Indoor Satellite Television Dish for populated cities?

"Jim Watt" wrote in message
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and only needs a small
non dishlike antenna might be a better choice

I have seen a chicken run with the wire pulled into a parabola working as a
dish.

I wonder if it would be possible to design a parabolic dish with a very long
focal length so that the recieved signal could be reflected to a small
secondary
dish concealable as a 'hanging basket'.

This would have the advantage of the receiving dish being passive and away
from any technology. The secondary dish would not appear to be big enough or
pointed at the correct direction.

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:55:51 +0100, "Hamish"
wrote:

I have seen a chicken run with the wire pulled into a parabola working as a
dish.

C band maybe ku no.
--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

Doesnt sound like you need a dish.

Sounds like you need to leave Iran because indoor dishes will be outlawed
soon enough.
Maybe just long enough for you to make a few bucks...to leave the country.
I see your shrewed plan.

In article , Jim Watt wrote:
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:59:03 -0700, UCLAN wrote:

Glass passes the signal just fine. It is glass that contains lead or
other non passive materials that causes problems.

BULL**** !

Normal window glass attenuates satellite signal considerably
and it does not contain any significant lead.


No you are wrong and UCLAN is correct. Its what is contained in the glass
whether it be added lead or gas in double paned glass that causes the signal
to degrade or reflect, or natural occuring items in the silicate used to make
the glass.

It may be that in the UK you can get a usuable signal with
a medium size dish behind glass, but there you don't even
need a dish to get a signal.

On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 06:27:39 GMT, (GMAN) wrote:

In article , Jim Watt wrote:
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:59:03 -0700, UCLAN wrote:

Glass passes the signal just fine. It is glass that contains lead or
other non passive materials that causes problems.

BULL**** !

Normal window glass attenuates satellite signal considerably
and it does not contain any significant lead.


No you are wrong and UCLAN is correct. Its what is contained in the glass
whether it be added lead or gas in double paned glass that causes the signal
to degrade or reflect, or natural occuring items in the silicate used to make
the glass.

It may be that in the UK you can get a usuable signal with
a medium size dish behind glass, but there you don't even
need a dish to get a signal.

Its a topic which has come up here a number of times
and no doubt will again. Manufacturers of glass are a
bit secretive about the contents of their material
and probably do not measure its adsorption at microwave
frequencies.

Some years ago I did a course in glassblowing and there
was a certain amount of theory about making glass which
is probably out of date, but lead in the form of lead
oxide is added to ornamental glass to enhance its weight
and sparkle, it is not present in any significant amount
in window glass.

Whatever is in the middle of double glazing will not
attenuate the signal at all, but two layers of glass
will.

Where I live there are no double glazing salesmen.

However, for a serious receiving facility, opaque
plastics are a better idea as they are going to
transmit the signal better and provide security.

Thats why radomes are made of plastic not glass.
--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:16:47 GMT, "ORION" wrote:

Doesnt sound like you need a dish.

Sounds like you need to leave Iran because indoor dishes will be outlawed
soon enough.
Maybe just long enough for you to make a few bucks...to leave the country.
I see your shrewed plan.

It would be more polite to address the question rather than
making political speeches. Its probably safer to live in
Iran than rogue states led by insane religious leaders, like
the USA.

--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

"Jim Watt" wrote in message
It would be more polite to address the question rather than
making political speeches. Its probably safer to live in
Iran than rogue states led by insane religious leaders, like
the USA.

Oh that's bull****. Those that would sacrifice liberty for safety deserve
neither.

Is it "better" to bother putting yourself at greater risk to circumvent the
outrageous local laws or get the laws changed? Sure, in the short term it
might seem convenient to find ways to break the law because it's cheaper or
easier. But the same government that would make such an outrageous law is
quite likely to impose equally outrageous penalities if they catch you
trying to cheat. And for something as basic as being able to get
information and to freely communicate with others it's outrageous to put up
with laws like that.

As for "religious leaders", please, you apparently no nothing about what
influences actually exist, in the US or Iran.

On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 10:30:53 -0400, "Bill Kearney"
wrote:


"Jim Watt" wrote in message
It would be more polite to address the question rather than
making political speeches. Its probably safer to live in
Iran than rogue states led by insane religious leaders, like
the USA.

Oh that's bull****. Those that would sacrifice liberty for safety deserve
neither.

I don't know about soc.culture.iranian but the other groups
this message is cross posted to are groups concerned with
addressing technical problems rather than the modality of
overthrowing governments.

But as you want to stand up for freedom heres something
closer to home.

Man Posts Bail in Hezbollah TV Case
NY Times
By JENNIFER 8. LEE and WILLIAM K. RASHBAUM

Published: August 29, 2006

A Staten Island man charged with trying to transmit broadcasts from
an Arabic television station controlled by Hezbollah was released on
bail yesterday, the law firm representing him said.

The man, Javed Iqbal, 42, returned to his two-story home in Mariners
Harbor yesterday after a friend signed as his guarantor. Mr. Iqbal
plans to post his house as security against the $250,000 bond by the
end of the month, the law firm said. At his home yesterday, his wife
said he declined to comment.

On Thursday, Mr. Iqbal was charged with one count of conspiring to
violate the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, a federal
law that allows the president to regulate commercial and financial
transactions in response to a threat to national security or foreign
policy.

The government said Mr. Iqbal sought to provide customers services
that included satellite broadcasts of the television station, Al
Manar. That is a violation of federal law, since the station which
is controlled by the Lebanese group Hezbollah was designated a
global terrorist entity by the United States Treasury Department in
March.

/more

BTW he was trying to 'transmit' them on the internet


--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

BTW he was trying to 'transmit' them on the internet

Uh no, he was trying to RESELL them. And as such broke the law, regardless
of transmission medium. It'll certainly be interesting to see how that case
gets handled. But without actual details, beyond cut-and-paste newsfeed
text, it's pointless to speculate. Regardless it has little or nothing to
do with supporting your ludicrous claims about safety or religious
leadership influence. It's rather pathetic if what you want to do is
somehow disarm someone else's argument by deflecting the argument to
criticize the country. The two issues just don't conflate. But hey, it's
clear from your other postings you don't exactly possess an excess of
debating skills.