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Old October 1st 06, 02:41 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Geoff Lane
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Whilst on a recent holiday in Wales I noticed a couple of strange
shaped aeials.

Number one www.3lanes.dsl.pipex.com/temp/aerial1.jpg was noticed on a
few rooftops in Aberyswyth, West Wales. No idea what this relates to.

Number two www.3lanes.dsl.pipex.com/temp/aerial2.jpg I suspect is a
flat version of a conventional yagi or log but that is only a guess.

Any enlightenment would be appreciated.

Geoff Lane

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Old October 1st 06, 02:45 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dr. francois Duvalier
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Geoff Lane wrote:
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Number one is a discone, used to be used with scanners.
Number two looks like a bit like my tv aerial, wideband grid?




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Old October 1st 06, 03:14 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article ,
Geoff Lane wrote:
Whilst on a recent holiday in Wales I noticed a couple of strange
shaped aeials.


Number one www.3lanes.dsl.pipex.com/temp/aerial1.jpg was noticed on a
few rooftops in Aberyswyth, West Wales. No idea what this relates to.


It's called "discone" and usaully used by people who scan the airwaves
across the vhf and uhf spectrum.


Number two www.3lanes.dsl.pipex.com/temp/aerial2.jpg I suspect is a
flat version of a conventional yagi or log but that is only a guess.


A 'grid' type of uhf aerial. It was 4 phased dipoles, one above the other.
I only know of two makes, Wolsey & Triax and it doesn't quite seem like
either that I know, but it might be an older Wolsey, which got discontinued
"because the trade found it too ruggged and they didn't get enought call
backs".


Any enlightenment would be appreciated.


Hope this helps

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Old October 1st 06, 03:30 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Geoff Lane" wrote in message
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Whilst on a recent holiday in Wales I noticed a couple of strange
shaped aeials.

Number one www.3lanes.dsl.pipex.com/temp/aerial1.jpg was noticed on a
few rooftops in Aberyswyth, West Wales. No idea what this relates to.

Number two www.3lanes.dsl.pipex.com/temp/aerial2.jpg I suspect is a
flat version of a conventional yagi or log but that is only a guess.

Any enlightenment would be appreciated.

Geoff Lane

As others have said, discone and grid aerial. Some discones can be used to
transmit on amateur bands 2m and 70cm so are ideal if space is limited.
Performance will not be that good. I am not sure why anyone would want a
scanner now unless they just listen to taxi firms, aircraft or wannabe
police men at shopping centres. Everything else hs gone digital.
The Grid aerial is OK but performance again is not too good for fringe
areas. After a while they go corroded and need a good cleaning. One that
Tandy sold before it shut down still works here. Signal strength is OK for
analogue but not for digital due to the lower transmit power. It is good at
stopping problems from a transmitter in the opposite direction from the one
being used!


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Old October 1st 06, 03:44 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Paul wrote:
"Geoff Lane" wrote in message


Number one www.3lanes.dsl.pipex.com/temp/aerial1.jpg was noticed on a
few rooftops in Aberyswyth, West Wales. No idea what this relates to.


As others have said, discone and grid aerial. Some discones can be used to
transmit on amateur bands 2m and 70cm so are ideal if space is limited.
Performance will not be that good. I am not sure why anyone would want a
scanner now unless they just listen to taxi firms, aircraft or wannabe
police men at shopping centres. Everything else hs gone digital.


When I was on Guernsey a few years ago, every other house in one street had
a discone for some reason. I've always wondered why ?


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Old October 1st 06, 03:50 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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As others have said, discone and grid aerial. Some discones can be used
to
transmit on amateur bands 2m and 70cm so are ideal if space is limited.
Performance will not be that good. I am not sure why anyone would want a
scanner now unless they just listen to taxi firms, aircraft or wannabe
police men at shopping centres.


Wanabe shoplifters perhaps?
The other thing to mention about the Discone is that it receives both H & V
polarised signals. It is a compromise for both.

In fact "compromise" sums it up nicely.
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Old October 1st 06, 04:20 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 14:50:31 +0100, "Graham" wrote:

As others have said, discone and grid aerial. Some discones can be used
to
transmit on amateur bands 2m and 70cm so are ideal if space is limited.
Performance will not be that good. I am not sure why anyone would want a
scanner now unless they just listen to taxi firms, aircraft or wannabe
police men at shopping centres.


Wanabe shoplifters perhaps?
The other thing to mention about the Discone is that it receives both H & V
polarised signals. It is a compromise for both.

In fact "compromise" sums it up nicely.


It seems to be designed on the principle that -

"The more metal you have in the air it's gotta be better".

DG

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Old October 1st 06, 06:07 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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aerial 1 is a discone aerial used for a scanner

AE


"Geoff Lane" wrote in message
...
Whilst on a recent holiday in Wales I noticed a couple of strange
shaped aeials.

Number one www.3lanes.dsl.pipex.com/temp/aerial1.jpg was noticed on a
few rooftops in Aberyswyth, West Wales. No idea what this relates to.

Number two www.3lanes.dsl.pipex.com/temp/aerial2.jpg I suspect is a
flat version of a conventional yagi or log but that is only a guess.

Any enlightenment would be appreciated.

Geoff Lane



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Old October 1st 06, 07:57 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Geoff Lane
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On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 13:41:12 +0100, Geoff Lane
wrote:

Whilst on a recent holiday in Wales I noticed a couple of strange
shaped aeials.


Thanks for all the answers, amazing how something most people don't
even notice can be fascinating to others...

Geoff Lane

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Old October 1st 06, 08:12 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Ian Jackson
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In message , Graham
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The other thing to mention about the Discone is that it receives both H & V
polarised signals. It is a compromise for both.

You sure?
Ian.

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