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Old August 2nd 06, 06:23 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
housetrained
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Any help will be great. I uploaded a couple of items from the Topfield
PVR5800 to computer via USB. They have a .REC suffix. Using MPEG Streamclip
I changed them. (tried loads of different types, MPEG, DV, Quicktime etc.)
Using Ulead Video Studio 6 I tried to burn a DVD but to no avail. Seemed to
burn but would not play on any stand alone DVD player nor any computer.
TIA

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Old August 2nd 06, 10:12 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mark Carver
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housetrained wrote:
Any help will be great. I uploaded a couple of items from the Topfield
PVR5800 to computer via USB. They have a .REC suffix. Using MPEG Streamclip
I changed them. (tried loads of different types, MPEG, DV, Quicktime etc.)
Using Ulead Video Studio 6 I tried to burn a DVD but to no avail. Seemed to
burn but would not play on any stand alone DVD player nor any computer.
TIA


I assume you've had a good sift around in this site ?

http://www.toppy.org.uk/documents/index.php?catid=2


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Old August 2nd 06, 10:13 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:23:52 GMT, "housetrained"
wrote:

Any help will be great. I uploaded a couple of items from the Topfield
PVR5800 to computer via USB. They have a .REC suffix. Using MPEG Streamclip
I changed them. (tried loads of different types, MPEG, DV, Quicktime etc.)
Using Ulead Video Studio 6 I tried to burn a DVD but to no avail. Seemed to
burn but would not play on any stand alone DVD player nor any computer.
TIA


I use ProjectX to demux the Topfield .REC files. Then TMPEGEnc Editor
to strip out unwanted footage and convert to MPG2. At this point the
PC armed with a suitable MPG2 codec will play the files in Windows
Media Player or Power DVD. To get the files to play on a stand alone
DVD player, they have to be authored to DVD standard. ie VOB & IFO
files & burnt to DVD. Go to http://www.toppy.org.uk/ where there is a
forum to help you find the answers to your questions.

David

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Old August 2nd 06, 10:17 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
André Coutanche
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housetrained wrote:
Any help will be great. I uploaded a couple of items from the
Topfield PVR5800 to computer via USB. They have a .REC suffix. Using
MPEG Streamclip I changed them. (tried loads of different types,
MPEG, DV, Quicktime etc.) Using Ulead Video Studio 6 I tried to burn
a DVD but to no avail. Seemed to burn but would not play on any
stand alone DVD player nor any computer. TIA


Are you saying that you loaded the .rec file into MPEGStreamclip, then
saved it to your PC's hard disk as a mpeg file, then burned it to DVD?
If so, then you haven't created a DVD in the same sense as a
commercial DVD. This needs a special structure for the files, which
are called VOBs (though they are equivalent to mpeg). Standalone DVD
players may or may not recognise mpeg files on a DVD, and a PC will
see them and you can play them directly, but DVD player software on
the PC probably won't.

If my guess about what you have done is correct, then you need an
additional step of *authoring* the DVD to create the VOB file
structure (plus any menus, chapters etc. that you want). Lots of
options, some paid for (at various prices), some freeware, some easy
to use, some awkward (not much correlation between easy/paid for and
free/awkward!).

I don't know Ulead Video Studio. It sounds as though it should author
a DVD for you, and also burn it. If you've used it just for burning,
then the problem will be what I described. If you went through an
authoring process as well, then there's another possibility: that
MPEGStreamclip hasn't done the conversion quite right - but please
confirm first whether I've understood you correctly.

André Coutanche




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Old August 2nd 06, 10:36 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
housetrained
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Sorry, didn't make it clear. Ulead is a programme I've used loads of times
to make DVD's from videos using a firewire port. It works fine. But using
the changed toppy files it doesn't work. I will try a few other things and
thanks for all your help so far.
Regards.

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"housetrained" wrote in message
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Any help will be great. I uploaded a couple of items from the Topfield
PVR5800 to computer via USB. They have a .REC suffix. Using MPEG
Streamclip I changed them. (tried loads of different types, MPEG, DV,
Quicktime etc.) Using Ulead Video Studio 6 I tried to burn a DVD but to no
avail. Seemed to burn but would not play on any stand alone DVD player nor
any computer.
TIA

--
John the West Ham fan






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Old August 2nd 06, 11:21 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
André Coutanche
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housetrained wrote:
Sorry, didn't make it clear. Ulead is a programme I've used loads of
times to make DVD's from videos using a firewire port. It works
fine. But using the changed toppy files it doesn't work. I will try
a few other things and thanks for all your help so far.


OK! I do wonder whether the mpeg files MPEGStreamclip makes from .rec
files are wholly kosher. When I make DVDs, I go down the route of
demuxing the .rec file using ProjectX or PVAStrumento, then do any
edits I want, then author from the .mpv and .mpa files.

Good luck!

André Coutanche



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Old August 2nd 06, 11:47 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bob Tidey
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housetrained wrote:
Any help will be great. I uploaded a couple of items from the Topfield
PVR5800 to computer via USB. They have a .REC suffix. Using MPEG Streamclip
I changed them. (tried loads of different types, MPEG, DV, Quicktime etc.)
Using Ulead Video Studio 6 I tried to burn a DVD but to no avail. Seemed to
burn but would not play on any stand alone DVD player nor any computer.
TIA

If you are editing the files you may wish to consider using VideoRedo.

I don't have any direct experience using it with .Rec files but I
believe it handles them without any fiddling and can then output regular
mpeg files for DVD authoring.

VideoRedo itself is one of the best straight editors in my view; frame
accurate, very simple to use, very fast, and keeps the audio and video
in sync.

Although it's not free, you can try it out, and if my experience is
anything to go by you'd soon be a convert.
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Old August 3rd 06, 12:13 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Nigel Whitfield
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Files from MPEG StreamClip should work fine - they certainly do on my
Mac, which is how I usually burn stuff from the Toppy - convert and
edit in StreamClip, then drag into Toast.

That said, I'm using Apple's MPEG 2 component, which may make a
difference; and of course although the files are MPEG, if they're from
some channels, they may not be a valid DVD resolution, and things could
be falling down there, depending on the burning software being used.

Nigel.

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Old August 4th 06, 12:00 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
housetrained
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"housetrained" wrote in message
...
Any help will be great. I uploaded a couple of items from the Topfield
PVR5800 to computer via USB. They have a .REC suffix. Using MPEG
Streamclip I changed them. (tried loads of different types, MPEG, DV,
Quicktime etc.) Using Ulead Video Studio 6 I tried to burn a DVD but to no
avail. Seemed to burn but would not play on any stand alone DVD player nor
any computer.
TIA

--
John the West Ham fan




Thanks to you all, but it is now sorted. Using MPEG Streamclip and then Nero
to author and burn it works a treat and is so easy. Maybe my Ulead is a bit
outdated. Anyway, thanks to all of you for your ideas and help. This is one
of the best Newsgroups around.
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John the West Ham fan





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Old August 4th 06, 10:44 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Simon Slavin
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I do wonder whether the mpeg files MPEGStreamclip makes from .rec
files are wholly kosher.


They are. The MPEG-2 format is very clearly defined and the Topfield
files conform to that format. A .rec file is just the MPEG-2 data with
some extra bytes stuck on the front as a header.

Download VLC and try using it to play those files. They'll play fine.
The problem, if you have a problem, lies in how you're burning those files
to DVD. Is there any reason you can't use iDVD ?

Simon.
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