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ASDA Helpline no use on this, apart from offering replacement or refund
(which is more than Argos at least).
Weird problem because you can go into standby and out again an hour
later, but not 12 hours later

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ASDA Helpline no use on this, apart from offering replacement or refund
(which is more than Argos at least).
Weird problem because you can go into standby and out again an hour
later, but not 12 hours later


Seems to me like it uses a capacitive store to power the standby
which may only last a few hours. Aftfer that it won't respond
because it is 'powerless'.

wrote:
Thanks, everybody. Yes it's a cheap piece of crap, but it does
everything well apart from the standby thing, which hopefully they
will sort out in the next upgrade.

Personally, I'd return it as not fit for purpose, get a refund, (Sale of
Goods Act), and try something different.
Just hoping that there is an upgrade to fix it isn't guaranteed to work.

There are a lot of cheap (ie. under £35) boxes around from various sources.




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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message
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But if you take into account the drain on the remotes batteries in
sending the signals
to turn it on and off............

And of course the calorific cost of powering your finger. . .

Good point the energy wasted searching for the remote control would
far out weight any energy saved, infact it would probably accerlate global
warming to a significant extent.



Bill

"Pyriform" wrote


Sounds like typical lazy journalism to me. The following analysis took me
less than a minute to research:

Drax annual CO2 emissions (2005): 20.8 Million Tonnes

Annual CO2 emissions due to standby power, according to the Energy Saving
Trust: 3.1 Million Tonnes.

It follows that Drax *alone* could supply our *total* standby requirements
(not just "overnight") nearly 7 times over.

Standby power *is* an issue, but talking crap about it doesn't help
anyone.


Yes- on looking at the article on the YP website, it was a quote from an
activist.
Here is the article:-


Climate activists gather in Megawatt Valley
Protesters demonstrate against CO2 emissions

Julie Hemmings
LOOMING over the Yorkshire skyline, Drax power station is impossible to
ignore.
Which is why activists have chosen the plant near Selby as the focal point
for 10 days of demonstration, based around the Camp for Climate Action
pitched in the heart of what they are calling "Megawatt Valley".
Drax anticipated a possible invasion on Thursday and earlier this month
obtained an injunction banning protesters from the power station and a
nearby footpath. Copies of the document, with a map showing its extent, are
fixed to its perimeter fence at 50 yard intervals as a reminder to would-be
trespassers.
Dan Lewis, from Leeds, said direct action was the only way to get across a
message ignored by Governments and big business in pursuit of economic
growth.
In his free time the care assistant plants trees with Treesponsibility, a
Calderdale-based community group which promotes sustainable living, and
believes climate change is the biggest threat humanity faces.
Drax is the largest coal-fired power station in Europe and pumps out
millions of tonnes of carbon dioxide as it generates seven per cent of the
UK's electricity.
However, Mr Lewis said this did not even meet demand from all the appliances
left on standby.
"Most people in the world don't live like this," he said of energy use in
developed countries in the early 21st century.
"There is no way of supplying this level of demand indefinitely from finite
resources.
"Our grandparents didn't live like this and our grandchildren won't be able
to."
Groups such as Friends of the Earth are represented at the camp on land next
to Barlow nature reserve, but organisers insist the gathering is open to all
and they have no idea how many will come to stay or join any demonstrations.
They calculated the site, of about 25 acres, would accommodate 2,000 people
and have facilities in place to cope with that number, from composting
toilets to field kitchens.
The camp is set out with a central area of marquees for workshops and
discussion groups – including "action training for day of mass action".
Around the outside lie "neighbourhood" sections for camping, washing and
cooking, with campers grouped by their geographical area.
On arrival at the gatehouse, incomers are taken to the welcome tent – and
the only sofa on site – for a cup of tea and introductions. A medics' tent –
with a solar panel – sits next door.
As the camp took shape over the weekend there seemed to be as many police
officers as protesters, with officers circling the site on foot and by van,
with marked vehicles tucked discreetly behind hedges in woodland all around
Drax.
High-visibility police patrols were in evidence Selby town centre, as a
shuttle-bus from the camp collected rail and bus passengers coming to join
the protest, while marked video vans roamed the country lanes around Barlow.
Police from North Yorkshire were supplemented by colleagues from South
Yorkshire and Durham forces.
Despite the police presence, campaigners said the authorities raised no
objections to the gathering after a site inspection on health and safety
grounds.
A neighbouring farmer is taking waste from the compost toilets and Selby
Council has supplied bins and boxes for recyclables. With a windmill and
solar panels, energy on-site comes from renewable sources and camp vehicles
run on biodiesel.

On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 10:32:31 +0100, "Gripper"
wrote:


I read an interesting piece in the Yorkshire Post recently, concerning the
demonstrations at Ferrybridge power station. Apparently the combined output
of Drax, Ferrybridge and the rest of the Yorkshire power stations is just
sufficient to feed all the electronic devices left in standby overnight.

That's a lot of carbon emissions.

Just taking Drax and Ferrybridge that is 6GW's of generation,
Eggborough just down the road would add another 2GW and there is
another 1GW just to the east of Hull making 9GW in total.

With 25 million households in the UK that is 360W standby load.

Sounds like bull**** to me.





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ASDA Helpline no use on this, apart from offering replacement or refund
(which is more than Argos at least).
Weird problem because you can go into standby and out again an hour
later, but not 12 hours later


My STB can only do OTA updates when in standby.
Maybe yours crashes when it checks to see if the OTA update is for it?

In any case, I would take it back and get one that works properly, there are
plenty about.

Z

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"Dom Robinson" wrote in message
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In article .com,
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Just got the Durabrand CG5660-M freeview box, and everything works fine
except that when you put it in standby mode overnight, it won't come
out of standby. You can pull out the power supply and reconnect, but
then it loses all its settings. Leaving the unit on seems to be the
only way to overcome this.
Thanks for any suggestions


Why would you want to put in into standby? Digiboxes use a negligible
amount
of power either way.

Better to use less power than more of course.

Perhaps you have a different dictionary defintion of the word 'negligible'
than the rest of the country, but it's as near as dammit as makes no
difference. In fact, it's practically no difference at all.

When your VCR is in standby, do you notice a complete reversal of the effect
of the price rises from the electricity company? No you don't.

BTW, when you go to bed, don't forget to unplug your fridge and freezer
because, hey, you only use it when you're opening it up to get something out
of it.

It's a good to idea to switch
things off at the mains overnight. A digibox usually shouldn't lose settings
from complete loss of power, unless it was a REALLY badly thought-out cheap
piece of mess. Sounds like a hardware problem, unless it's just standard on
that model.

I bet you switch your PC off inbetween usage too, even though it'll actually
last longer if you leave it on 24/7, switching the monitor off inbetween which
is fine, since if the components inside the PC are going
cold/hot/cold/hot/cold/etc.
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Dom Robinson wrote:
Better to use less power than more of course.

Perhaps you have a different dictionary defintion of the word
'negligible' than the rest of the country, but it's as near as dammit
as makes no difference. In fact, it's practically no difference at
all.

So on one side of the "talking ********" scale, we have the Yorkshire Post,
telling us that all the power stations in Yorkshire are required just to
supply the nation's overnight standby power. And then on the other side we
have you, telling us that in fact no power at all ("as near as dammit") is
required.

I despair, I really do.

I bet you switch your PC off inbetween usage too, even though it'll
actually last longer if you leave it on 24/7

Done the cost-benefit analysis, have you? Worked out the reduction in MTBF
(and consequent cost) caused by increasing the number of power cycles versus
the ongoing energy cost of running the machine 24/7?

I bet you switch your PC off inbetween usage too, even though it'll
actually
last longer if you leave it on 24/7, switching the monitor off inbetween
which
is fine, since if the components inside the PC are going
cold/hot/cold/hot/cold/etc.

This is complete ********. I've been working with PCs for over 18 years and
its the ones that switched off every night that last the longest.
The components/chips can easily withstand the hot/cold power cycles but if
left on 24/7 all the fans and hard disk will wear out a lot sooner.

Z