Using computer as HD tv redux

On 2006-08-06, wrote:
"G-squared" wrote:

As for TV listings without internet acces on the HTPC, I spend a couple
of minutes at work during lunch checking out that nights fare. When I
get home, I set up the recording(s) if needed. No internet access on
the TV computer. No possibility of virus.

Ahh.....Ok didn't know you could do that!

I assumed that Myth "needed" Net access to work at all

If it doesn't.... that's even better as with no connection to
the Net there is no chance for virus infection. Yes?

Even with Myth connected to the Internet, there is no chance for
virus infection.

It's not MS-Windows, you know.

--
Grant Edwards

On 2006-08-06, G-squared wrote:
wrote:
"G-squared" wrote:

As for TV listings without internet acces on the HTPC, I spend a
couple
of minutes at work during lunch checking out that nights fare. When
I
get home, I set up the recording(s) if needed. No internet access
on
the TV computer. No possibility of virus.

Ahh.....Ok didn't know you could do that!

I assumed that Myth "needed" Net access to work at all

If it doesn't.... that's even better as with no
connection to the Net there is no chance for virus
infection. Yes?

I am not a MythTV user but use the ATI software from their website for
the HDTV Wonder. As Wes pointed out, MythTV requires a Linux system
which has virtually no problems with viruses.

Hey Wes, can you manually program MythTV with no internet access? (I
expect the answer is yes)

Sure, but it's much nicer with a program guide (you can
download the program guide material on a different computer and
transfer them via via USB flash-drive or some other media if
you want).

--
Grant Edwards

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:03:50 -0500, me wrote:

I assumed that Myth "needed" Net access to work at all

It doesn't, but if you have internet access it would be plain stupid not
ot use it.
If it doesn't.... that's even better as with no connection to the Net
there is no chance for virus infection. Yes?

There no chance of an infection if you connect it to 1000 nets. Linux
isn't Windows. AFAIK, the only virus protection software for Linux is
software that removes windows viruses so if you have windows machine
connected, they won't get infected. Viruses are one reason I've never run
windows on my own machines. That and I just don't see the point in making
an unethical crook any richer than what he already is. I wouldn't run
windows if it were free either. In fact, I've got several legitimate
versions given to me by the place I worked last. I still won't run it.

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Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:
I wonder if you would "spec out" a system like that. I don't mean with
prices, or even actual components, just what type of component to look
for.

Take a look at StormLogic's Dragon high definition-capable prebuilt
MythTV system (URL:http://mythic.tv/dragon_FAQ.php). StormLogic
publishes all the specs for those who want to build one themselves.

I'm not Wes; for one, I'd like to think I'm, well, less antagonistic
than he is. Howver, he has a point when he says that MythTV works, and
works well, for those who are interested in a "HD TiVo" without any of
TiVo's limitations. I must admit to chuckling whenever I see a
question here or elsewhere asking how to record from a HD video source
with a computer in terms that make it clear the poster, and the
non-Wes respondents, view the task as something akin to cavement
discovering fire.

May I suggest searching the archives of the mythtv-users list (*the*
single-greatest archive--along with URL:http://wiki.mythtv.org/--of
MythTV information; sadly, alt.video.ptv.mythtv is horribly
undertrafficked by comparison) for 'yeechang "my experience with"'? I
try in these messages to talk about the benefits MythTV brings to my
life, as opposed to the usual spate of "Why isn't this working?" moans
and groans.
URL:http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/208553#208553
is an example.

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Homemade 2.8TB RAID 5 storage array:
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What abt using a SlingBox device?

How does it compare to say a Myth machine?

Wes Newell wrote:

It doesn't, but if you have internet access it would be plain stupid not
ot use it.

Understood

But if I lived way out in the woods in a cabin ... I
may not HAVE any Net access. Hence the question.

And yes....I'm thinking abt buying a cabin near a lake
with no Net access so its not just a hypothetical
question

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 16:11:35 GMT, Wes Newell
wrote:

snip
Like I said, I used a Duron 1600, so your system should be more than fine,
but you really need a video card that supports XvMC (Helps decode mep2).
All you need is one or more tuner cards and the software. I use the old
Air2PC cards that you can buy on ebay fror $25 or less (last one I got for
$22). These work great for OTA, but won't do QAM (for clear cable/sat). If
you want/need QAM, then you'll have to look for the cheapest that'll work.
One that works is the Dvico HDTV models. Whatever you get, make sure
it's supported by linux. So get however many you want and install them.
Then get one of the Linux distros that auto configures the box for an HTPC
with MythTV. Knoppmyth and Mythdora are a couple I've used. You can
download these for free and burn the installation CD. Then boot them and
use the auto install. If you decide to do this, use the MythTV newsgroup
(alt.video.ptv.mythtv). There's also lots and lots of info in the links
below.

Wes,

Me again with another question...

I tried downloading Knoppmyth, but I'm on Hughesnet (formerly
DirecWay) satellite service, and so am subjected to FAP on large
downloads. If the file is around 700 MB (as it seems to be) that will
take me over 24 hours of continuous download to get it. Do you know of
any site that will mail a CD of the file?

Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 11:06:28 -0500, wrote:

Thumper wrote:

I can't imagine sitting in front of a computer watching DVDs.

why not?


It's not a pleasant experience for me.
Thumper

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 17:10:12 GMT, wrote:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 11:48:47 -0400, Thumper
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 10:01:35 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

If you buy a computer and don't hook it to the net and set it up once,
where's the worry about viruses and things changing?

How would it gets it programming info if not hooked to
the Net?

You can watch TV without a programming guide.

You can also watch DVDs without a programming guide.


I can't imagine sitting in front of a computer watching DVDs.
Thumper

You might imagine that if you had a wife who wanted to watch
your TV receiver when you wanted to watch a DVD.


I have more than one TV.

Your computer's stereo audio system may be superior to the one
in your TV receiver.


I have a sound system.
This is a reason to have your computer and TV receiver
in separate rooms.


They are.
Thumper

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 17:17:32 -0000, Grant Edwards
wrote:


I can't imagine sitting in front of a computer watching DVDs.

Sorry, but there's no other way to watch a DVD. You can use
either a dedicated computer (AKA "DVD player") or a
general-purpose computer. Both do the job -- though with
somewhat different feature sets.

I occasionally watch DVDs on my laptop. The 1400x1000 LCD display
is absolutely gorgeous, and the upscaling is perfect. DVDs
also look damned nice played through that same laptop upscaled
to 1024x768 and fed to a DLP projector.

You are entitled top your opinion.
Thumper