What DTV tuner for PC?

I've had a Nebula for a while now, but I've got two problems with it.
The software seems to make my PC unstable, I often get Desktop icons
vanishing, and secondly it won't fit in my new PC case unless I remove
the motherboard first (one of the antenna sockets fouls the case).

My requirements a

Watch & record DTV
Timer, preferably one that wakes up the PC
Burn DVD with recorded files without having to mess about!
PCI, PCIe, or USB connection
7-day EPG, preferably linked to timer
Windows Vista compatibility in the future
It would be nice if it could handle HDTV, if this exists on FreeView?

When I bought my Nebula, it was highly thought of in this group. What
is the current favourite that hopefully meets my requirement?

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Nigel M

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:38:47 -0000, Nigel Molesworth wrote:

I've had a Nebula for a while now, but I've got two problems with it.
The software seems to make my PC unstable, I often get Desktop icons
vanishing, and secondly it won't fit in my new PC case unless I remove
the motherboard first (one of the antenna sockets fouls the case).

My requirements a

Watch & record DTV
Timer, preferably one that wakes up the PC
Burn DVD with recorded files without having to mess about!
PCI, PCIe, or USB connection
7-day EPG, preferably linked to timer
Windows Vista compatibility in the future
It would be nice if it could handle HDTV, if this exists on FreeView?

When I bought my Nebula, it was highly thought of in this group. What
is the current favourite that hopefully meets my requirement?

Avoid anything made by KWorld as the crap software makes their products
almost unusable and the Artec T1 has rather poor software as well, although
it at least works reasonably well.

Fred X

"Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
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I've had a Nebula for a while now, but I've got two problems with it.
The software seems to make my PC unstable, I often get Desktop icons
vanishing, and secondly it won't fit in my new PC case unless I remove
the motherboard first (one of the antenna sockets fouls the case).

My requirements a

Watch & record DTV
Timer, preferably one that wakes up the PC
Burn DVD with recorded files without having to mess about!
PCI, PCIe, or USB connection
7-day EPG, preferably linked to timer
Windows Vista compatibility in the future
It would be nice if it could handle HDTV, if this exists on FreeView?

When I bought my Nebula, it was highly thought of in this group. What
is the current favourite that hopefully meets my requirement?

--
Nigel M

I have no experiance of any PCI DVB tuner apart from
my Hauppauge DVB-T card. It is excellent in all respects
but to answer a couple of your questions.
The 7-day epg is not free but via tvtv.com
All freeview cards will handle HDTV when it becomes available,
that job will be down to your graphics card to display on large
screen via DVI or HDMI.
The important issue for me was that at last with the latest
hauppage updates, the TS mpeg2s it produces are now
fully compatible with my Nero7 burning software -
I had been using vidomi and ulead to edit/burn to dvd.
Also, both Ulead version 10, and Roxio videowave are now
able to capture DVB streams, and the hauppauge is listed
as compatible with both applications, though neither of these
snazzy video capture/editing tools are cheap!

"Fred X" wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:38:47 -0000, Nigel Molesworth
wrote:

I've had a Nebula for a while now, but I've got two problems with it.
The software seems to make my PC unstable, I often get Desktop icons
vanishing, and secondly it won't fit in my new PC case unless I remove
the motherboard first (one of the antenna sockets fouls the case).

My requirements a

Watch & record DTV
Timer, preferably one that wakes up the PC
Burn DVD with recorded files without having to mess about!
PCI, PCIe, or USB connection
7-day EPG, preferably linked to timer
Windows Vista compatibility in the future
It would be nice if it could handle HDTV, if this exists on FreeView?

When I bought my Nebula, it was highly thought of in this group. What
is the current favourite that hopefully meets my requirement?

Avoid anything made by KWorld as the crap software makes their products
almost unusable and the Artec T1 has rather poor software as well,
although
it at least works reasonably well.

Fred X



Kworld DVBT pci card works great with Kaffeine. Very usable in my
experience.

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On 29 Oct,
FFS wrote:


"Fred X" wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:38:47 -0000, Nigel Molesworth
wrote:

I've had a Nebula for a while now, but I've got two problems with it.
The software seems to make my PC unstable, I often get Desktop icons
vanishing, and secondly it won't fit in my new PC case unless I remove
the motherboard first (one of the antenna sockets fouls the case).

My requirements a

Watch & record DTV
Timer, preferably one that wakes up the PC
Burn DVD with recorded files without having to mess about!
PCI, PCIe, or USB connection
7-day EPG, preferably linked to timer
Windows Vista compatibility in the future
It would be nice if it could handle HDTV, if this exists on FreeView?

When I bought my Nebula, it was highly thought of in this group. What
is the current favourite that hopefully meets my requirement?

Avoid anything made by KWorld as the crap software makes their products
almost unusable and the Artec T1 has rather poor software as well,
although
it at least works reasonably well.

Fred X



Kworld DVBT pci card works great with Kaffeine. Very usable in my
experience.

Mine works very well with MythTV. Much better than under windows.



Which basically confirms that a lot of the drivers/tv apps for Windows are
rubbish.

Bruce S.

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FFS wrote:
"Fred X" wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:38:47 -0000, Nigel Molesworth
wrote:

I've had a Nebula for a while now, but I've got two problems with it.
The software seems to make my PC unstable, I often get Desktop icons
vanishing, and secondly it won't fit in my new PC case unless I remove
the motherboard first (one of the antenna sockets fouls the case).

How does it make your PC unstable apart from the weird icons thing?

My requirements a

Watch & record DTV
Timer, preferably one that wakes up the PC
Burn DVD with recorded files without having to mess about!
PCI, PCIe, or USB connection
7-day EPG, preferably linked to timer
Windows Vista compatibility in the future
It would be nice if it could handle HDTV, if this exists on FreeView?

When I bought my Nebula, it was highly thought of in this group. What
is the current favourite that hopefully meets my requirement?

Still the Nebula I think although the Twinham is well spoken of. I'd still avoid
Hauppauge although apparently it's fairly bug free compared to how it was for a
long time.

Avoid anything made by KWorld as the crap software makes their products
almost unusable and the Artec T1 has rather poor software as well,
although
it at least works reasonably well.

Fred X



Kworld DVBT pci card works great with Kaffeine. Very usable in my
experience.

Although the OP didn't mention linux that is a good point.

Bruce Stewart wrote:
wrote:

On 29 Oct,
FFS wrote:

"Fred X" wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:38:47 -0000, Nigel Molesworth
wrote:

I've had a Nebula for a while now, but I've got two problems with it.
The software seems to make my PC unstable, I often get Desktop icons
vanishing, and secondly it won't fit in my new PC case unless I remove
the motherboard first (one of the antenna sockets fouls the case).

My requirements a

Watch & record DTV
Timer, preferably one that wakes up the PC
Burn DVD with recorded files without having to mess about!
PCI, PCIe, or USB connection
7-day EPG, preferably linked to timer
Windows Vista compatibility in the future
It would be nice if it could handle HDTV, if this exists on FreeView?

When I bought my Nebula, it was highly thought of in this group. What
is the current favourite that hopefully meets my requirement?
Avoid anything made by KWorld as the crap software makes their products
almost unusable and the Artec T1 has rather poor software as well,
although
it at least works reasonably well.

Fred X


Kworld DVBT pci card works great with Kaffeine. Very usable in my
experience.

Mine works very well with MythTV. Much better than under windows.



Which basically confirms that a lot of the drivers/tv apps for Windows are
rubbish.

Bruce S.

There are some very poor quality apps out there wether or not the hardware is
any good although there are now some cards with good software (e.g. nebula,
twinhan). There are a lot of good third party/freeware apps though.