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  #11  
Old August 26th 06, 10:23 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Graham
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but isn't Antiference curtain track simply another aluminium extrusion.


Found a reference to it here.
http://www.antiference.co.uk/profile.htm

1969 Antiference acquires the Mono Curtain Rail Company with a factory in
Lichfield, Staffs and with it the facility to produce extruded plastic
curtain track

I would have thought that in 1969 UHF TV aerials would have kept them busy.
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Old August 26th 06, 10:48 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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"-GB-Carpy" wrote in message
k...
I went and found they had one of these One for All's SV-9350 mounted on
the apex, and connected to the Freeview box via only about 5 metres of
cable.

Connected the analyser and found firstly that it was amplifying the
signal by a fair way. I didn't check the specs but it must have been
around 15-20db.

There was a large notch missing in the middle of the UHF bandwidth,
wiping out 2 muxes and an analogue channel. The rest of the signals
ranged from barely acceptable to being ok but with most muxes varying in
strength quite badly across the span (not nice and flat across).

I replaced this with a TCX10A and WF100 downlead (no ****y power injector
inside etc) and the signal romped home with each mux perfectly flat, no
deep notches and a very happy customer.

I took the thing home and the other day found time to have a little play
with it. The conclusion I came to was that it's crap, and I binned it
soon afterwards (minus the brass clamp which might come in handy one
day).


How splendid to find an aerial installer who takes an intelligent interest
in the technology! Instead of merely saying "That thing's a heap of crap
missus" you took the trouble to test it (with an open mind) and identified
some of its deficiencies. In doing so you made the customer realise that
you aren't a cowboy, and I guess you learnt something -- even if it was
only that your suspicions were justified!

You have gladdened my heart Mr Carpy.

Did you by any chance crack the beasly thing open to discover the hi-tech
secrets within that enigmatic plastic?

Bill


Thanks Bill for that. They were a lovely old couple too so was nice to get
it sorted for them.. I didn't crack it open but i reckon i would have had a
job doing so. The cable that it was apparantly supplied with is about half
the diameter of WF100 too so that can't be helping. There's that old chinese
saying - "man who buy high gain one fo all an believe sale hype buy twice"


  #13  
Old August 27th 06, 03:10 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright
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"Graham" wrote in message ...
.

Did you by any chance crack the beasly thing open to discover the hi-tech
secrets within that enigmatic plastic?


On the subject of plastic, I was disappointed that you didn't have an
anecdote about my earlier mention of Antiference curtain track.


Not exactly an anecdote, but some possibly tedious memories. Antiference
have a long history of adding gift coupons to their aerials, the prizes
usually being the products of their sidelines. As a child our living room
was furnished for many years with Antiference camping chairs and tables, and
we had Kirsch curtain rail before we had curtains.

The Antiference free insurance offer was quite amusing. If you filled in a
rather long form which was printed on pink cardboard you were insured
against your public liability if your aerial fell on someone's head,
although anything arising from 'acts of God, civil war, war between nation
states, insurrection, or the detonation of thermonuclear devices' was not
covered.

Bill


  #14  
Old August 27th 06, 09:35 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Richard Wagstaff
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Many thanks to all who responded - much appreciated.

Richard




"-GB-Carpy" wrote in message
k...

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

"-GB-Carpy" wrote in message
k...
I went and found they had one of these One for All's SV-9350 mounted on
the apex, and connected to the Freeview box via only about 5 metres of
cable.

Connected the analyser and found firstly that it was amplifying the
signal by a fair way. I didn't check the specs but it must have been
around 15-20db.

There was a large notch missing in the middle of the UHF bandwidth,
wiping out 2 muxes and an analogue channel. The rest of the signals
ranged from barely acceptable to being ok but with most muxes varying in
strength quite badly across the span (not nice and flat across).

I replaced this with a TCX10A and WF100 downlead (no ****y power
injector inside etc) and the signal romped home with each mux perfectly
flat, no deep notches and a very happy customer.

I took the thing home and the other day found time to have a little play
with it. The conclusion I came to was that it's crap, and I binned it
soon afterwards (minus the brass clamp which might come in handy one
day).


How splendid to find an aerial installer who takes an intelligent
interest in the technology! Instead of merely saying "That thing's a heap
of crap missus" you took the trouble to test it (with an open mind) and
identified some of its deficiencies. In doing so you made the customer
realise that you aren't a cowboy, and I guess you learnt something --
even if it was only that your suspicions were justified!

You have gladdened my heart Mr Carpy.

Did you by any chance crack the beasly thing open to discover the hi-tech
secrets within that enigmatic plastic?

Bill


Thanks Bill for that. They were a lovely old couple too so was nice to get
it sorted for them.. I didn't crack it open but i reckon i would have had
a job doing so. The cable that it was apparantly supplied with is about
half the diameter of WF100 too so that can't be helping. There's that old
chinese saying - "man who buy high gain one fo all an believe sale hype
buy twice"




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Old August 27th 06, 11:05 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Richard Wagstaff" wrote in message
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Many thanks to all who responded - much appreciated.

Richard



The big question is - "Are you still going to buy one?" :-)


  #16  
Old August 27th 06, 11:06 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

"Graham" wrote in message ...
.

Did you by any chance crack the beasly thing open to discover the
hi-tech secrets within that enigmatic plastic?


On the subject of plastic, I was disappointed that you didn't have an
anecdote about my earlier mention of Antiference curtain track.


Not exactly an anecdote, but some possibly tedious memories. Antiference
have a long history of adding gift coupons to their aerials, the prizes
usually being the products of their sidelines. As a child our living room
was furnished for many years with Antiference camping chairs and tables,
and we had Kirsch curtain rail before we had curtains.

The Antiference free insurance offer was quite amusing. If you filled in a
rather long form which was printed on pink cardboard you were insured
against your public liability if your aerial fell on someone's head,
although anything arising from 'acts of God, civil war, war between nation
states, insurrection, or the detonation of thermonuclear devices' was not
covered.

Bill



Blimey, I've just looked at the bottom of out trusty grey plastic camping
plates and mugs and found them made by Antiference.
Pity we never take the TV when we go camping!


  #17  
Old August 27th 06, 11:39 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article ,
Doctor D wrote:



Blimey, I've just looked at the bottom of out trusty grey plastic camping
plates and mugs and found them made by Antiference.
Pity we never take the TV when we go camping!


Rather like the Ecko story. They were a tv/radio set manufacturer who
decided to make their own moulded cabinets. They then found making moulded
plastics was more profitable than making radios/tvs, so they sold off that
side (to Pye) and concentrated on platiscs. Much of the kitchen storage
boxes these days is Ecko.

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  #18  
Old August 27th 06, 02:13 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Graham W
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charles wrote:
In article ,
Doctor D wrote:



Blimey, I've just looked at the bottom of out trusty grey plastic
camping plates and mugs and found them made by Antiference.
Pity we never take the TV when we go camping!


Rather like the Ecko story. They were a tv/radio set manufacturer who
decided to make their own moulded cabinets. They then found making
moulded plastics was more profitable than making radios/tvs, so they
sold off that side (to Pye) and concentrated on platiscs. Much of the
kitchen storage boxes these days is Ecko.


ermm .. that would be Ekco, actually, from the founder's name E.K.Cole.


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  #19  
Old August 27th 06, 03:07 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
charles
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In article ,
Graham W wrote:


charles wrote:
In article ,
Doctor D wrote:



Blimey, I've just looked at the bottom of out trusty grey plastic
camping plates and mugs and found them made by Antiference.
Pity we never take the TV when we go camping!


Rather like the Ecko story. They were a tv/radio set manufacturer who
decided to make their own moulded cabinets. They then found making
moulded plastics was more profitable than making radios/tvs, so they
sold off that side (to Pye) and concentrated on platiscs. Much of the
kitchen storage boxes these days is Ecko.


ermm .. that would be Ekco, actually, from the founder's name E.K.Cole.


true - I can't spell - an least on keyboard

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  #20  
Old August 28th 06, 07:37 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Richard Wagstaff
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Um, No!

Richard


"Doctor D" wrote in message
...

"Richard Wagstaff" wrote in message
...
Many thanks to all who responded - much appreciated.

Richard



The big question is - "Are you still going to buy one?" :-)




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