalers. Aerials to distribution amp = 10m, two runs of 25m,
one 15m and another 5m. No problem here!

"Rory" wrote in message
. uk...
Hi, I've been told by my local electronics shed that if I want to run 2
set top boxes in my household I'm going to have to install an aerial for
each on the roof.

Then that does mean that a tower block with 115 apartments is obliged to
have 115 aerials on the roof? Ich don't think so!

If you are in an area where the signal is weak to begin with, then dividing
the signal will reduce the signal. However, amplification is possible in
this scenario.


--
MESSAGE ENDS.
John Porcella

André Coutanche wrote:
Adrian A wrote:
Rory wrote:
The shop is a small independent in Bristol who I can't normally
fault (Target Electronics) but I guess the guy was mistaken here.
He did say I would need satellite grade 100ohm coax and for a
maximum of 20mtrs of this and a good aerial I would be paying
around £50; sound reasonable or should I go elsewhere?

He was wrong about the coax as well, that would be 75 ohm.

Yes, it should be 75 ohm, of course, and I agree with Rory's
assessment that Target Electronics are normally reliable and helpful
(and I would never have thought of describing them as a "shed").

I wonder *exactly* what the guy at Target Electronics *said* and what
Rory is remembering. Did he perhaps suggest that you *consider* a
separate aerial for each box? I would cheerfully agree with that
suggestion - depending on the exact layout of your house, where the
boxes/tvs are and how the cables might run. If you are in a difficult
reception area (and Bristol is not without these :-( ), then separate
feeds may well be a better solution than a masthead amplifier which
you might otherwise need.

André Coutanche

I thought after I posted the shop may have said CT100 or similar and the OP
misunderstood.
--
Adrian