Rapture TV to disappear from Sky EPG

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:39:09 +0100, "Rich"
wrote in
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Sorry....

Sky is a private company not like BT a public one

If Sky wishes to charge a its called running a business.

BT Group is quoted on the London Stock Exchange, symbol LSE:BT.A

B Sky B is quoted on the London Stock Exchange, symbol LSE:BSY

Both are public limited companies.

See also the OFT note on "Abuse of a dominant position":

"Since 1 May 2004 not only the European Commission, but also the Office
of Fair Trading (OFT) has the power to apply and enforce Articles 81 and
82 of the EC Treaty in the United Kingdom. ..."

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"Rich" wrote in message
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Sorry....

Sky is a private company not like BT a public one

If Sky wishes to charge a its called running a business.


"Adrian A" wrote in message
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JFH wrote:
Rapture TV is to disappear from Sky EPG.

You may continue to watch on 11.333 H 27,500 2/3

Rapture TV believes that BSkyB is charging excessively high fees for
the supply of an EPG service on the UK's only DSat platform. Rapture
TV has submitted evidence that BSkyB used to charge much lower fees
for the same service. Rapture TV contends that BSkyB is failing to
provide the EPG Service on a cost-oriented basis and that this may
be regarded as a breach of paragraph 15(A) of the Code of Practice
on Electronic Programme Guides.

Its about time Sky was broken up in the same way BT has been. There
should really be three separate companies the satellite platform
provider, program maker and home equipment provider.

That's exactly how it is. Why do think it's not?




Actually its called a monopoly and it needs splitting up .

"Adrian A" wrote in message
...
JFH wrote:
Rapture TV is to disappear from Sky EPG.

You may continue to watch on 11.333 H 27,500 2/3

Rapture TV believes that BSkyB is charging excessively high fees for
the supply of an EPG service on the UK's only DSat platform. Rapture
TV has submitted evidence that BSkyB used to charge much lower fees
for the same service. Rapture TV contends that BSkyB is failing to
provide the EPG Service on a cost-oriented basis and that this may
be regarded as a breach of paragraph 15(A) of the Code of Practice
on Electronic Programme Guides.

Its about time Sky was broken up in the same way BT has been. There
should really be three separate companies the satellite platform
provider, program maker and home equipment provider.

That's exactly how it is. Why do think it's not?


One company Sky has a totally domination of the market. If this was to
happen in any other industry the company would be forced in to becoming an
equal player (As what happened to BT, GAS etc). Unfortunately everyone in
the political parties is too scared of Mr Murdoch.

Philip Green wrote:

What programme information is there on the EPG for Rapture?

As much or as little as Rapture cares to provide.


Who updates it and how much work does that entail?

The broadcasters prepare all the data and forward it to Sky ready to
be included in the data stream. Inclusion is automatic.


What are the costs to BskyB?

Ongoing costs? Minimal.


What does BskyB charge for this 'service'?

About £80,000 per annum per channel, IIRC.

There is another (much higher) fee for encryption.

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"JFH" Not given wrote in message
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Actually its called a monopoly and it needs splitting up .




look up monopoly in a dictionary.
you'll need cable and top up tv to disappear first.


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JFK wrote:
"Adrian A" wrote in message
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JFH wrote:
Rapture TV is to disappear from Sky EPG.

You may continue to watch on 11.333 H 27,500 2/3

Rapture TV believes that BSkyB is charging excessively high fees for
the supply of an EPG service on the UK's only DSat platform. Rapture
TV has submitted evidence that BSkyB used to charge much lower fees
for the same service. Rapture TV contends that BSkyB is failing to
provide the EPG Service on a cost-oriented basis and that this may
be regarded as a breach of paragraph 15(A) of the Code of Practice
on Electronic Programme Guides.

Its about time Sky was broken up in the same way BT has been. There
should really be three separate companies the satellite platform
provider, program maker and home equipment provider.
That's exactly how it is. Why do think it's not?


One company Sky has a totally domination of the market. If this was to
happen in any other industry the company would be forced in to becoming an
equal player (As what happened to BT, GAS etc). Unfortunately everyone in
the political parties is too scared of Mr Murdoch.

Look you have already been told how the three way split works - the one
thing that Sky have control of at the moment is the EPG. Oftel (as was)
did have some plans on freeing this up - or creating a more open
framework in the late 90's but didn't act. The EPG is stopping
innovation in the UK.

You are correct that certain media companies have too much dirt on
politicians for them to rock the boat.

JFH wrote:
"Adrian A" wrote in message
...
JFH wrote:
Rapture TV is to disappear from Sky EPG.

You may continue to watch on 11.333 H 27,500 2/3

Rapture TV believes that BSkyB is charging excessively high fees
for the supply of an EPG service on the UK's only DSat platform.
Rapture TV has submitted evidence that BSkyB used to charge much
lower fees for the same service. Rapture TV contends that BSkyB is
failing to provide the EPG Service on a cost-oriented basis and
that this may
be regarded as a breach of paragraph 15(A) of the Code of Practice
on Electronic Programme Guides.

Its about time Sky was broken up in the same way BT has been. There
should really be three separate companies the satellite platform
provider, program maker and home equipment provider.

That's exactly how it is. Why do think it's not?


One company Sky has a totally domination of the market. If this was to
happen in any other industry the company would be forced in to
becoming an equal player (As what happened to BT, GAS etc).
Unfortunately everyone in the political parties is too scared of Mr
Murdoch.

Sky do not own the satellites. Sky do not make recievers. Sky do not
broadcast all the channels. The only thing they a monopoly on in Britian is
the encryption and the epg, neither of which other broadcasters are forced
to use.
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Paul Martin wrote:
In article ,
Adrian A wrote:
JFH wrote:
One company Sky has a totally domination of the market. If this was
to

Sky do not own the satellites. Sky do not make recievers. Sky do not
broadcast all the channels. The only thing they a monopoly on in
Britian is the encryption and the epg, neither of which other
broadcasters are forced to use.

Sky (and sibling companies) own the software platform: EPG, "Open"
interactive firmware, and the encryption system.

Isn't that what I said?

On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 07:28:08 +0100, "the dog from that film you saw"
wrote:


"JFH" Not given wrote in message
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Actually its called a monopoly and it needs splitting up .




look up monopoly in a dictionary.
you'll need cable and top up tv to disappear first.

Didn't know that they were in the satellite business.

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On 19 Sep 2006 08:03:22 GMT, Paul Martin wrote:

In article ,
JFH wrote:
Rapture TV is to disappear from Sky EPG.

You may continue to watch on 11.333 H 27,500 2/3

Rapture TV believes that BSkyB is charging excessively high fees for the
supply of an EPG service on the UK's only DSat platform. Rapture TV has
submitted evidence that BSkyB used to charge much lower fees for the same
service. Rapture TV contends that BSkyB is failing to provide the EPG
Service on a cost-oriented basis and that this may be regarded as a breach
of paragraph 15(A) of the Code of Practice on Electronic Programme Guides.

Its about time Sky was broken up in the same way BT has been. There should
really be three separate companies the satellite platform provider, program
maker and home equipment provider.

When did BT get broken up? I don't remember that happening.

Perhaps the OP was thinking of AT&T in the US which did have a monopoly over
long distance telephone calls & was broken up to ensure competition.

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