Ch4 & 5

|~ A fiver is will be "free" to Sky Subscribers only just like E4 and
|~ 4MORON is "free". ;-)
|~
|~ You will remember how under Astra 19.2 C5 was soft-encrypted but
|~ without a card. Curious how this miracle stopped working under the
|~ Sky controlled system? ;-)
|
|Thanks all. If 4/5 are FTA on Freeview why encrypt satellite?

So that $ky can maintain a monopoly of satellite TV?
or at least the sale of boxes and the EPG!.
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Now now, it's not a monopoly. They are "open" systems. They even call the
interactive **** "open".

It's just that no-one provides satellite EPG services and encryption
services to UK customers outside of Sky. That's hardly Sky's fault. ;-)
yawn... ;-)

Heracles Pollux wrote:

~
~ ~
~ ~ Thanks all. If 4/5 are FTA on Freeview why encrypt satellite?
~ ~
~ ~ -- RKP
~ ~
~
~
~
~ To make money for Sky / Newscorp / NDS.
~
~ To make money for lawyers.
~
~ To pretend that Europe is full of English speaking viewers with 120CM
~ dishes pointed as Astra 2D.
~
~ To pretend that no-one Ebay's Sky viewing cards and second hand set
~ top boxes for about the same price as a DVD and DVD player.
~
~ ;-)

Got it!! :-))

--
RKP

~
~ ;-)

Got it!! :-))

--
RKP



In that case you have greater understanding of the issues than most media
journalists, Parliament, the DCMS, etc. ;-)

R K Pelligo wrote:
When will these channels be totally FTA on satellite? i.e. on a non
Sky FTA box please.

Knowbody knows.

On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:55:58 +0100, "Adrian A" wrote:

|R K Pelligo wrote:
| When will these channels be totally FTA on satellite? i.e. on a non
| Sky FTA box please.
|
|Knowbody knows.

My bet is next year, same as it was last year ;-)
|
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"Heracles Pollux"
So that $ky can maintain a monopoly of satellite TV?
or at least the sale of boxes and the EPG!.

Now now, it's not a monopoly. They are "open" systems. They even call the
interactive **** "open".

s/monopoly/abuse of a dominant market position/ # pedant

Have you looked at the licence terms for the interactive stuff?
It's open, in the way a man-trap is open...

It's just that no-one provides satellite EPG services and encryption
services to UK customers outside of Sky. That's hardly Sky's fault. ;-)

I think someone has usable EPG services, as the Freeview EPG looks like
it's DVB-SI EIT - the same data which should be on satellite.

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MJR/slef
Free Sat FAQ http://mjr.towers.org.uk/blog/2006/astefaq

"MJ Ray" wrote in message
reenews.net...
"Heracles Pollux"
So that $ky can maintain a monopoly of satellite TV?
or at least the sale of boxes and the EPG!.

Now now, it's not a monopoly. They are "open" systems. They even call the
interactive **** "open".

s/monopoly/abuse of a dominant market position/ # pedant

Have you looked at the licence terms for the interactive stuff?
It's open, in the way a man-trap is open...

It's just that no-one provides satellite EPG services and encryption
services to UK customers outside of Sky. That's hardly Sky's fault. ;-)

I think someone has usable EPG services, as the Freeview EPG looks like
it's DVB-SI EIT - the same data which should be on satellite.

--
MJR/slef
Free Sat FAQ http://mjr.towers.org.uk/blog/2006/astefaq



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