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Old August 29th 06, 07:59 PM posted to soc.culture.iranian,alt.radio.satellite,rec.video.satellite.dbs,alt.satellite.tv.europe,alt.satellite
UCLAN
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Default Indoor Satellite Television Dish for populated cities?

Jan Panteltje wrote:

An way would be to do some research into materials that pass the satellite
frequency and are strong anough to be used for a roof, or a window in a roof.
Glass and many plastics do not qualify, but these materials exist.
Your students can likely find these.


Glass passes the signal just fine. It is glass that contains lead or
other non passive materials that causes problems.
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Old August 29th 06, 08:57 PM posted to soc.culture.iranian,alt.radio.satellite,rec.video.satellite.dbs,alt.satellite.tv.europe,alt.satellite
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:59:03 -0700, UCLAN wrote:

Glass passes the signal just fine. It is glass that contains lead or
other non passive materials that causes problems.


BULL**** !

Normal window glass attenuates satellite signal considerably
and it does not contain any significant lead.

It may be that in the UK you can get a usuable signal with
a medium size dish behind glass, but there you don't even
need a dish to get a signal.
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Old August 29th 06, 08:59 PM posted to soc.culture.iranian,alt.radio.satellite,rec.video.satellite.dbs,alt.satellite.tv.europe,alt.satellite
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:49:13 -0600, Jim Nusbaum
wrote:

Actually I think you can receive the signal through glass (a large window) just fine.


That was not my experience when I tried it with a 1m dish here
in my kitchen on Astra 1 - got bugger all with the window
shut and a strong signal with it open.
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Old August 29th 06, 11:00 PM posted to soc.culture.iranian,alt.radio.satellite,rec.video.satellite.dbs,alt.satellite.tv.europe,alt.satellite
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just annonced :
Hi Charles,

The new president of Iran (Ahmadinejad) has ordered to
collect all the outside satellite dishes.



How about kicking his ass, and burning his beige windbreaker.
mdr


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Old August 30th 06, 06:49 AM posted to soc.culture.iranian,alt.radio.satellite,rec.video.satellite.dbs,alt.satellite.tv.europe,alt.satellite
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Jim Watt wrote:

Glass passes the signal just fine. It is glass that contains lead or
other non passive materials that causes problems.


BULL**** !

Normal window glass attenuates satellite signal considerably
and it does not contain any significant lead.


Histrionics aside, very few installations of window glass are
pure glass.
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Old August 30th 06, 08:04 AM posted to soc.culture.iranian,alt.radio.satellite,rec.video.satellite.dbs,alt.satellite.tv.europe,alt.satellite
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wrote:

Does anyone know a good indoor Satellite Dish that works in
Tehran/Iran?


Take the same size dish that you would normally use outdoors, plus
about 10%. Replace the part of the roof above it with radome plastic.
Most acrylic roofing sheet will also do.

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Old August 30th 06, 10:43 AM posted to soc.culture.iranian,alt.radio.satellite,rec.video.satellite.dbs,alt.satellite.tv.europe,alt.satellite
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:49:29 -0700, UCLAN wrote:

Jim Watt wrote:

Glass passes the signal just fine. It is glass that contains lead or
other non passive materials that causes problems.


BULL**** !

Normal window glass attenuates satellite signal considerably
and it does not contain any significant lead.


Histrionics aside, very few installations of window glass are
pure glass.


There is no such thing as 'pure glass'

Do some resarch into the subject its quite interesting and
an area that has developed a lot in the last decade.

Ornamental glass does have a high lead content which gives
it its characteristic look and feel. Window glass does not.

Although some people in the UK report getting dishes to work
behind glass, that certainly was not my experience in a fringe
area. As glass is going to transmit light better than 12Ghz
microwaves, its counterproductive for stealth and efficiency.

Whats really needed is a plastic thats opaque to visible light
which transmits the desired frequency, as used in radomes.

However assuming one is looking at something larger than a
minidish, its something that the proposed user would need to
think about carefully.

As the idea is clearly to get outside news in a state which
wishes to control the media, perhaps something like Worldspace
radio which will work behind glass and only needs a small
non dishlike antenna might be a better choice and has a number
of new stations.

http://www.worldspace.com

News content is generally in the words rather than the pictures.

Unless of course its a matter of watching Coronation Street where
there is no content in the words either.
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Old August 30th 06, 11:16 AM posted to soc.culture.iranian,alt.radio.satellite,rec.video.satellite.dbs,alt.satellite.tv.europe,alt.satellite
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In article , Jim Watt
wrote:

Although some people in the UK report getting dishes to work
behind glass, that certainly was not my experience in a fringe
area.


So how do you explain that we have a minidish / quad running happily behind
our shop window? We have the Sky HD and a standard box in use and I would
say it was more resilient than the external dish.


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Old August 30th 06, 01:35 PM posted to soc.culture.iranian,alt.radio.satellite,rec.video.satellite.dbs,alt.satellite.tv.europe,alt.satellite
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On a sunny day (Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:16:22 +0100) it happened "Andy Luckman
(AJL Electronics)" wrote in
:

So how do you explain that we have a minidish / quad running happily behind
our shop window? We have the Sky HD and a standard box in use and I would
say it was more resilient than the external dish.


You are secretly running a DVD player ;-)
  #20  
Old August 30th 06, 06:08 PM posted to soc.culture.iranian,alt.radio.satellite,rec.video.satellite.dbs,alt.satellite.tv.europe,alt.satellite
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Take the same size dish that you would normally use outdoors, plus
about 10%. Replace the part of the roof above it with radome plastic.
Most acrylic roofing sheet will also do.


Which, when you get caught, will make things worse for you since you not
only had the prohibited dish but you also conspired to HIDE it.

Overthrow the government.

 




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