Can somebody recommend a TV for me?

Why not replace it with an LCD TV, there are plenty available within your
budget and if your wife is concerned about size, she'll love you for getting
an LCD!

On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:10:18 -0700, Steve Bosell wrote:


Why not replace it with an LCD TV, there are plenty available within your
budget and if your wife is concerned about size, she'll love you for getting
an LCD!


LCD != ATSC/DVB/etc.

Just cause it lacks a tube doesn't mean it can receive digital broadcast
tv directly. They'll have VGA/DVI inputs which will help you connect
to a cable box, but that cable box will probably have component TV
and composite and drive an ancient CRT just fine.

In article , AZ
Nomad wrote:

On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:10:18 -0700, Steve Bosell wrote:


Why not replace it with an LCD TV, there are plenty available within your
budget and if your wife is concerned about size, she'll love you for getting
an LCD!


LCD != ATSC/DVB/etc.

Just cause it lacks a tube doesn't mean it can receive digital broadcast
tv directly. They'll have VGA/DVI inputs which will help you connect
to a cable box, but that cable box will probably have component TV
and composite and drive an ancient CRT just fine.



Right. That's what I get from reading about products.

So recommend something specific in the $700-$1200 range that may serve
my needs post 2009.

Or am I really not going to get anything good in that (slightly higher)
price range?

- Steve

On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:18:58 -0400, Steve Maser wrote:


In article , AZ
Nomad wrote:

On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:10:18 -0700, Steve Bosell wrote:


Why not replace it with an LCD TV, there are plenty available within your
budget and if your wife is concerned about size, she'll love you for getting
an LCD!


LCD != ATSC/DVB/etc.

Just cause it lacks a tube doesn't mean it can receive digital broadcast
tv directly. They'll have VGA/DVI inputs which will help you connect
to a cable box, but that cable box will probably have component TV
and composite and drive an ancient CRT just fine.



Right. That's what I get from reading about products.

So recommend something specific in the $700-$1200 range that may serve
my needs post 2009.

Or am I really not going to get anything good in that (slightly higher)
price range?

My advice would be to ignore what is going to happen post 2009 and just get
what meets your needs now. If you use cable tv, then the cablebox will
solve your problems.

In article , AZ
Nomad wrote:
My advice would be to ignore what is going to happen post 2009 and
just get
what meets your needs now. If you use cable tv, then the cablebox will
solve your problems.


Fair enough.


For those of you with LCD TVs (that might still be reading this
thread...)

I was looking at the Sony Bravia Flat-Panel KDL-26S2000 LCD HDTV, but
it's not clear to me that it has an *input* for basic coaxial cable TV
connections.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...4483307/ref=pd
_bbs_1/104-0262261-1280722?ie=UTF8


Is this something that some LCD TVs have and others don't have?

For example, this one says:

In the box: 26-inch Bravia LCD television, tabletop stand, remote
control (with batteries), coaxial cable, HD15-to-HD15 cable, printed
operating instructions


but looking at the technical details doesn't necessarily say there's
*input* for Coaxial cable TV (ie, it also says:

Connections: 3 composite A/V (1 side), 2 S-Video (1 side), 2 component
(Y/Pb/Pr), 1 HDMI, 1 RF

Is this something I need to see specified before knowing if it exists?
Or is it just assumed that all TVs have a coaxial cable connection?

- Steve

In article , Steve Maser
wrote:
Connections: 3 composite A/V (1 side), 2 S-Video (1 side), 2 component
(Y/Pb/Pr), 1 HDMI, 1 RF

Is this something I need to see specified before knowing if it exists?
Or is it just assumed that all TVs have a coaxial cable connection?

- Steve


duh. Nevermind. "RF" = "coaxial cable"

I need to read a bit closer.


Anybody have any thoughts about that TV (or the BRAVIA line?)

Or the general way coaxial cable looks on an LCD TV?

- Steve

Steve Maser wrote:
In article , Robert
Gammon wrote:


At prices under $600 for a set that you will only use for 2.5 years,
almost anything offered at Walmart will work just as well.

They have several models that are under $700 with 720p capability, 20
inch to 26 inch,

Even one SD TV 32inch with ATSC and NTSC tuners included for $276,





Why would any set I buy now only last for 2.5 years?

- Steve


Any set you buy today that does NOT have an ATSC tuner in it will go
dark, no picture no sound unless at that time you ALSO buy an external
tuner box.

All NTSC TVs that do not have an ATSC tuner in them in the Spring of
2009 will have to either get an external tuner ($388 currently at
WalMart), or will have to be junked and replaced by a TV that has an
ATSC tuner.

The ATSC tuner for true Digital TV, regardless of whether you see it in
480i, 720p, 1080i mode is the need in 2009. Almost all TVs sold today,
even the $135 models at Walmart with a 21" CRT in them have component
video inputs and a ATSC tuner could be attached to them at any time

Steve Maser wrote:
In article , Robert
Gammon wrote:
At prices under $600 for a set that you will only use for 2.5 years,

almost anything offered at Walmart will work just as well.

They have several models that are under $700 with 720p capability, 20
inch to 26 inch,

Even one SD TV 32inch with ATSC and NTSC tuners included for $276,




OK -- assume I could go as high as $1200 -- for something that would
last me through the 2009 switch.

What, then, would you recommend (still in the 27" range)?

- Steve

The two brands you started with Toshiba and Sony have a few models in
this price range

For instance the KDL26S2000 26inch diagonal, has the ATSC tuner inside,
it displays 720p, and costs $1299 at Crutchfield.com. Yes a bit higher
than $1200, but remove the ATSC tuner and the price drops $100

Walmart is selling a Sanyo 26" widescreen 16x9 LCD for 720p viewing for
$697 They also have a Philips 26" widescreen LCD with ATSC tuner built
in for $824. They also have a Panasconic widescreen LCD with ATSC tuner
for 919.54. Some of these items are available as a ship to store for
local pickup at your Walmart

Sams Club offers the Samsung SlimFit TV (CRT) 27 inches ATSC tuner.
$488 receivees and displays 480i/480p/720p/1080i on two component
inputs They also offer a Panasonic 26 inch with ATSC tuner of $937.46


Again, almost all of these units will last you for 6-10 years before
they have a crucial failure. No matter which brand you buy, however,
there will be a few lemons in the stock, so make sure your store has a
good return policy and save the receipt.

AZ Nomad wrote:
On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:18:58 -0400, Steve Maser wrote:



In article , AZ
Nomad wrote:



On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:10:18 -0700, Steve Bosell wrote:



Why not replace it with an LCD TV, there are plenty available within your
budget and if your wife is concerned about size, she'll love you for getting
an LCD!

LCD != ATSC/DVB/etc.

Just cause it lacks a tube doesn't mean it can receive digital broadcast
tv directly. They'll have VGA/DVI inputs which will help you connect
to a cable box, but that cable box will probably have component TV
and composite and drive an ancient CRT just fine.





Right. That's what I get from reading about products.



So recommend something specific in the $700-$1200 range that may serve
my needs post 2009.



Or am I really not going to get anything good in that (slightly higher)
price range?


My advice would be to ignore what is going to happen post 2009 and just get
what meets your needs now. If you use cable tv, then the cablebox will
solve your problems.


But in 2009, you will need a NEW cable box as they will retire all the
non-HDTV cable boxes.

Steve Maser wrote:
In article , AZ
Nomad wrote:

My advice would be to ignore what is going to happen post 2009 and

just get

what meets your needs now. If you use cable tv, then the cablebox will
solve your problems.



Fair enough.


For those of you with LCD TVs (that might still be reading this
thread...)

I was looking at the Sony Bravia Flat-Panel KDL-26S2000 LCD HDTV, but
it's not clear to me that it has an *input* for basic coaxial cable TV
connections.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...4483307/ref=pd
_bbs_1/104-0262261-1280722?ie=UTF8


Is this something that some LCD TVs have and others don't have?

For example, this one says:

In the box: 26-inch Bravia LCD television, tabletop stand, remote
control (with batteries), coaxial cable, HD15-to-HD15 cable, printed
operating instructions


but looking at the technical details doesn't necessarily say there's
*input* for Coaxial cable TV (ie, it also says:

Connections: 3 composite A/V (1 side), 2 S-Video (1 side), 2 component
(Y/Pb/Pr), 1 HDMI, 1 RF


You can hook up the cable TV box via the RF connection (external
antenna, tune to Channel 3)

But you SHOULD hook up via Svideo or component, if the cable box makes
it available.

You will NEVER see an input labeled Cable TV on the unit. The users
manual will suggest the optimum connection, and a bit later show you how
to hook a cable box to it.

Is this something I need to see specified before knowing if it exists?
Or is it just assumed that all TVs have a coaxial cable connection?

- Steve

They all do, its called Antenna In