Five's new channels testing?

"allan tracy" wrote in message
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Twas good to start with but once you'd seen all the Professionals
repeats then all the car buying guides repeats that was that.

I rather liked Roy Chubby Brown.

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Good evening ladies how's the old clitoris.

Any trouble you come and see Chubby.

I might not be an expert but I'll have a f**king good look.

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I think it was:

'I might not be an experienced gynecologist but I'll have a f**king good
look it for yer'

I bet theres a few soggy saddlebags in the audience......

Rock On Chubs!!

What I find so curious about 5 is that when it first began and
satellite was still in good old analogue, it was a FTA channel, to
enable it access across the UK, and of course into Europe (on the 19.2E
Astra sat.). Now that 5 is on a UK only Astra sat, it is encrypted.
It remains a public commercial channel and it along with Channel 4 and
any 5 offshoots should be broadcasting FTA again; that means no
Videoguard encryption. Alot of UK sat. enthusiasts are able to access
other satellites apart from 28.2/5 and so we buy our satellite boxes
from Humax, or Topfield or Echostar etc... All the BBC TV and radio
digital channels are FTA, as are the ITV ones, Film 4 is FTA and so are
all the commercial radio stations you'd get from a Skybox. 5
deliberately "courted" the satellite audience when it began and even
today the analogue aerial transmissions lack the detail of satellite,
so why not join the BBC and most of your commercial rivals and
broadcast to all UK satellite viewers, unencrypted?

I wrote to Five about this.

Here is the correspondence.

Your Reference: VA/167105/IK (Please quote this reference in all further
correspondence)





Date: 13th September 2006




Dear John



Thank you for your recent further e-mail and please allow us to apologise
for the delay in responding.

We were sorry to read that you were unhappy with our previous response. We
can not comment on ITV's licence to broadcast, as that may very well be
different from ours, as indeed Channel 4's may be too.

We would also remind you that as we do not make any programmes ourselves, we
only receive broadcast rights. When we purchase broadcast rights for
programmes and films, we only buy rights for UK broadcast, as even if a
rights holder would sell us their programming for further broadcasting, the
cost would be prohibitive. Obviously it is in our interest, as a commercial
broadcaster, to maximise our audience, but not at any cost.


It is also worth bearing in mind that, as ITV makes many of its own
programmes, these restrictions may not apply to their satellite output.



Thank you for your interest in Five.

Yours sincerely

Ian

VIEWER ADVISOR



Please note that the contact details for Five Customer Services are as
follows:



Telephone: 0845 7 05 05 05 / 020 7421
7270

Text telephone for use by deaf people: 0845 7 41 37 87

E-mail:

Fax: 020 7836 1286


-----Original Message-----
From: John Porcella ]
Sent: 10 September 2006 21:22
To: Customer Services
Subject: Fw: Five's New Digital Channels

Please forward this to your supervisor/manager for immediate comment.

In the second paragraph from one of your staff, it is stated that Five is

licensed by OfCom and your licence prohibits "broadcasting outside the

United Kingdom". But surely ITV is licensed under the same agreement, and

it has decided to broadcast FTA. Your response does not satisfactorily

explain why Five does not do the same.

I await your clarification.

John Porcella





Thank you for your most recent enquiry. We apologise for the delay in

responding.



We were sorry to read that you are disappointed that Five Life and Five

US, our two new digital channels, will be encrypted for digital

satellite transmissions. The recent decision by the BBC and ITV to

broadcast in the clear from a different satellite is not something that

Five can copy. The satellite coverage now used by these channels can

still reach parts of mainland Europe, and the Republic of Ireland. Five

is licensed by OfCom (The Office of Communications). The terms of our

licence prohibit broadcasting outside the United Kingdom. Also, when we

acquire the broadcast rights for programmes and films, these are

specifically for the UK territory.



This is why we pay BSkyB to encrypt and broadcast our channel via

digital satellite. The new channels remain free-to-air, meaning you do

not pay a subscription in order to watch them. Anyone with the right

equipment will be able to receive Five Life and Five US, regardless of

whether or not they subscribe to any Sky channels.



Nevertheless, your comments have been noted in our Viewer Enquiries

Report. As you know, this is circulated throughout the company and will

be seen by all relevant personnel.



Thank you for your interest in Five.





Yours sincerely



David

VIEWER ADVISOR





Please note that the contact details for Five Customer Services are as

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Telephone: 0845 7 05 05 05 / 020 7421 7270

Text telephone for use by deaf people: 0845 7 41 37 87

E-mail:

Fax: 020 7836 1286





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allan tracy wrote:


André Coutanche wrote:
allan tracy wrote:
What will the new channels be called - five two, five three etc?

Five US and Five life.

http://www.five.tv/aboutfive/press/p...wonewchannels/

André Coutanche

Thank you.

Five Life sounds like a bundle of fun - more girl's TV.

How come a channel aimed at a female audience is considered viable yet
somethig similar aimed at dysfunctional, autistic and infantile men
(i.e. the sort that are interested in science engineering and things
with wheels/wings) is not to be even encouraged?

I suppose it's the feminisation of TV and the media again, but do Five
really not wan't a male audience or do all the girls, that clearly run
it, believe for one second that blokes are going to tune into
irrelevant people TV.

The country's going soft just look at all the complaints Top Gear
attracts just because they dare to put some wheels on.


That's because they're reviewing stuff that nobody watching the programme
can afford.
It's not that like I don't like the occasional "fun" item, such as the "Star
in the reasonably priced car", but the Amphibious Cars", The Drive-Time
Radio Show and the 3 Go Off Caravaning were just appalling waste of time
and not funny at all.
Even the races were interesting, whether it was the Ducati Veyron or the
Race Around the London Marathon Route, but some of the really dumb stuff
just grates.
I'm not expecting it to act like the '70's and early '80's shows, but at
least if they didn't treat every review of a non-hot hatch/sports/supercar
as "Yawn, this ordinary car is soooo terrible, not like the SuperDooper
SRZXTi 5000."
Though at least it's not Vroom-Vroom, which seems completely Chavtastic.
Though I did find the Cat and Mouse item entertaining.

Five US will no doubt be full of all the stuff the other channels have
already declined which, given that I avoid most US TV already, hardly
sounds appealing.


Probably it have 1st view of the series that they current show on five such
as House, Criminal Minds, CSI, Killer Instinct etc.

Some of the US stuff that's appeared on ITV4 such as the The Inside, Robbery
Homicide Division and Wanted, have been pretty good.
I agree there is probably a lot of dross on US TV, but there are good US TV
series as well.

Actually, AUS TV is not all bad they could do better to import some of
that, in fact Serbo Croat TV holds more appeal than the US stuff.

Bruce S.

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You don't have to pay Sky to get Channel 5. It's FTV.

You do actually have to pay Sky something to get the viewing card.

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On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:26:01 +0200, Jomtien wrote:

|Zero Tolerance wrote:
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|You don't have to pay Sky to get Channel 5. It's FTV.
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|You do actually have to pay Sky something to get the viewing card.

Yes GBP20 see sig.
Ch5 bumpf says that they will be Free To Air, but I expect they are
Linguistically Challenged.
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Adrian A wrote:
Peter Gillett wrote:
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allan tracy wrote:

Brian Wescombe wrote:
Are Five's new channels testing on digital satellite yet?

Thanks in advance

I didn't know about this. What have we got to look forward to -
Canadian football?

What will the new channels be called - five two, five three etc?

Probably E5 and more5 ;-)

Peter

Where have you been for the last few weeks? five life and five US.

Did you not understand the smiley?

Peter

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Mike wrote:
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:00:37 +0000 (UTC), Brian McIlwrath
wrote:

Actually the BBC have been *VERY* secretive about what the ultimate savings
have been!! They did announce how much they were saving by not paying Sky BUT
have never admitted just how much extra they are having to pay for the
rights to films/events!! It is quite possible that they are actually paying
MORE now!

As long as the extra money doesn't go to that smug **** Murdoch or any
of his family it's alright by me

The money that gets paid to 20th Century Fox for rights ends up in his
hands. At least the Beeb don't show the Simpsons and 24 any longer.

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On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 00:11:01 +0100, "John Porcella"
wrote:

I wrote to Five about this.

Here is the correspondence.

Your Reference: VA/167105/IK (Please quote this reference in all further
correspondence)





Date: 13th September 2006




Dear John



Thank you for your recent further e-mail and please allow us to apologise
for the delay in responding.

We were sorry to read that you were unhappy with our previous response. We
can not comment on ITV's licence to broadcast, as that may very well be
different from ours, as indeed Channel 4's may be too.

We would also remind you that as we do not make any programmes ourselves, we
only receive broadcast rights. When we purchase broadcast rights for
programmes and films, we only buy rights for UK broadcast, as even if a
rights holder would sell us their programming for further broadcasting, the
cost would be prohibitive. Obviously it is in our interest, as a commercial
broadcaster, to maximise our audience, but not at any cost.


It is also worth bearing in mind that, as ITV makes many of its own
programmes, these restrictions may not apply to their satellite output.



Thank you for your interest in Five.

Yours sincerely

Ian

VIEWER ADVISOR



Please note that the contact details for Five Customer Services are as
follows:



Telephone: 0845 7 05 05 05 / 020 7421
7270

Text telephone for use by deaf people: 0845 7 41 37 87

E-mail:

Fax: 020 7836 1286


You should reply by pointing out that if they moved their transmissions from
Astra 2B to Astra 2D there would be no issue with regard to broadcasting outside
of the licensed territory. The Astra 2D beam is tightly focused on the UK & is
the satellite that ITV, BBC & Film 4 all broadcast FTA. There is plenty of
transponder space there as BSkyB have a load of encrypted channels that they
could easily swap with the five transponders on Astra 2B.

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Mike wrote:
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:00:37 +0000 (UTC), Brian McIlwrath
wrote:

Actually the BBC have been *VERY* secretive about what the ultimate
savings
have been!! They did announce how much they were saving by not
paying Sky BUT
have never admitted just how much extra they are having to pay for the
rights to films/events!! It is quite possible that they are
actually paying
MORE now!

As long as the extra money doesn't go to that smug **** Murdoch or any
of his family it's alright by me

The money that gets paid to 20th Century Fox for rights ends up in his
hands. At least the Beeb don't show the Simpsons and 24 any longer.

Ah, "24", a series that very quickly demonstrates the concept of the
phrase "A Month of Sundays" (same idea, but on a shorter timescale:-).

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Nigel Barker wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 00:11:01 +0100, "John Porcella"
wrote:


You should reply by pointing out that if they moved their transmissions from
Astra 2B to Astra 2D there would be no issue with regard to broadcasting outside
of the licensed territory. The Astra 2D beam is tightly focused on the UK & is
the satellite that ITV, BBC & Film 4 all broadcast FTA. There is plenty of
transponder space there as BSkyB have a load of encrypted channels that they
could easily swap with the five transponders on Astra 2B.

The problem is that BSkyB perform C5's uplinking (unlike BBC, ITV, and 4),
so they're unlikely to do that swap.

C5 would do better to try and rent space on one of ITV or the BBC's
transponders, but I suspect uplinking and encryption are bundled together
into a package with Sky.



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