Five's new channels testing?

Marcus Houlden wrote:

Lots of spin and waffle there. Looks like TUTV is cutting down on the number
of channels it broadcasts and cutting the hours of others. Some of the shows
on channels being dropped will be sent overnight as MPEG files to be stored
on the HD of the PVR box. On top of all this it will cost an extra £2/month.
I can't see it lasting, which is a shame as it will probably just be
replaced with yet more semi-legal quiz channels and pointless shopping
channels. With a bit more attention to detail TUTV could have been much
better.

They've already stopped three of their 'channels' and are re-arranging
the hours of their others to free-up space to give back to Five, and at
the same time moving some channels around the EPG. Eurosport's hours
have been cut to run only from noon until 6pm, which is silly for a
live sport channel. Other channels have even shorter slots.

A barker channel is due to go live sometime this week, probably using
the freed space until it goes to Five. Three streams have also appeared
in the EPG, so I assume that they're using just standard encrypted
content. There's also supposedly going to be a film channel for an
extra £5 a month.

As yet, though, they've not given any details as to the actual
programme content this service will be carrying. We've some details of
the channels they are getting content from, but that's about it. I
believe the plans are to eventually suspend completely the current TUTV
service during the day, with the slots going over to sports
broadcasters to show Premiership football from the start of next season.

In article ,
Adrian A wrote:
Peter Gillett wrote:
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allan tracy wrote:

Brian Wescombe wrote:
Are Five's new channels testing on digital satellite yet?

Thanks in advance

I didn't know about this. What have we got to look forward to -
Canadian football?

What will the new channels be called - five two, five three etc?

Probably E5 and more5 ;-)

Peter

Where have you been for the last few weeks? five life and five US.

Probably to be confused with five live and five them. ;-(

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Because women are a far better target for TV advertising.

They certainly are. Look at the types of product for which are regularly
advertised on prime-time TV -

How many Shampoo adverts do you see ? almost all aimed at women
Ditto cosmetics (moisturisers etc).
Ditto Womens magazines. Take a look at your supermarket - at my local Asda,
there are 6 racks of "womens interest" magazines, with 2 racks being shared
by mens mags( Nuts, FHM etc) and general interest.

Take those out of a typical ad break, and what do you have left? Not much.

Adrian B

PGG wrote:
Marcus Houlden wrote:


Lots of spin and waffle there. Looks like TUTV is cutting down on the number
of channels it broadcasts and cutting the hours of others. Some of the shows
on channels being dropped will be sent overnight as MPEG files to be stored
on the HD of the PVR box. On top of all this it will cost an extra £2/month.
I can't see it lasting, which is a shame as it will probably just be
replaced with yet more semi-legal quiz channels and pointless shopping
channels. With a bit more attention to detail TUTV could have been much
better.


They've already stopped three of their 'channels' and are re-arranging
the hours of their others to free-up space to give back to Five, and at
the same time moving some channels around the EPG. Eurosport's hours
have been cut to run only from noon until 6pm, which is silly for a
live sport channel. Other channels have even shorter slots.

A barker channel is due to go live sometime this week, probably using
the freed space until it goes to Five. Three streams have also appeared
in the EPG, so I assume that they're using just standard encrypted
content. There's also supposedly going to be a film channel for an
extra £5 a month.

As yet, though, they've not given any details as to the actual
programme content this service will be carrying. We've some details of
the channels they are getting content from, but that's about it. I
believe the plans are to eventually suspend completely the current TUTV
service during the day, with the slots going over to sports
broadcasters to show Premiership football from the start of next season.

What's a barker channel (please)?

with wheels/wings) is not to be even encouraged?

I suppose it's the feminisation of TV and the media again, but do Five
really not wan't

"wan't"?


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John Porcella

John Porcella wrote:
with wheels/wings) is not to be even encouraged?

I suppose it's the feminisation of TV and the media again, but do Five
really not wan't

"wan't"?


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MESSAGE ENDS.
John Porcella

What I find so curious about 5 is that when it first began and
satellite was still in good old analogue, it was a FTA channel, to
enable it access across the UK, and of course into Europe (on the 19.2E
Astra sat.). Now that 5 is on a UK only Astra sat, it is encrypted.
It remains a public commercial channel and it along with Channel 4 and
any 5 offshoots should be broadcasting FTA again; that means no
Videoguard encryption. Alot of UK sat. enthusiasts are able to access
other satellites apart from 28.2/5 and so we buy our satellite boxes
from Humax, or Topfield or Echostar etc... All the BBC TV and radio
digital channels are FTA, as are the ITV ones, Film 4 is FTA and so are
all the commercial radio stations you'd get from a Skybox. 5
deliberately "courted" the satellite audience when it began and even
today the analogue aerial transmissions lack the detail of satellite,
so why not join the BBC and most of your commercial rivals and
broadcast to all UK satellite viewers, unencrypted?

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:23:57 +0100, JNugent wrote:

PGG wrote:
Marcus Houlden wrote:


Lots of spin and waffle there. Looks like TUTV is cutting down on the number
of channels it broadcasts and cutting the hours of others. Some of the shows
on channels being dropped will be sent overnight as MPEG files to be stored
on the HD of the PVR box. On top of all this it will cost an extra £2/month.
I can't see it lasting, which is a shame as it will probably just be
replaced with yet more semi-legal quiz channels and pointless shopping
channels. With a bit more attention to detail TUTV could have been much
better.


They've already stopped three of their 'channels' and are re-arranging
the hours of their others to free-up space to give back to Five, and at
the same time moving some channels around the EPG. Eurosport's hours
have been cut to run only from noon until 6pm, which is silly for a
live sport channel. Other channels have even shorter slots.

A barker channel is due to go live sometime this week, probably using
the freed space until it goes to Five. Three streams have also appeared
in the EPG, so I assume that they're using just standard encrypted
content. There's also supposedly going to be a film channel for an
extra £5 a month.

As yet, though, they've not given any details as to the actual
programme content this service will be carrying. We've some details of
the channels they are getting content from, but that's about it. I
believe the plans are to eventually suspend completely the current TUTV
service during the day, with the slots going over to sports
broadcasters to show Premiership football from the start of next season.

What's a barker channel (please)?

It's one dedicated to news of my family:-)

or it is a channel promoting the channel package the name is derived from a
fairground barker http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barker_%28occupation%29

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Nigel Barker wrote:

What's a barker channel (please)?

It's one dedicated to news of my family:-)

Any relation? No, even if you were you'd hardly admit
it would you?
Cheers
Jeff

galaxyguy wrote:
John Porcella wrote:
with wheels/wings) is not to be even encouraged?

I suppose it's the feminisation of TV and the media again, but do
Five really not wan't

"wan't"?


--
MESSAGE ENDS.
John Porcella

What I find so curious about 5 is that when it first began and
satellite was still in good old analogue, it was a FTA channel, to
enable it access across the UK, and of course into Europe (on the
19.2E Astra sat.). Now that 5 is on a UK only Astra sat, it is
encrypted.
It remains a public commercial channel and it along with Channel 4 and
any 5 offshoots should be broadcasting FTA again; that means no
Videoguard encryption. Alot of UK sat. enthusiasts are able to access
other satellites apart from 28.2/5 and so we buy our satellite boxes
from Humax, or Topfield or Echostar etc... All the BBC TV and radio
digital channels are FTA, as are the ITV ones, Film 4 is FTA and so
are all the commercial radio stations you'd get from a Skybox. 5
deliberately "courted" the satellite audience when it began and even
today the analogue aerial transmissions lack the detail of satellite,
so why not join the BBC and most of your commercial rivals and
broadcast to all UK satellite viewers, unencrypted?

It was never free to air, it was soft encrypted with videocrypt, as used by
Sky at the time so only sold in the UK. No card was needed but a Videocrypt
decoder was.
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Adrian

Adrian A wrote:
galaxyguy wrote:


What I find so curious about 5 is that when it first began and
satellite was still in good old analogue, it was a FTA channel, to
enable it access across the UK, and of course into Europe (on the
19.2E Astra sat.). Now that 5 is on a UK only Astra sat, it is
encrypted.
It remains a public commercial channel and it along with Channel 4 and
any 5 offshoots should be broadcasting FTA again; that means no
Videoguard encryption. Alot of UK sat. enthusiasts are able to access
other satellites apart from 28.2/5 and so we buy our satellite boxes
from Humax, or Topfield or Echostar etc... All the BBC TV and radio
digital channels are FTA, as are the ITV ones, Film 4 is FTA and so
are all the commercial radio stations you'd get from a Skybox. 5
deliberately "courted" the satellite audience when it began and even
today the analogue aerial transmissions lack the detail of satellite,
so why not join the BBC and most of your commercial rivals and
broadcast to all UK satellite viewers, unencrypted?

It was never free to air, it was soft encrypted with videocrypt, as used by
Sky at the time so only sold in the UK. No card was needed but a Videocrypt
decoder was.
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Adrian

Adrian, Thank you for your reply. Yes, you are right. I forgot because
in the past the public chose and bought their Pace Sky Analogue boxes
through shops and dealers.
So, they came with Videoguard.
Today if you buy a set top box independently of Sky you won't get
Videoguard.
Viacess and Irdeto boxes seem most widely available + FTA receivers;
consequently Channel 4 and its offshoots (except Film 4) are encrypted
as is 5.
I have made representations to them today to transmit "in the clear"
like BBC and ITV,
but they are unwilling due to Copyright reasons. I find this argument
weak, even if they do "buy in" many programmes. European viewers can
watch many of the same US
programmes on the German RTL, Vox, etc.. French TF1 and M6 and other
commercial broadcasters who are equally "licensed" but reception is
available Europe wide.
5, you could save a fortune (just as the BBC has) by broadcasting in
the clear and enable UK viewers who pay a full licence fee to watch
your programmes digitally.
As things stand when analogue terrestrial 5 shuts down, a sizeable
number of viewers will be disenfranchised because we choose not to pay
Sky for TV. That would not be fair.