Indoor Satellite Television Dish for populated cities?

It would be more polite to address the question rather than
making political speeches. Its probably safer to live in
Iran than rogue states led by insane religious leaders, like
the USA.

--
Jim Watt

"Polite?" **** you.

"Politcal speech?" **** you. Four sentences is a speech?
Its an "opinion." Which I am free to have & express here.

It would be "more polite" of you stick to the topic if you don't like the
thread I started, as a free American.

"Rogue state?" American Freedom is engulfing the world. Its a long & painful
process because a lot of societies fear the evolution & if you don't like
it, fight & die. Many have & more will.

Not to mention "crossposting."

If you dont like the thread, skip over it.

As noted, some types of glass will pass satellite signals, and others won't.
Plain glass works fine. Glass with various kinds of coatings can be a problem.
All glass attenuates the signal somewhat, so double-pane windows will pose more
of a challenge. Plexiglass (ie plastic or acrylic) is better at passing RF
satellite signals than glass.

Regarding a mesh dish, you need to consider what kinds of signals you want to
receive. The comments of the poster below apply to C-band signals, but the
original poster is most likely interested in Ku-band signals, which require a
finer mesh. To pass Ku-band signals, the holes in the wire mesh must be smaller
than a typical pencil.

I would suggest that the best option for the original poster is to find clever
ways to cover an outdoor dish. A big plastic garbage can turned upside down can
work fine. I've seen fake rocks made for this purpose as well (also made of
plastic). You can of course just build a tarp-covered structure or similar.
Basically, anything that fits over the dish and isn't made substantially of
metal should be okay. You might even consider "potting" the dish with lots of
expanding foam, then carving an interesting (or utilitarian) shape from it.


Homer wrote:
I am not really sure how signal can pass a brick wall or a glass
window. I believe when these website are talking about "inside dish"
they are talking about size and not sensitivity.

The only way that I know of is to replace a glass window with a
transparent plastic version (acrylic) and put the dish behind it.

Another way is to make dish from chicken wire. As long as wires are
less than one centimeter apart you will get the signal like the
regulate dish. In this way, dish will be less noticeable if you leave
it outside.




[snip]

On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 22:21:26 GMT, "ORION" wrote:

"Rogue state?" American Freedom is engulfing the world. Its a long & painful
process because a lot of societies fear the evolution & if you don't like
it, fight & die. Many have & more will.

But will last a thousand years ?



--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 15:32:37 -0400, "Bill Kearney"
wrote:

BTW he was trying to 'transmit' them on the internet

Uh no, he was trying to RESELL them. And as such broke the law, regardless
of transmission medium. It'll certainly be interesting to see how that case
gets handled. But without actual details, beyond cut-and-paste newsfeed
text, it's pointless to speculate. Regardless it has little or nothing to
do with supporting your ludicrous claims about safety or religious
leadership influence. It's rather pathetic if what you want to do is
somehow disarm someone else's argument by deflecting the argument to
criticize the country. The two issues just don't conflate. But hey, it's
clear from your other postings you don't exactly possess an excess of
debating skills.

Thats looks rather like the "can't discuss the issues so lets
shoot the messenger" answer.

The reason this guy is in trouble is because your Government
has decided that you are not allowed to see al-Manar because
a small lobby group the 'Coalition Against Terrorist Media'
has campaigned to have it banned.

They have taken away YOUR freedom to watch and listen to the
point of view of those who are bombed and murdered by state
founded by terrorists that engages in assassination and
bombing of its opponents. It has nuclear and chemical weapons
as well as a wide network of intelligence gathering and lobby
groups in your country.

You critisise the Iranian Government for restricting reception
but yours, at the insistance of a small lobby group defending
the interests of a foreign state bans the transmission from the
satellite.

There seems to be little difference in the result.

Your Government is still holding innocent people without trial
in Guantanamo, and stem cell research is banned on religious
grounds by the leader.

Thankfully I somewhere which has not signed up to fast track
extradition to the US for alleged crimes committed
outside your jurisdiction, so can write freely unlike the
those resident in the United Kingdom who can be on a plane
to the US faster than you could say 'Natwest Three' or
David Carruthers.

Now all I wanted to do was advise a guy in Iran how he could
watch Eastenders without drawing the attention of the thought
police. As your Government already can control what is shown
on satellite, is currently trying to control what you can
access on the Internet, and is listening to your phone calls to
make sure you comply - you will have to address your problems
directly, but don't deny they exist.

Now assure me this is not serious ...

http://www.cafepress.com/electionoutlet.39700142


--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

On a sunny day (Fri, 01 Sep 2006 22:21:26 GMT) it happened "ORION"
wrote in
. net:

"Rogue state?" American Freedom is engulfing the world. Its a long & painful
------------------------^^^^^^^^^
violence
Dear Sir, allow me the minor spelling correction.

Thank you
Julius Ceasar

Now go home and get shot.

Unregistered wrote:

Regarding a mesh dish, you need to consider what kinds of signals you want to
receive. The comments of the poster below apply to C-band signals, but the
original poster is most likely interested in Ku-band signals, which require a
finer mesh. To pass Ku-band signals, the holes in the wire mesh must be smaller
than a typical pencil.

You probably mean 'reflect' here, but it might be an idea. It is
important that the mesh holes are closed. Woven corroded wire will not
work. Galvanized chicken wire will, as it is galvanized after forming.
But the holes are too large (perhaps the 1 cm square holesstuff can work)?

Also, the dish shape needs to be exact to a percentage of the
wavelength. This means a C-band dish can be more 'out of shape' than a
Ku-band dish. Making the dish in the right shape will be pretty hard.


Thomas

Jim Watt wrote:

The reason this guy is in trouble is because your Government
has decided that you are not allowed to see al-Manar because
a small lobby group the 'Coalition Against Terrorist Media'
has campaigned to have it banned.

I think nobody would miss Al-Manar's propaganda. But there are more
propaganda channels in the world than this one.

It is strange to see how shallow our 'freedom' is. To quote Roger Waters:

"We've got Mercedes We've got Porsche Ferrari and Rolls Royce We've got
a choice" - indeed.


Thomas