Television X PID's

Dave Farrance Wrote:
Cuzman wrote:
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Ian wrote:

" Try 0x0021 "


In the "PCR PID"? How do you input an "x" on the Toppy?-

It's programmerese. "0x" means that hexadecimal digits follow.

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Dave Farrance

I also have a Topfield TF5800 and I have no sound no matter which value
I have used for the PCR PID, I have tried 0x0021 which is of course 0033
in decimal and this does not work either.

Regards, Welshman..




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Welshman

"Welshman" wrote in message
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Dave Farrance Wrote:
Cuzman wrote:
-
Ian wrote:

" Try 0x0021 "


In the "PCR PID"? How do you input an "x" on the Toppy?-

It's programmerese. "0x" means that hexadecimal digits follow.
I also have a Topfield TF5800 and I have no sound no matter which value
I have used for the PCR PID, I have tried 0x0021 which is of course 0033
in decimal and this does not work either.

What do you need sound for anyway? It's only 'oohs' and 'aahs'.

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Max Demian

Max Demian wrote:
"Welshman" wrote in message
...
Dave Farrance Wrote:
Cuzman wrote:
-
Ian wrote:

" Try 0x0021 "


In the "PCR PID"? How do you input an "x" on the Toppy?-

It's programmerese. "0x" means that hexadecimal digits follow.
I also have a Topfield TF5800 and I have no sound no matter which value
I have used for the PCR PID, I have tried 0x0021 which is of course 0033
in decimal and this does not work either.

What do you need sound for anyway? It's only 'oohs' and 'aahs'.

If 'because it is there' is a good enough reason to climb Everest,
because it isn't there is a good enough reason to seek out Television
X's missing audio.

I'd probably delete the damned channel once I'd figured out how to
receive it - if one wants porn, one has the Internet, that being its
principal function.

This is now yet another problem on my unsolved list. I'm hoping I don't
have to buy a PC DVB decoder to investigate further. Does no one have a
solution?

For the benefit of other posters, to manually tune the Toppy (hello Mr
Pyri - slap away while the channel is broadcasting:

Menu - Installation - Service Search

Set:
Mode to Advanced
Channel to that for Mux A (same number as for Ch 5)
PIDs - specify each using its decimal value, then save

Start Search. Accept found results & view. Note, IME the result is given
an LCN of 5 thus clashes with Ch 5 screwing up the EPG. Not an issue if
one deletes/retunes the channel on each viewing, otherwise requires a
workaround.

Re PIDs, the only ones consistently mentioned that I can find a
video 5377
audio 7078
pcr 2842

though pcr of 33 gives similar results.

In all cases, best result seems to be video but no audio.

I don't know if this is a Toppy issue or if it could be a consequence of
audio pid depending on transmitter.

Are any other pay channels broadcast similarly without encryption? Out
of interest, does viewing these without a subscription break any
criminal or civil laws? The lack of encryption seems idiotic in the
extreme. People are amusing.

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Peter Purr

wrote:
On 19-Oct-2006, Peter Purr wrote:

Re PIDs, the only ones consistently mentioned that I can find a
video 5377
audio 7078
pcr 2842

though pcr of 33 gives similar results.

In all cases, best result seems to be video but no audio.

I don't know if this is a Toppy issue or if it could be a consequence
of
audio pid depending on transmitter.


Cannot find audio either. I am using a Nebula card so it is not a
Topfield specific issue.

Thanks for that feedback.

Isn't there PC software though which will search muxs looking for pids,
or does this exclude so called hidden pids? That's one of the reasons I
was considering investigating a PC solution. I don't know much about
this since it's only this thread which has informed me of the existence
of such daft unencrypted pay tv.

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Peter Purr

In message ,
writes

On 19-Oct-2006, Peter Purr wrote:

Re PIDs, the only ones consistently mentioned that I can find a
video 5377
audio 7078
pcr 2842

though pcr of 33 gives similar results.

In all cases, best result seems to be video but no audio.

I don't know if this is a Toppy issue or if it could be a consequence
of
audio pid depending on transmitter.


Cannot find audio either. I am using a Nebula card so it is not a
Topfield specific issue.
With the Nebula, you have to have TV X in your favourites, and change
from that to your custom channel.

If you're like me, you'll enjoy having hacked it, and then remove it
because it's crap.
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Ian

"Peter Purr" wrote in message
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Max Demian wrote:
"Welshman" wrote in message
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Dave Farrance Wrote:
Cuzman wrote:
-
Ian wrote:

" Try 0x0021 "


In the "PCR PID"? How do you input an "x" on the Toppy?-

It's programmerese. "0x" means that hexadecimal digits follow.
I also have a Topfield TF5800 and I have no sound no matter which value
I have used for the PCR PID, I have tried 0x0021 which is of course 0033
in decimal and this does not work either.

What do you need sound for anyway? It's only 'oohs' and 'aahs'.

If 'because it is there' is a good enough reason to climb Everest, because
it isn't there is a good enough reason to seek out Television X's missing
audio.

I'd probably delete the damned channel once I'd figured out how to receive
it - if one wants porn, one has the Internet, that being its principal
function.

This is now yet another problem on my unsolved list. I'm hoping I don't
have to buy a PC DVB decoder to investigate further. Does no one have a
solution?

For the benefit of other posters, to manually tune the Toppy (hello Mr
Pyri - slap away while the channel is broadcasting:

Menu - Installation - Service Search

Set:
Mode to Advanced
Channel to that for Mux A (same number as for Ch 5)
PIDs - specify each using its decimal value, then save

Start Search. Accept found results & view. Note, IME the result is given
an LCN of 5 thus clashes with Ch 5 screwing up the EPG. Not an issue if
one deletes/retunes the channel on each viewing, otherwise requires a
workaround.

Re PIDs, the only ones consistently mentioned that I can find a
video 5377
audio 7078
pcr 2842

though pcr of 33 gives similar results.

In all cases, best result seems to be video but no audio.

I don't know if this is a Toppy issue or if it could be a consequence of
audio pid depending on transmitter.

Are any other pay channels broadcast similarly without encryption? Out of
interest, does viewing these without a subscription break any criminal or
civil laws? The lack of encryption seems idiotic in the extreme. People
are amusing.

I think Setanta Sports on LCN 34 works in a similar way. I think it's the
only way to restrict reception without the use of a subscription card, and
it's effective with most Freeview boxes as they don't allow the entry of
PIDs.

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Max Demian

Peter Purr Wrote: [color=blue][i]
Max Demian wrote:

Re PIDs, the only ones consistently mentioned that I can find a
video 5377
audio 7078
pcr 2842

though pcr of 33 gives similar results.

In all cases, best result seems to be video but no audio.

I don't know if this is a Toppy issue or if it could be a consequence
of
audio pid depending on transmitter.

--
Peter Purr


As well as the Topfield TF5800 I have a Twinhan DTT card in one of my
computers, the sound works fine with the above PIDs ... and yes I agree
that it is just another problem to crack thats why I want to do it.

Regards, Welshman..




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Welshman

Peter Purr wrote:
wrote:
On 19-Oct-2006, Peter Purr wrote:

Re PIDs, the only ones consistently mentioned that I can find a
video 5377
audio 7078
pcr 2842

though pcr of 33 gives similar results.

In all cases, best result seems to be video but no audio.

I don't know if this is a Toppy issue or if it could be a consequence
of
audio pid depending on transmitter.


Cannot find audio either. I am using a Nebula card so it is not a
Topfield specific issue.

Thanks for that feedback.

Isn't there PC software though which will search muxs looking for pids,
or does this exclude so called hidden pids? That's one of the reasons I
was considering investigating a PC solution. I don't know much about
this since it's only this thread which has informed me of the existence
of such daft unencrypted pay tv.

TSREADERLITE (Google it) work a treat with the Nebula.
Z.

insert name here wrote:

Peter Purr wrote:

Isn't there PC software though which will search muxs looking for
pids, or does this exclude so called hidden pids? That's one of the
reasons I was considering investigating a PC solution. I don't know
much about this since it's only this thread which has informed me of
the existence of such daft unencrypted pay tv.

TSREADERLITE (Google it) work a treat with the Nebula.

Thanks. Probably will look into this as been meaning to add DVB support
to a machine or two for a while & this is as good an excuse as any to
buy some new toys.

Someone shout at me if I'm wrong, but of the two names Hauppauge &
Nebula, Nebula is the better choice isn't it?

googles

A summary answer to my own question seems to be most of the hardware is
much of a muchness. Get something with BDA drivers if using third party
software (say an open source linux solution); if going with native
software, Nebula wins hands down.

That sound about right?

Anyone here prefer PCI over USB? I generally do, but the choice probably
isn't rational in cases other than high bandwidth applications. DVB
seems to be going USB rather heavily, simply going on product ranges
available.

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Peter Purr

wrote in message
...

On 19-Oct-2006, Peter Purr wrote:

Re PIDs, the only ones consistently mentioned that I can find a
video 5377
audio 7078
pcr 2842

though pcr of 33 gives similar results.

In all cases, best result seems to be video but no audio.

I don't know if this is a Toppy issue or if it could be a consequence
of
audio pid depending on transmitter.


Cannot find audio either. I am using a Nebula card so it is not a
Topfield specific issue.

I can explain how to find the audio on a Nebula card (but NOT how
the effect has been achieved)! On my Nebula card tuning DIRECTLY
to a (manually entered) TVX channel (created using the Pids
specified here) also gives the result of "picture but no sound".

If, however, one goes to the "Television X" channel in the programme
listing FIRST (this brings up no audio and the MHEG banner) and
THEN tunes to the TVX manually entered channel there is BOTH
audio and video!

My questions are "how is audio muted on the "Television X" channel
until purchased???" and "why does going to this channel first
make a difference to the manually tuned TVX channel????"





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