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Old September 17th 06, 11:59 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Stuart
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Default Progressive or Upconvert with CRT HDTV

I have a Hitachi 57" CRT projection HDTV that accepts 1080i/720p/480p/480i
inputs. It also has a digital HDMI
input. Specs can be found he

http://www.hitachi.us/tv/browse/proj.../57F710A.shtml

I currently use a standard DVD player, but want to explore moving up to a
Progressive Scan, or preferably, a Up-Converter DVD player.
However, I have read conflicting information on whether I will see any
significant difference with HDMI because I have a CRT HDTV.

Can someone please help clear the air?

tks SRM


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Old September 18th 06, 12:17 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Richard Harison
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Default Progressive or Upconvert with CRT HDTV

As far as DVD players go, the consensus, in this NG at least, seems to be the
Oppo
OPDV971H
(www.oppodigital.com)
There is a knowledgeable poster formerly known as "justsc" who has a 34" Sony
CRT and he swears by the Oppo.
If you get the Oppo or ANY make of upscaling DVD player, as far as I know, the
output method (HDMI, DVI or component) is not that significant--depending on
with whom you speak)
Whatever player you buy--make sure it outputs a progressive scan. With an Oppo
(or similar) I would recommend 720p.
While My Sony, similar to justsc's, does a bang up job of standard definition
signals, converting any to progressive scan, the logic on this newsgroup seems
to be...let the DVD player do the work!
The Oppo has what is called the Faroudja chip, which does this in a magnificent
fashion.
How about it...artist formerly known as "justsc?"

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"Stuart" wrote in message
...
I have a Hitachi 57" CRT projection HDTV that accepts 1080i/720p/480p/480i
inputs. It also has a digital HDMI
input. Specs can be found he

http://www.hitachi.us/tv/browse/proj.../57F710A.shtml

I currently use a standard DVD player, but want to explore moving up to a
Progressive Scan, or preferably, a Up-Converter DVD player.
However, I have read conflicting information on whether I will see any
significant difference with HDMI because I have a CRT HDTV.

Can someone please help clear the air?

tks SRM




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Old September 18th 06, 05:58 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Dave Oldridge
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Default Progressive or Upconvert with CRT HDTV

"Stuart" wrote in
:

I have a Hitachi 57" CRT projection HDTV that accepts
1080i/720p/480p/480i inputs. It also has a digital HDMI
input. Specs can be found he

http://www.hitachi.us/tv/browse/proj.../57F710A.shtml

I currently use a standard DVD player, but want to explore moving up
to a Progressive Scan, or preferably, a Up-Converter DVD player.
However, I have read conflicting information on whether I will see any
significant difference with HDMI because I have a CRT HDTV.

Can someone please help clear the air?


A lot depends on the TV and the player. Most digital TV sets with HDTV
capability have some kind of built-in up-conversion. But a good player
may have a better one. I think you will get better results from
progressive scan, simply because that will give any up-conversion your TV
does more stuff to work with. I feed mine at 480p for all SD material,
both from the DVD and from the satellite box. And the satellite box
supplies 1080i for the HD.


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Old September 18th 06, 06:00 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Dave Oldridge
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Default Progressive or Upconvert with CRT HDTV

"Stuart" wrote in
:

Can someone please help clear the air?

tks SRM


If you can borrow a progressive scan DVD player, try it and see.

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Old September 19th 06, 04:57 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Stuart
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Default Progressive or Upconvert with CRT HDTV

Dave,

Thanks for the tip. I was able to find a function within my Hitachi called
"Virtual HD" that upconverts to 540P and 1080i.
I guess a couple of questions remain:

Why would it convert to 540P, but not 720P?
If I got a DVD upconverter that outputs 720P/1080i, should I expect better
results than 540P since my system accepts both as an input?
I use component right now. Would HDMI make it any better? I assume that
any DVD player I get with HDMI is going to be an upconverter.

Many thanks.

SRM

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"Stuart" wrote in
:

I have a Hitachi 57" CRT projection HDTV that accepts
1080i/720p/480p/480i inputs. It also has a digital HDMI
input. Specs can be found he

http://www.hitachi.us/tv/browse/proj.../57F710A.shtml

I currently use a standard DVD player, but want to explore moving up
to a Progressive Scan, or preferably, a Up-Converter DVD player.
However, I have read conflicting information on whether I will see any
significant difference with HDMI because I have a CRT HDTV.

Can someone please help clear the air?


A lot depends on the TV and the player. Most digital TV sets with HDTV
capability have some kind of built-in up-conversion. But a good player
may have a better one. I think you will get better results from
progressive scan, simply because that will give any up-conversion your TV
does more stuff to work with. I feed mine at 480p for all SD material,
both from the DVD and from the satellite box. And the satellite box
supplies 1080i for the HD.


--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667



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Old September 19th 06, 04:49 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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Default Progressive or Upconvert with CRT HDTV

On 9/17/2006 5:17 PM, Richard Harison wrote:
As far as DVD players go, the consensus, in this NG at least, seems to be the
Oppo
OPDV971H
(www.oppodigital.com)
There is a knowledgeable poster formerly known as "justsc" who has a 34" Sony
CRT and he swears by the Oppo.
If you get the Oppo or ANY make of upscaling DVD player, as far as I know, the
output method (HDMI, DVI or component) is not that significant--depending on
with whom you speak)
Whatever player you buy--make sure it outputs a progressive scan. With an Oppo
(or similar) I would recommend 720p.
While My Sony, similar to justsc's, does a bang up job of standard definition
signals, converting any to progressive scan, the logic on this newsgroup seems
to be...let the DVD player do the work!
The Oppo has what is called the Faroudja chip, which does this in a magnificent
fashion.
How about it...artist formerly known as "justsc?"


Why doesn't Oppo make a DVD Recorder?
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Old September 19th 06, 05:34 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Dave Oldridge
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Default Progressive or Upconvert with CRT HDTV

"Stuart" wrote in
:

Dave,

Thanks for the tip. I was able to find a function within my Hitachi
called "Virtual HD" that upconverts to 540P and 1080i.
I guess a couple of questions remain:

Why would it convert to 540P, but not 720P?


Prohably because the native resolution of your TV is 1080i. It's very
easy to map 540p to that.

If I got a DVD upconverter that outputs 720P/1080i, should I expect
better results than 540P since my system accepts both as an input?


Hard to say without experiment. My take on it is that my old 5-disc
player does a good enough job of putting out 480p that I'm willing to
stick with my TV's internal up conversion until such time as there is
TRUE HD DVD available (and in a single, standardized format).

I use component right now. Would HDMI make it any better? I assume
that any DVD player I get with HDMI is going to be an upconverter.


Again, this is hard to say....the real advantage of HDMI is that it
supplies your TV with a raw DIGITAL signal to process, just like using a
digital audio connection supplies your stereo with one.


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Old September 19th 06, 08:11 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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Default Progressive or Upconvert with CRT HDTV

Richard Harison wrote:
As far as DVD players go, the consensus, in this NG at least, seems to be the
Oppo
OPDV971H
(www.oppodigital.com)
There is a knowledgeable poster formerly known as "justsc" who has a 34" Sony
CRT and he swears by the Oppo.
If you get the Oppo or ANY make of upscaling DVD player, as far as I know, the
output method (HDMI, DVI or component) is not that significant--depending on
with whom you speak)
Whatever player you buy--make sure it outputs a progressive scan. With an Oppo
(or similar) I would recommend 720p.
While My Sony, similar to justsc's, does a bang up job of standard definition
signals, converting any to progressive scan, the logic on this newsgroup seems
to be...let the DVD player do the work!
The Oppo has what is called the Faroudja chip, which does this in a magnificent
fashion.
How about it...artist formerly known as "justsc?"

Richard,

So good to hear from you.

I am justsc.

For some reason the system now sees me as my email address. I've tried
to go in and fix it but no dice.

As you know, I have the 34" Sony direct view crt HD set and use the
OPPO OPDV971H. I am still completely satisfied with this set-up. As
much as I appreciate the video processing of the Oppo player, the
player's audio performance also continues to amaze me. I have a
relatively low-end home theater in a box and the Oppo makes it sound
like a much higher-end system. I use the optical audio out from the
player to my receiver.

In the case of the Oppo, the video processing (including Faroudja
benefits) chipset resides on the DVI daughtercard, so one must use the
DVI interface to take full advantage of the Oppo. I use a DVI to HDMI
cable provided by Oppo.

I agree with "let the player do the work," so long as it has the
superior video processing capability. I used the HQV Benchmark DVD to
measure the video processing prowess of the Oppo player and that of my
Sony HD set. The Oppo player came out way ahead on all tests. There's
just no comparison.

I still highly recommend the OPPO OPDV971H.

justsc

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Old September 19th 06, 09:09 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Richard Harison
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Default Progressive or Upconvert with CRT HDTV

email address--the *from* line. Are you using Outlook Express. If so I can
help

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All the Best
Richard Harison
wrote in message
ups.com...
Richard Harison wrote:
As far as DVD players go, the consensus, in this NG at least, seems to be the
Oppo
OPDV971H
(www.oppodigital.com)
There is a knowledgeable poster formerly known as "justsc" who has a 34" Sony
CRT and he swears by the Oppo.
If you get the Oppo or ANY make of upscaling DVD player, as far as I know,
the
output method (HDMI, DVI or component) is not that significant--depending on
with whom you speak)
Whatever player you buy--make sure it outputs a progressive scan. With an
Oppo
(or similar) I would recommend 720p.
While My Sony, similar to justsc's, does a bang up job of standard definition
signals, converting any to progressive scan, the logic on this newsgroup
seems
to be...let the DVD player do the work!
The Oppo has what is called the Faroudja chip, which does this in a
magnificent
fashion.
How about it...artist formerly known as "justsc?"

Richard,

So good to hear from you.

I am justsc.

For some reason the system now sees me as my email address. I've tried
to go in and fix it but no dice.

As you know, I have the 34" Sony direct view crt HD set and use the
OPPO OPDV971H. I am still completely satisfied with this set-up. As
much as I appreciate the video processing of the Oppo player, the
player's audio performance also continues to amaze me. I have a
relatively low-end home theater in a box and the Oppo makes it sound
like a much higher-end system. I use the optical audio out from the
player to my receiver.

In the case of the Oppo, the video processing (including Faroudja
benefits) chipset resides on the DVI daughtercard, so one must use the
DVI interface to take full advantage of the Oppo. I use a DVI to HDMI
cable provided by Oppo.

I agree with "let the player do the work," so long as it has the
superior video processing capability. I used the HQV Benchmark DVD to
measure the video processing prowess of the Oppo player and that of my
Sony HD set. The Oppo player came out way ahead on all tests. There's
just no comparison.

I still highly recommend the OPPO OPDV971H.

justsc




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Old September 19th 06, 09:19 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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Default Progressive or Upconvert with CRT HDTV

Richard Harison wrote:
email address--the *from* line. Are you using Outlook Express. If so I can
help

--
All the Best
Richard Harison

Thanks for trying. No, I don't use Outlook Express.

This is so wierd. I had it all set-up before and justsc was all that
showed. Then my kids used my Mac laptop over vacation and now it's my
email address. In this "email-ish" entry mode the "From:" field is
unavailable for edit - my email address is hardwired in. So I go to my
account and nothing I try works.

When I used to reply it never went to this "email-like" reply mode. A
little reply window would open directly on the web page with the posts,
and I would type right there. When I would click "post" or "submit" it
would then indicate justsc as the author.

Maybe I'll just start signing my posts with justsc.

 




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