VHF antenna for NYC

I'm looking for a solution to typical multipath problems encountered
in New York City. Signal is probably strong enough, but its
obviously bouncing off lots of buildings.

Some have mentioned the Terk HDTVlp (same as Winegard Sharp Shooter)
as well as the Terk TV-55, but I'm not sure how well those do with
VHF. VHF signal is probably coming primarily from the Empire State
Building (not sure...anyone know?) so I'm guessing that directional
antennas would probably work OK. I don't want to keep repositioning
the antennas.

I was primarily looking for an indoor antenna, but I could also use
smaller outdoor models.

Thanks for comments.

I would forget about any over priced ant made by TERK
"rob" wrote in message
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I'm looking for a solution to typical multipath problems encountered
in New York City. Signal is probably strong enough, but its
obviously bouncing off lots of buildings.

Some have mentioned the Terk HDTVlp (same as Winegard Sharp Shooter)
as well as the Terk TV-55, but I'm not sure how well those do with
VHF. VHF signal is probably coming primarily from the Empire State
Building (not sure...anyone know?) so I'm guessing that directional
antennas would probably work OK. I don't want to keep repositioning
the antennas.

I was primarily looking for an indoor antenna, but I could also use
smaller outdoor models.

Thanks for comments.

all the stations are UHF
"rob" wrote in message
news
I'm looking for a solution to typical multipath problems encountered
in New York City. Signal is probably strong enough, but its
obviously bouncing off lots of buildings.

Some have mentioned the Terk HDTVlp (same as Winegard Sharp Shooter)
as well as the Terk TV-55, but I'm not sure how well those do with
VHF. VHF signal is probably coming primarily from the Empire State
Building (not sure...anyone know?) so I'm guessing that directional
antennas would probably work OK. I don't want to keep repositioning
the antennas.

I was primarily looking for an indoor antenna, but I could also use
smaller outdoor models.

Thanks for comments.

"rob" wrote in message
news
I'm looking for a solution to typical multipath problems encountered
in New York City. Signal is probably strong enough, but its
obviously bouncing off lots of buildings.

Some have mentioned the Terk HDTVlp (same as Winegard Sharp Shooter)
as well as the Terk TV-55, but I'm not sure how well those do with
VHF. VHF signal is probably coming primarily from the Empire State
Building (not sure...anyone know?) so I'm guessing that directional
antennas would probably work OK. I don't want to keep repositioning
the antennas.

I was primarily looking for an indoor antenna, but I could also use
smaller outdoor models.

Thanks for comments.


Try a channel-master 3021, outdoor UHF '4-bowtie'. ~$22.

Darvid wrote:

"rob" wrote in message
news
I'm looking for a solution to typical multipath problems encountered
in New York City. Signal is probably strong enough, but its
obviously bouncing off lots of buildings.

Some have mentioned the Terk HDTVlp (same as Winegard Sharp Shooter)
as well as the Terk TV-55, but I'm not sure how well those do with
VHF. VHF signal is probably coming primarily from the Empire State
Building (not sure...anyone know?) so I'm guessing that directional
antennas would probably work OK. I don't want to keep repositioning
the antennas.

I was primarily looking for an indoor antenna, but I could also use
smaller outdoor models.

Thanks for comments.



Try a channel-master 3021, outdoor UHF '4-bowtie'. ~$22.

If he is in an apartment, the Channel Master 3021/4221 may be too
bulky. If the distance to the broadcast transmitters on the Empire State
building is under 15 miles, I would suggest he try a Zenith Silver
Sensor. But if multipath is a problem, the key is to get a later
generation ATSC receiver which is better with multipath.

But all of the VHF stations in NYC are currently broadcasting their
digital channels on UHF channels, AFAIK. So a UHF antenna is what is
required, not VHF. I will also add that Terk antennas are generally
considered to be among the worst made antennas around.

Websites for reference:
www.antennaweb.org
http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ISSUES/erecting_antenna.html

Alan F

On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:02:13 -0400, AlanF
wrote:

Darvid wrote:

"rob" wrote in message
news
I'm looking for a solution to typical multipath problems encountered
in New York City. Signal is probably strong enough, but its
obviously bouncing off lots of buildings.

I was primarily looking for an indoor antenna, but I could also use
smaller outdoor models.

Try a channel-master 3021, outdoor UHF '4-bowtie'. ~$22.

If he is in an apartment, the Channel Master 3021/4221 may be too
bulky. If the distance to the broadcast transmitters on the Empire State
building is under 15 miles, I would suggest he try a Zenith Silver
Sensor. But if multipath is a problem, the key is to get a later
generation ATSC receiver which is better with multipath.

But all of the VHF stations in NYC are currently broadcasting their
digital channels on UHF channels, AFAIK. So a UHF antenna is what is
required, not VHF. I will also add that Terk antennas are generally
considered to be among the worst made antennas around.

I guess I missed a key word: "Analog." Since I don't know much about
TV antennas, I tried searching for info and found that the relevant
posts and expertise seemed to be on this group. I thought that most
of the RF problems related to both realms. (Also open to suggestions
for other news groups, but I could not locate them)

So, while I'll be looking for antennas for digital later, current sets
are good old analog. So the broadcast, I presume, is still on VHF.

Comments about Terk are appreciated. I've never had good luck with
anything they made, but I thought that their HDTVlp and maybe other
products were designed out of house.

You're correct in that the Channel-Master looks way huge. I can
probably get away with a panel antenna for outdoor mount. I also need
something for indoors.

Given that I don't need pristine signal quality, and that the sets are
analog anyway, do any other antenna choices come to mind? Is the
HDTVlp be yet another bad Terk antenna?

For an indoor antenna I would highly recommend the Radio Shack Indoor VHF
UHF HDTV Amplified Antenna model # 15-1892.

I was amazed at all the local channels it picked up for me at 30 miles away.



If you are interested in one let me know I can give you a good price on only
one..

When I bought, I bought 2 of them and I am only using one.

e-mail me at





"rob" wrote in message
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I'm looking for a solution to typical multipath problems encountered
in New York City. Signal is probably strong enough, but its
obviously bouncing off lots of buildings.

Some have mentioned the Terk HDTVlp (same as Winegard Sharp Shooter)
as well as the Terk TV-55, but I'm not sure how well those do with
VHF. VHF signal is probably coming primarily from the Empire State
Building (not sure...anyone know?) so I'm guessing that directional
antennas would probably work OK. I don't want to keep repositioning
the antennas.

I was primarily looking for an indoor antenna, but I could also use
smaller outdoor models.

Thanks for comments.

All terks are over priced and or a copy of other over priced ant that LOOK
good but do not work very well
"Rob" wrote in message
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On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:02:13 -0400, AlanF
wrote:

Darvid wrote:

"rob" wrote in message
news
I'm looking for a solution to typical multipath problems encountered
in New York City. Signal is probably strong enough, but its
obviously bouncing off lots of buildings.

I was primarily looking for an indoor antenna, but I could also use
smaller outdoor models.

Try a channel-master 3021, outdoor UHF '4-bowtie'. ~$22.

If he is in an apartment, the Channel Master 3021/4221 may be too
bulky. If the distance to the broadcast transmitters on the Empire State
building is under 15 miles, I would suggest he try a Zenith Silver
Sensor. But if multipath is a problem, the key is to get a later
generation ATSC receiver which is better with multipath.

But all of the VHF stations in NYC are currently broadcasting their
digital channels on UHF channels, AFAIK. So a UHF antenna is what is
required, not VHF. I will also add that Terk antennas are generally
considered to be among the worst made antennas around.

I guess I missed a key word: "Analog." Since I don't know much about
TV antennas, I tried searching for info and found that the relevant
posts and expertise seemed to be on this group. I thought that most
of the RF problems related to both realms. (Also open to suggestions
for other news groups, but I could not locate them)

So, while I'll be looking for antennas for digital later, current sets
are good old analog. So the broadcast, I presume, is still on VHF.

Comments about Terk are appreciated. I've never had good luck with
anything they made, but I thought that their HDTVlp and maybe other
products were designed out of house.

You're correct in that the Channel-Master looks way huge. I can
probably get away with a panel antenna for outdoor mount. I also need
something for indoors.

Given that I don't need pristine signal quality, and that the sets are
analog anyway, do any other antenna choices come to mind? Is the
HDTVlp be yet another bad Terk antenna?

"AlanF" wrote in message
...
Darvid wrote:

"rob" wrote in message
news
I'm looking for a solution to typical multipath problems encountered
in New York City. Signal is probably strong enough, but its
obviously bouncing off lots of buildings.

Some have mentioned the Terk HDTVlp (same as Winegard Sharp Shooter)
as well as the Terk TV-55, but I'm not sure how well those do with
VHF. VHF signal is probably coming primarily from the Empire State
Building (not sure...anyone know?) so I'm guessing that directional
antennas would probably work OK. I don't want to keep repositioning
the antennas.

I was primarily looking for an indoor antenna, but I could also use
smaller outdoor models.

Thanks for comments.
Try a channel-master 3021, outdoor UHF '4-bowtie'. ~$22.

If he is in an apartment, the Channel Master 3021/4221 may be too bulky.
If the distance to the broadcast transmitters on the Empire State building
is under 15 miles, I would suggest he try a Zenith Silver Sensor. But if
multipath is a problem, the key is to get a later generation ATSC receiver
which is better with multipath.

But all of the VHF stations in NYC are currently broadcasting their
digital channels on UHF channels, AFAIK. So a UHF antenna is what is
required, not VHF. I will also add that Terk antennas are generally
considered to be among the worst made antennas around.

Websites for reference:
www.antennaweb.org
http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ISSUES/erecting_antenna.html

Alan F

You're right, the 3021 is bulky, but it's depth is much less than a SS. It's
also quite cheap and might be worth a try. And it could be hung out of an
apartment window if necessary. Ya never know.

I live in Westchester just under 15 miles from midtown Manhattan. I have
the winegard sharpshooter, got it cheap on ebay, the UHF analog and digital
work great coming is clearly.

The high VHF channels come in decently well. Channels 7, 9, 11, 13 are all
visible and can look very good if you move the antenna around. As for
channels 2, 4, & 5, the low VHF, I have not had any luck picking them up.
The sharpshooter works better than the rabit ears antenna I got from radio
shack, which is actually a pretty good antenna in its own right. You have
to move the sharpshooter around, but when you find the sweet spot it works
really well.

"rob" wrote in message
news
I'm looking for a solution to typical multipath problems encountered
in New York City. Signal is probably strong enough, but its
obviously bouncing off lots of buildings.

Some have mentioned the Terk HDTVlp (same as Winegard Sharp Shooter)
as well as the Terk TV-55, but I'm not sure how well those do with
VHF. VHF signal is probably coming primarily from the Empire State
Building (not sure...anyone know?) so I'm guessing that directional
antennas would probably work OK. I don't want to keep repositioning
the antennas.

I was primarily looking for an indoor antenna, but I could also use
smaller outdoor models.

Thanks for comments.