SKy HDMI/Scart switching

Silly question, but I have heard bad things about people having to
manually select the HDMI input on their TV when watching an HD channel
on SKy. Is this true, or should it really switch over automatically? I
presume the rest of the channels go through the scart lead in the
normal way

Ed wrote:
Silly question, but I have heard bad things about people having to
manually select the HDMI input on their TV when watching an HD channel
on SKy. Is this true, or should it really switch over automatically? I
presume the rest of the channels go through the scart lead in the
normal way


Why wouldn't you just watch everything through the HDMI? I'm sure
that's how it works with Telewest's TVDrive. I've got one, but not an
HD telly, and when you set it for HDMI the RGB SCART is disabled.

Stewart

At 13:26:08 on 07/09/2006, Ed delighted uk.tech.digital-tv by
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Silly question, but I have heard bad things about people having to
manually select the HDMI input on their TV when watching an HD channel
on SKy. Is this true, or should it really switch over automatically?

I guess that depends on the TV.

I
presume the rest of the channels go through the scart lead in the
normal way

All the channels go through the scart lead in the normal way; it's just
that there's no benefit to watching HD channels over the scart.

"Ed" wrote in message
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Silly question, but I have heard bad things about people having to
manually select the HDMI input on their TV when watching an HD channel
on SKy. Is this true, or should it really switch over automatically? I
presume the rest of the channels go through the scart lead in the
normal way

For most TV's everything from the SKY HD box can go through HDMI

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Ed wrote:
Silly question, but I have heard bad things about people having to
manually select the HDMI input on their TV when watching an HD
channel on SKy. Is this true, or should it really switch over
automatically? I presume the rest of the channels go through the
scart lead in the normal way


Why wouldn't you just watch everything through the HDMI? I'm sure
that's how it works with Telewest's TVDrive. I've got one, but not
an HD telly, and when you set it for HDMI the RGB SCART is disabled.

Whereas on SkyHD the HDMI, Scart and Component coexist quite peacefully.

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"Ed" wrote in message
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Silly question, but I have heard bad things about people having to
manually select the HDMI input on their TV when watching an HD channel
on SKy. Is this true, or should it really switch over automatically? I
presume the rest of the channels go through the scart lead in the
normal way

For most TV's everything from the SKY HD box can go through HDMI

The problem is that hdmi does not handle aspect ratio switching. If you want
to have automatic AR switching on non HD channels then you must connect via
SCART.

My SkyHD box is connected to my HD panel via both SCART and hdmi and it is
necessary (regrettably) to switch manually to SCART if you want auto AR.

At 21:13:00 on 07/09/2006, Malcolm H delighted uk.tech.digital-tv by
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"JFH" wrote in message
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"Ed" wrote in message
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Silly question, but I have heard bad things about people having to
manually select the HDMI input on their TV when watching an HD
channel on SKy. Is this true, or should it really switch over
automatically? I presume the rest of the channels go through the
scart lead in the normal way

For most TV's everything from the SKY HD box can go through HDMI

The problem is that hdmi does not handle aspect ratio switching.

Everything works fine on my TV with the box output on automatic. SD
4:3 programmes are displayed in 4:3 and widescreen in widescreen. Are
you sure you're not talking about the fact that the 720p/1080i signal
doesn't support switching?

If
you want to have automatic AR switching on non HD channels then you
must connect via SCART.

My SkyHD box is connected to my HD panel via both SCART and hdmi and
it is necessary (regrettably) to switch manually to SCART if you want
auto AR.

Then it's a problem with your HD panel or the video output setting on
your Sky box (or a compatibility problem).

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"Ed" wrote in message
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Silly question, but I have heard bad things about people having to
manually select the HDMI input on their TV when watching an HD
channel on SKy. Is this true, or should it really switch over
automatically? I presume the rest of the channels go through the
scart lead in the normal way

For most TV's everything from the SKY HD box can go through HDMI

The problem is that hdmi does not handle aspect ratio switching.

Everything works fine on my TV with the box output on automatic. SD
4:3 programmes are displayed in 4:3 and widescreen in widescreen. Are
you sure you're not talking about the fact that the 720p/1080i signal
doesn't support switching?

If
you want to have automatic AR switching on non HD channels then you
must connect via SCART.

My SkyHD box is connected to my HD panel via both SCART and hdmi and
it is necessary (regrettably) to switch manually to SCART if you want
auto AR.

Then it's a problem with your HD panel or the video output setting on
your Sky box (or a compatibility problem).

Very interesting Alex!

My SkyHD box is set to 1080i. If I set it to 'Automatic' and then switch
from a HD channel to SD the screen goes blank.
My TV is a Pioneer PDP-434HDE, about 2.5 years old - one of the first HDMI
equipped HDTVs in the UK.

Is your Sky box connected to your TV ONLY via HDMI? I was under the
impression that HDMI does not upport aspect ratio switching. Your TV appears
to be clever enough to determine the correct aspect ratio for SD from the
625i signal via HDMI. Have I understood this correctly? What model TV do you
have?

Malcolm H

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"Ed" wrote in message
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Silly question, but I have heard bad things about people having
to manually select the HDMI input on their TV when watching an
HD channel on SKy. Is this true, or should it really switch over
automatically? I presume the rest of the channels go through the
scart lead in the normal way

For most TV's everything from the SKY HD box can go through HDMI

The problem is that hdmi does not handle aspect ratio switching.

Everything works fine on my TV with the box output on automatic. SD
4:3 programmes are displayed in 4:3 and widescreen in widescreen.
Are you sure you're not talking about the fact that the 720p/1080i
signal doesn't support switching?

If
you want to have automatic AR switching on non HD channels then
you must connect via SCART.

My SkyHD box is connected to my HD panel via both SCART and hdmi
and it is necessary (regrettably) to switch manually to SCART if
you want auto AR.

Then it's a problem with your HD panel or the video output setting
on your Sky box (or a compatibility problem).

Very interesting Alex!

My SkyHD box is set to 1080i. If I set it to 'Automatic' and then
switch from a HD channel to SD the screen goes blank.

Mine flicks between display modes. Sounds like a problem in your TV.

My TV is a
Pioneer PDP-434HDE, about 2.5 years old - one of the first HDMI
equipped HDTVs in the UK.

Is your Sky box connected to your TV ONLY via HDMI?

Makes no difference whether it is or not; I have to switch to scart (or
component) manually in any case if I want that.

I was under the
impression that HDMI does not upport aspect ratio switching.

It does.

Your TV
appears to be clever enough to determine the correct aspect ratio for
SD from the 625i signal via HDMI.

576, I think you mean. I think the fact is that the aspect information
is sent over 576 but not over 720/1080. Have you tried selecting the
576 output (if you can do this) to see if that works properly?

Have I understood this correctly?
What model TV do you have?

It's a JVC.

"Alex" wrote in message
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The problem is that hdmi does not handle aspect ratio switching.

Everything works fine on my TV with the box output on automatic. SD
4:3 programmes are displayed in 4:3 and widescreen in widescreen.
Are you sure you're not talking about the fact that the 720p/1080i
signal doesn't support switching?

If
you want to have automatic AR switching on non HD channels then
you must connect via SCART.

My SkyHD box is connected to my HD panel via both SCART and hdmi
and it is necessary (regrettably) to switch manually to SCART if
you want auto AR.

Then it's a problem with your HD panel or the video output setting
on your Sky box (or a compatibility problem).

Very interesting Alex!

My SkyHD box is set to 1080i. If I set it to 'Automatic' and then
switch from a HD channel to SD the screen goes blank.

Mine flicks between display modes. Sounds like a problem in your TV.

My TV is a
Pioneer PDP-434HDE, about 2.5 years old - one of the first HDMI
equipped HDTVs in the UK.

Is your Sky box connected to your TV ONLY via HDMI?

Makes no difference whether it is or not; I have to switch to scart (or
component) manually in any case if I want that.

I was under the
impression that HDMI does not upport aspect ratio switching.

It does.

Your TV
appears to be clever enough to determine the correct aspect ratio for
SD from the 625i signal via HDMI.

576, I think you mean. I think the fact is that the aspect information
is sent over 576 but not over 720/1080. Have you tried selecting the
576 output (if you can do this) to see if that works properly?

Have I understood this correctly?
What model TV do you have?

It's a JVC.

I have tried 576 over HDMI and get no aspect ratio switching or HD.

The main issue appears to be that my TV doesn't like the 'Automatic'
setting.