Humax HD DTT PVR

Interesting - Humax were showing a 2 tuner hi definition digital terrestrial
set-top box for the UK market (Hi-Duovision) at the recent IBC show.
Difficult to tell how advanced this product was as it wasn't connected to a
TV - but none of the boxes on their stand were. Still to show just a future
product suggests that behind it all there must be some real work going on
with the expectation of someone actually delivering HD content via DTT. This
device doesn't appear to be listed on the website, but it is in their latest
brochure so hopefully not just vapourware.

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Paul Schofield

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Interesting - Humax were showing a 2 tuner hi definition digital
terrestrial
set-top box for the UK market (Hi-Duovision) at the recent IBC show.
Difficult to tell how advanced this product was as it wasn't connected to
a
TV - but none of the boxes on their stand were. Still to show just a
future
product suggests that behind it all there must be some real work going on
with the expectation of someone actually delivering HD content via DTT.
This
device doesn't appear to be listed on the website, but it is in their
latest
brochure so hopefully not just vapourware.

--
Paul Schofield


http://www.currys.co.uk/ are advertising the Humax HDCI2000 High Definition
Digital TV Receiver under "Freeview TV Adapters". It would appear to be in
stock, but when you click on it, it states that a "satellite dish" is
required?

Either way, it would appear to be a way of receiving BBC HD for a one off
cost of £299. Although, if it is DTT then it would only currently be useful
in the London area.

http://www.currys.co.uk/ are advertising the Humax HDCI2000 High
Definition Digital TV Receiver under "Freeview TV Adapters". It would
appear to be in stock, but when you click on it, it states that a
"satellite dish" is required?

I think that model is only for Satellite.

Humax did publicise earlier this year that they were supplying a version
for trials of terrestrial HDTV using MPEG4 in Italy but that was the
HDCI-2000T - presumably a "T for terrestrial". See
http://www.humaxdigital.com/global/n...ws_sub2006.asp. I've
been told the same box is being used for the BC trails from CP but since
I failed to win that lottery I can't day for sure.

Robin

I think that model is only for Satellite.

Humax did publicise earlier this year that they were supplying a
version for trials of terrestrial HDTV using MPEG4 in Italy but that
was the HDCI-2000T - presumably a "T for terrestrial". See
http://www.humaxdigital.com/global/n...ws_sub2006.asp. I've
been told the same box is being used for the BC trails from CP but
since I failed to win that lottery I can't day for sure.

Robin

Ahem - for BC please read BBC

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http://www.currys.co.uk/ are advertising the Humax HDCI2000 High
Definition Digital TV Receiver under "Freeview TV Adapters". It would
appear to be in stock, but when you click on it, it states that a
"satellite dish" is required?

I think that model is only for Satellite.

Humax did publicise earlier this year that they were supplying a version
for trials of terrestrial HDTV using MPEG4 in Italy but that was the
HDCI-2000T - presumably a "T for terrestrial". See
http://www.humaxdigital.com/global/n...ws_sub2006.asp. I've
been told the same box is being used for the BC trails from CP but since
I failed to win that lottery I can't day for sure.

Robin



Dead right Robin - add the 'T' and you get a HDCI2000T which is DVB-T
complaint but still no hard disk. This new device looks like the 9200 but
has black rather than silver plastic over the display. Also supports SATA
disks up to 250GB, has 3 USB ports (2 host and 1 device) and a LAN port for
connection to home PCs!

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Paul Schofield

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"Paul Schofield" paul_AT_sonifex_DOT_co_DOT_uk wrote in message
...
Interesting - Humax were showing a 2 tuner hi definition digital
terrestrial
set-top box for the UK market (Hi-Duovision) at the recent IBC show.
Difficult to tell how advanced this product was as it wasn't connected to
a
TV - but none of the boxes on their stand were. Still to show just a
future
product suggests that behind it all there must be some real work going on
with the expectation of someone actually delivering HD content via DTT.
This
device doesn't appear to be listed on the website, but it is in their
latest
brochure so hopefully not just vapourware.

--
Paul Schofield


http://www.currys.co.uk/ are advertising the Humax HDCI2000 High Definition
Digital TV Receiver under "Freeview TV Adapters". It would appear to be in
stock, but when you click on it, it states that a "satellite dish" is
required?

Either way, it would appear to be a way of receiving BBC HD for a one off
cost of £299. Although, if it is DTT then it would only currently be useful
in the London area.


Yes, it does say a dish is required, but this is Currys, so it also
says,

"Automatically tunes in all channels in the correct order on your
"freeview" box.

This power-saving feature automatically turns your "freeview" box on
Standby.

A CI (Common Interface) slot can take a Top Up TV CAM, which in turn
will allow insertion of the viewing card, making the new digital top up
pay service available to you."

Just like going into the shop.

Also, for £299 you get High Definition and erm, that's it.

No Digital text,

no rf loopthrough,

no EPG.

Ominously, in the specs, no mention of a tuner, probably removed because
it won't work with the required dish.
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Ian

This new device looks like the 9200 but
has black rather than silver plastic over the display. Also supports
SATA
disks up to 250GB, has 3 USB ports (2 host and 1 device) and a LAN
port for
connection to home PCs!

Thanks for the extra inf. Looks promising. 250Gb looked a bit low
given the HD rates my PC captures from CP (but cannot decode in real
time) but with a LAN it'd be so easy to use NAS etc.

I am ready, willing and able to serve as a beta tester if, for example,
you brought one back, given you are too far from CP.

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Robin

Robin wrote:
This new device looks like the 9200 but
has black rather than silver plastic over the display. Also supports
SATA
disks up to 250GB, has 3 USB ports (2 host and 1 device) and a LAN
port for
connection to home PCs!

Thanks for the extra inf. Looks promising. 250Gb looked a bit low
given the HD rates my PC captures from CP (but cannot decode in real
time) but with a LAN it'd be so easy to use NAS etc.

Not sure if LAN rates would be suitable to support NAS for PVR. Just a
guess though.

D

On 2006-09-15, David Hearn wrote:
Robin wrote:
This new device looks like the 9200 but
has black rather than silver plastic over the display. Also supports
SATA
disks up to 250GB, has 3 USB ports (2 host and 1 device) and a LAN
port for
connection to home PCs!

Thanks for the extra inf. Looks promising. 250Gb looked a bit low
given the HD rates my PC captures from CP (but cannot decode in real
time) but with a LAN it'd be so easy to use NAS etc.

Not sure if LAN rates would be suitable to support NAS for PVR. Just a
guess though.

Well, uncompressed 1080i HD apparantly[1] requires around 1200Mbit/s, so
with 10 gigabit ethernet and half a terrabyte of disk per hour of
programming it might just work....

Of course, it'd probably be more realistic to transfer the compressed
image across the network...

[1] random source from google

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David Taylor

David Taylor wrote:

Well, uncompressed 1080i HD apparantly[1] requires around 1200Mbit/s, so
with 10 gigabit ethernet and half a terrabyte of disk per hour of
programming it might just work....
[1] random source from google

You don't need google. Roughly:

1080*1920 pixels per frame * 24 bits per pixel * 25 frames per second
(given you stated 1080i rather than 1080p), which is about 1244 Mb/s as
you said.

Of course, it'd probably be more realistic to transfer the compressed
image across the network...

What rates are the UK test HD broadcasts using?

For avc/h.264, I've found (very roughly) 4Mb/s adequate, but I've barely
touched 1080i avc due to cpu grunt required. 1280x720 at 23.976 fps can
look pretty good from avc at around 2Mb/s.

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Michael
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