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Old July 30th 06, 09:16 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
nick
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Default VHS vcr with scart/svideo out

Capturing my old vhs-c tapes onto my pc. My video only has composite via scart, and the quality
is rubbish. What new vcr's (there are not many available) have s-video out? Reading the spec's on
these tells me nothing.


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Old July 30th 06, 10:08 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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"nick" wrote in message
...
Capturing my old vhs-c tapes onto my pc. My video only has

composite via scart, and the quality
is rubbish. What new vcr's (there are not many available) have

s-video out? Reading the spec's on
these tells me nothing.


The old adage is true, crap in = crap out!

Your recordings are in composite and will still be of composite
quality if you converted them SVHS (or indeed feed them through
a Digibeta broadcast deck and out via SDI), I suspect that your real
problem is in your computer capture method - what are you using to
capture, please don't say a USB device...



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Old July 30th 06, 10:34 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default VHS vcr with scart/svideo out

"nick" wrote in message
...
Capturing my old vhs-c tapes onto my pc. My video only has composite via

scart, and the quality
is rubbish. What new vcr's (there are not many available) have s-video

out? Reading the spec's on
these tells me nothing.


Upmarket Panasonic vcr's have 3D DNR and TBC which seem to make a good job
of cleaning up old recordings. I think they stand for "3 dimensional dynamic
noise reduction" and "time base correction". They also have s-video output.


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Old July 30th 06, 10:35 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default VHS vcr with scart/svideo out

In article , nick
writes
Capturing my old vhs-c tapes onto my pc. My video only has composite
via scart, and the quality
is rubbish. What new vcr's (there are not many available) have s-video
out? Reading the spec's on
these tells me nothing.


There are some JVC VCRs that will provide S-video out; you will get the
best performance if your tapes are SVHS.

--
Ian G8ILZ
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Old July 30th 06, 11:00 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default VHS vcr with scart/svideo out


"Stephen" wrote in message
...
"nick" wrote in message
...
Capturing my old vhs-c tapes onto my pc. My video only has

composite via
scart, and the quality
is rubbish. What new vcr's (there are not many available) have

s-video
out? Reading the spec's on
these tells me nothing.


Upmarket Panasonic vcr's have 3D DNR and TBC which seem to make a

good job
of cleaning up old recordings. I think they stand for "3

dimensional dynamic
noise reduction" and "time base correction". They also have s-video

output.


Are you saying that they will convert a composite signal into a
s-video one, or will the above machine just 'clean up' the composite?


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Old July 30th 06, 11:47 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default VHS vcr with scart/svideo out

In article ,
nick wrote:
Capturing my old vhs-c tapes onto my pc. My video only has composite via
scart, and the quality is rubbish. What new vcr's (there are not many
available) have s-video out? Reading the spec's on these tells me
nothing.


VHS is rubbish. And there's little point in having an S-Video output
unless the tapes are recorded as S-VHS.

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Old July 31st 06, 12:18 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Stephen
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Default VHS vcr with scart/svideo out

":::Jerry::::" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"Stephen" wrote in message
...
"nick" wrote in message
...
Capturing my old vhs-c tapes onto my pc. My video only has

composite via
scart, and the quality
is rubbish. What new vcr's (there are not many available) have

s-video
out? Reading the spec's on
these tells me nothing.


Upmarket Panasonic vcr's have 3D DNR and TBC which seem to make a

good job
of cleaning up old recordings. I think they stand for "3

dimensional dynamic
noise reduction" and "time base correction". They also have s-video

output.


Are you saying that they will convert a composite signal into a
s-video one, or will the above machine just 'clean up' the composite?


They clean up the composite signal and output it as s-video. The main
advantage is the cleaning up, due to better than average noise reduction.
There would not be any significant difference between the composite and
s-video output quality on this or any other vcr unless the original tape was
S-VHS.


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Old July 31st 06, 09:10 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Stephen
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Default VHS vcr with scart/svideo out

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
nick wrote:
Capturing my old vhs-c tapes onto my pc. My video only has composite via
scart, and the quality is rubbish. What new vcr's (there are not many
available) have s-video out? Reading the spec's on these tells me
nothing.


VHS is rubbish.


S-VHS can look quite impressive. They comb filter the composite input so E-E
looks very little different to RGB, and have a playback TBC which gets rid
of all the chroma noise you usually get. Compared with a DVD Recorder in 4
hour or 6 hour mode, the S-VHS looks better.


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Old July 31st 06, 10:49 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default VHS vcr with scart/svideo out

In article ,
Stephen wrote:
Capturing my old vhs-c tapes onto my pc. My video only has composite
via scart, and the quality is rubbish. What new vcr's (there are not
many available) have s-video out? Reading the spec's on these tells
me nothing.


VHS is rubbish.


S-VHS can look quite impressive.


It can do - compared to VHS. I got it when it first came out. And the
machine still works. ;-)

They comb filter the composite input so
E-E looks very little different to RGB,


Depends on what you're watching on. ;-)

and have a playback TBC which
gets rid of all the chroma noise you usually get.


ITYM 'most', not 'all'.

Compared with a DVD
Recorder in 4 hour or 6 hour mode, the S-VHS looks better.


But not in half speed to get the same playing time. Half speed is
impressive in monochrome, though.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Old July 31st 06, 10:56 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default VHS vcr with scart/svideo out


"Stephen" wrote in message
...
":::Jerry::::" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"Stephen" wrote in message
...
"nick" wrote in message
...
Capturing my old vhs-c tapes onto my pc. My video only has

composite via
scart, and the quality
is rubbish. What new vcr's (there are not many available)

have
s-video
out? Reading the spec's on
these tells me nothing.

Upmarket Panasonic vcr's have 3D DNR and TBC which seem to make

a
good job
of cleaning up old recordings. I think they stand for "3

dimensional dynamic
noise reduction" and "time base correction". They also have

s-video
output.


Are you saying that they will convert a composite signal into a
s-video one, or will the above machine just 'clean up' the

composite?

They clean up the composite signal and output it as s-video. The

main
advantage is the cleaning up, due to better than average noise

reduction.
There would not be any significant difference between the composite

and
s-video output quality on this or any other vcr unless the original

tape was
S-VHS.


So in effect they are outputting a composite signal as s-video, the
OP could but a separate box of trick (to adjust colour balance and
re-sync the time-base etc.) far cheaper than a high end VCR. I still
suspect that the real problem is in the way the OP is digitising the
video stream to his computer.


 




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