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Jim S wrote:
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:17 GMT, mick wrote:

Since you seem to know things about cable. Does BBCi and ITV text
load as quickly as Freeview.

I only have BB and phone through NTL. Digi TV is through a Skybox so I
couldn`t say. iText is pretty slow on that but I`m not sure if that is more
to do with the fact that my Skybox is an old Pace than anything else.

My daughter's NTL service down south was
like treacle. BTW yes Tyneside is Telewest )

Ah. Learn something everyday

mick

mick wrote:
Jim S wrote:
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:17 GMT, mick wrote:

Since you seem to know things about cable. Does BBCi and ITV text
load as quickly as Freeview.

I only have BB and phone through NTL. Digi TV is through a Skybox so I
couldn`t say. iText is pretty slow on that but I`m not sure if that
is more to do with the fact that my Skybox is an old Pace than
anything else.

My daughter's NTL service down south was
like treacle. BTW yes Tyneside is Telewest )

Ah. Learn something everyday

mick

NTL and Telewest are now the same company, eventualy they'll be renamed
Virgin Cable.
--
Adrian

Thus spaketh Andrew:
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 06:45:16 +0100, Rex J Atkins AMIBE
wrote:

I dumped NTL for that reason, on BT basic service my phone costs are
now half the NTL costs

I am with Telewest and now use Skype for all my phone needs. Saves me
100 pounds a year line rental plus loads in call costs.


Yet Skype is one of the dearest VoIP providers, who also charge for an
incoming number!

Thus spaketh Jim S:
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:17 GMT, mick wrote:

Since you seem to know things about cable. Does BBCi and ITV text
load as quickly as Freeview. My daughter's NTL service down south was
like treacle. BTW yes Tyneside is Telewest )

I have TW digital TV (Starter TV package), only have the TV as I am
getting it free with reduced cost 4mbit broadband (offer extended), I
certainly wouldn't pay for cable TV, the interactive / text service is
dreadfully slow as is the whole system, my one Freeview box is almost
instant, the other a little slower, my Sky Dodgy-box is very fast with
these services (no longer subscribe to a Sky service, just use it as a
FTV/FTA box).

Don't have a phone line, have an ATA and use VoIP.


There's a thread on MSE about getting deals on NTL.

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On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:48:15 GMT, {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:

Thus spaketh Jim S:
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:17 GMT, mick wrote:

Since you seem to know things about cable. Does BBCi and ITV text
load as quickly as Freeview. My daughter's NTL service down south was
like treacle. BTW yes Tyneside is Telewest )

I have TW digital TV (Starter TV package), only have the TV as I am
getting it free with reduced cost 4mbit broadband (offer extended), I
certainly wouldn't pay for cable TV, the interactive / text service is
dreadfully slow as is the whole system, my one Freeview box is almost
instant, the other a little slower, my Sky Dodgy-box is very fast with
these services (no longer subscribe to a Sky service, just use it as a
FTV/FTA box).

Don't have a phone line, have an ATA and use VoIP.

There's a thread on MSE about getting deals on NTL.

I be thinkin': I get Freeview for nought, 8Mbps broadband for £14.99 and my
phone bill is usually £13 including calls. I don't really need cable do I?
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Tyneside UK
http://www.jimscott.co.uk

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:42:19 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
wrote:

Yet Skype is one of the dearest VoIP providers

Their rates may not be the cheapest, but the bulk of my calls are free
by talking to people direct via Skype, plus I have the convenience of
using my normal cordless DECT phones with it so I an not tethered to
my PC like a lot of VOIP clients would be.

who also charge for an
incoming number!

20 quid a year compared to ~120 from BT or Cable, big deal.
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Adrian A wrote:
mick wrote:
Jim S wrote:
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:59:17 GMT, mick wrote:

Since you seem to know things about cable. Does BBCi and ITV text
load as quickly as Freeview.

I only have BB and phone through NTL. Digi TV is through a Skybox so
I couldn`t say. iText is pretty slow on that but I`m not sure if that
is more to do with the fact that my Skybox is an old Pace than
anything else.

My daughter's NTL service down south was
like treacle. BTW yes Tyneside is Telewest )

Ah. Learn something everyday

mick

NTL and Telewest are now the same company, eventualy they'll be
renamed Virgin Cable.

I know, I just thought it was NTL that covered the whole of the NE at the
moment. That`s were I`m from.

mick

Thus spaketh Andrew:
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:42:19 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
wrote:

Yet Skype is one of the dearest VoIP providers

Their rates may not be the cheapest, but the bulk of my calls are free
by talking to people direct via Skype, plus I have the convenience of
using my normal cordless DECT phones with it so I an not tethered to
my PC like a lot of VOIP clients would be.

WRONG!

Virtually all allow you to use an ATA which you connect your DECT to,
it's only Skype that force you to have to have a PC switched on, with
proper VoIP providers, you use the ATA and the PC doesn't need to be on.

VoIPCheap, VoIPStunt, SIPDiscount, VoIPBuster, Sipgate, VoIPTalk,
OrbTalk, and the many other SIP VoIP providers do not requre the use of
a PC to make and receive calls, because they are all an open standard
and not propriery like Skype there are many ATAs and if you don't want
to use you own phones, VoIP Phones available all at lower costs that a
Skype DECT bodged device.



who also charge for an
incoming number!

20 quid a year compared to ~120 from BT or Cable, big deal.

20 quid more than proper VoIP providers.

Skype charges for voicemail, proper VoIP it's free.

Proper VoIP charges less for calls.

People use Skype when they don't realise proper, cheaper and better VoIP
services are out there.

On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 09:35:15 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
wrote:

WRONG!

Virtually all allow you to use an ATA which you connect your DECT to,
it's only Skype that force you to have to have a PC switched on, with
proper VoIP providers, you use the ATA and the PC doesn't need to be on.
snip

Thanks for the info, I didn't know about ATA's. I will stick with
Skype for now though as it serves my needs.
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 09:35:15 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
wrote:

VoIPCheap, VoIPStunt, SIPDiscount, VoIPBuster, Sipgate, VoIPTalk,
OrbTalk, and the many other SIP VoIP providers do not requre the use of
a PC to make and receive calls,

Are you sure? A quick glance at VoIPCheap and VoIPTalk suggests that
they require a pc indeed VoIPCheap claims to only work on Windows.
Also, part of VoIPTalk's website is broken (impressive!) and VoIPCheap
wasn't selling itself to me when I found this in their FAQs:

"If you want to enjoy uninterrupted calls to our free* destinations,
please upgrade your account by buying credit."

Skype may not be the best but I wasn't impressed by these two.

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Z