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Old August 23rd 06, 09:04 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Paul Heslop
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I always thought that one of the advantages of digital would be the
automatic recording of subtitle information onto a dvd if it's
available. I don't mean turning the titles on permanently but putting
them onto the dvd as an option.

Is this a possibility for future machines? Do machines with built in
freeview record subtitle info?

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Old August 24th 06, 12:51 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
JW
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Paul Heslop wrote:
I always thought that one of the advantages of digital would be the
automatic recording of subtitle information onto a dvd if it's
available. I don't mean turning the titles on permanently but putting
them onto the dvd as an option.

Is this a possibility for future machines? Do machines with built in
freeview record subtitle info?


Don't know about DVDs, but at least some Freeview PVRs
(hard-disc recorders) save subtitle information.
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Old August 24th 06, 01:42 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Jukka Aho
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Paul Heslop wrote:

I always thought that one of the advantages of digital would be the
automatic recording of subtitle information onto a dvd if it's
available. I don't mean turning the titles on permanently but putting
them onto the dvd as an option.

Is this a possibility for future machines? Do machines with built in
freeview record subtitle info?


I don't know whether there are currently any DVD recorders on the market
with this capability, but yes, it is technically possible.

There are people who routinely capture subtitled DVB broadcasts either
with their PCs (using PCI-based DVB tuner cards) or with their HDD-based
DVB recorders (such as Topfield or Dreambox) and then massage the
captured MPEG-2 streams with ProjectX and other software tools so that
they can record them on a DVD with (optional) DVD subtitles which can be
toggled on and off at viewer's discretion.

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Old August 24th 06, 02:34 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright
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"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
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Paul (Neurotic to the bone No doubt about it)

Are you absolutely sure there's no doubt? I don't want to worry you, but . .
..

Bill


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Old August 24th 06, 09:06 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Paul Heslop
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JW wrote:

Paul Heslop wrote:
I always thought that one of the advantages of digital would be the
automatic recording of subtitle information onto a dvd if it's
available. I don't mean turning the titles on permanently but putting
them onto the dvd as an option.

Is this a possibility for future machines? Do machines with built in
freeview record subtitle info?


Don't know about DVDs, but at least some Freeview PVRs
(hard-disc recorders) save subtitle information.


hm. Wonder if it's transferable?
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Old August 24th 06, 09:07 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Paul Heslop
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Default I know it's probably just silly but

Jukka Aho wrote:

Paul Heslop wrote:

I always thought that one of the advantages of digital would be the
automatic recording of subtitle information onto a dvd if it's
available. I don't mean turning the titles on permanently but putting
them onto the dvd as an option.

Is this a possibility for future machines? Do machines with built in
freeview record subtitle info?


I don't know whether there are currently any DVD recorders on the market
with this capability, but yes, it is technically possible.

There are people who routinely capture subtitled DVB broadcasts either
with their PCs (using PCI-based DVB tuner cards) or with their HDD-based
DVB recorders (such as Topfield or Dreambox) and then massage the
captured MPEG-2 streams with ProjectX and other software tools so that
they can record them on a DVD with (optional) DVD subtitles which can be
toggled on and off at viewer's discretion.

--
znark


That's cool, yeah, it looks like maybe something to look forward to in
the future for stand alones.

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Old August 24th 06, 09:07 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Paul Heslop
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Default I know it's probably just silly but

Bill Wright wrote:

"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
Paul (Neurotic to the bone No doubt about it)

Are you absolutely sure there's no doubt? I don't want to worry you, but . .
.

Bill


Oh, I'm not sure... now I'm even more neurotic!

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Old August 24th 06, 10:27 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default I know it's probably just silly but

Paul Heslop wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:
"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
Paul (Neurotic to the bone No doubt about it)

Are you absolutely sure there's no doubt? I don't want to worry you, but . .
.

Bill


Oh, I'm not sure... now I'm even more neurotic!

I had a Philips VCR that had the option to record subtitles, updated my
system and threw it in the bin because no one wanted it. Anyway I now
have a Topfield satellite PVR, that displays and records sub titles
fine, I would imagine that their digital ones are the same. Incidentally
I bought a Humax before this, and that was useless at subtitles,
particularly ITV, so the vendor swopped it for my Toppy.
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Old August 24th 06, 10:36 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Paul Heslop
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Default I know it's probably just silly but

Broadback wrote:

Paul Heslop wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:
"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
Paul (Neurotic to the bone No doubt about it)
Are you absolutely sure there's no doubt? I don't want to worry you, but . .
.

Bill


Oh, I'm not sure... now I'm even more neurotic!

I had a Philips VCR that had the option to record subtitles, updated my
system and threw it in the bin because no one wanted it. Anyway I now
have a Topfield satellite PVR, that displays and records sub titles
fine, I would imagine that their digital ones are the same. Incidentally
I bought a Humax before this, and that was useless at subtitles,
particularly ITV, so the vendor swopped it for my Toppy.


Thanks. I don't know why the idea of a none removable recorder doesn't
appeal. I think I've always liked the idea of having tapes/dvd
whatever that I can pass around, like a recent recording of a comedy
evening, which obviously would be impossible with a locked in hard
drive machine.

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Paul (Neurotic to the bone No doubt about it)
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Old August 24th 06, 11:42 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
JPG
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Paul Heslop wrote:
JW wrote:

Paul Heslop wrote:
I always thought that one of the advantages of digital would be the
automatic recording of subtitle information onto a dvd if it's
available. I don't mean turning the titles on permanently but putting
them onto the dvd as an option.

Is this a possibility for future machines? Do machines with built in
freeview record subtitle info?


Don't know about DVDs, but at least some Freeview PVRs
(hard-disc recorders) save subtitle information.


hm. Wonder if it's transferable?


If you have a Humax 9200t PVR, you can upload video files to a PC and
you can then create DVDs complete with subtitles. I don't know how
precisely it is done but it involves a fair amount of faffing around,
IIRC.





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