DirecTV, Echostar (Dish Network) to merge?

"Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote:

That's what I said! They are DirecTV tuners [which are digital by
default] and ATSC is for high definition, which is digital by default.

You got that backwards. ATSC is for digital, and if there is a high definition signal it will decode that, which is digital by default.

Chip

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On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 09:29:57 -0500, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
wrote:

In alt.dbs.echostar Jack Zwick wrote:
In article ,
"Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote:

In alt.dbs.echostar Mark Lloyd wrote:

Separate boxes WOULD be better. The problem now is that no standalone
DVRs have a simple, general-purpose HD INPUT. You'd be left with no
way to use the DVR on HD shows (in HD quality).

Actually, you might be able to accomplish something if you had an ATSC
modulator. Are those available at reasonable prices? Probably not.

The DVR that DirecTV currently offers for HDTV has two high definition DirecTV
tuners (which do standard definition as well) and two ATSC tuners in it to
record locals off of the air. Don't forget the wonderful Tivo software.

They only record DIGITAL locals. HD or SD.

That's what I said! They are DirecTV tuners [which are digital by default]

DirecTV is all digital, no default.

and ATSC is for high definition, which is digital by default.

The OTA tuners seem to be ATSC ONLY. No NTSC capability.

Sounds like you've heard of analog ATSC broadcasts.
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In alt.dbs.echostar wrote:
"Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote:

That's what I said! They are DirecTV tuners [which are digital by
default] and ATSC is for high definition, which is digital by default.

You got that backwards. ATSC is for digital, and if there is a high definition signal it will decode that, which is digital by default.


What is backwards? That I indicated that high definition is digital or ATSC
is for high definition? It would be correct to say that ATSC does not
necessarily mean high definition ... in theory. My point remains that same
and that is I did not indicate that the DVR would record analog locals.

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"Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote:


What is backwards? That I indicated that high definition is digital or
ATSC is for high definition? It would be correct to say that ATSC does
not necessarily mean high definition ... in theory. My point remains
that same and that is I did not indicate that the DVR would record analog
locals.

You just answered your own question.

Chip

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In article , Jack Zwick wrote:
In article ,
"Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote:

In alt.dbs.echostar Mark Lloyd wrote:

Separate boxes WOULD be better. The problem now is that no standalone
DVRs have a simple, general-purpose HD INPUT. You'd be left with no
way to use the DVR on HD shows (in HD quality).

Actually, you might be able to accomplish something if you had an ATSC
modulator. Are those available at reasonable prices? Probably not.

The DVR that DirecTV currently offers for HDTV has two high definition
DirecTV
tuners (which do standard definition as well) and two ATSC tuners in it to
record locals off of the air. Don't forget the wonderful Tivo software.

They only record DIGITAL locals. HD or SD.
And thats a problem? I'd prefer to watch the digital versions of my locals
anyways.

"Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote in
:

The DVR that DirecTV currently offers for HDTV has two high
definition DirecTV tuners (which do standard definition as well) and
two ATSC tuners in it to record locals off of the air. Don't forget
the wonderful Tivo software.

They only record DIGITAL locals. HD or SD.

That's what I said! They are DirecTV tuners [which are digital by
default] and ATSC is for high definition, which is digital by default.


No You said HDTV tuners. You may have meant to say ATSC (the proper
nomenclature), but saying the OTA tuners are HD is just plain incorrect to
say. ATSC can be used for High Definition, but nobody is saying it has to
be. ATSC fundamentally just means digital.

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In news:alt.dbs.echostar, "JoshHutcherson"
posted on 19 Jul 2006 21:01:22 -0700:

THR: Business News:

July 20, 2006

Echostar, DirecTV shares rise on deal prospects

NEW YORK -- The shares in the two leading satellite television
operators, DirecTV Group Inc. and EchoStar Communications Corp., rose
strongly Wednesday as analysts gave credence to the possibility of a
merger between the two companies. EchoStar shares rose by as much as
3.25% to close at $33.08 on the Nasdaq, while DirecTV rose 2.4% to
close at $16.88 on Wednesday. Citigroup on Wednesday reversed its
rating on EchoStar shares to a "buy" from a "sell" on the possibility
the two sides were closer to discussing a deal last abandoned in 2002.
"Our upgrade does not reflect a change in our fundamental view of the
DBS (satellite) industry," wrote Citigroup analyst Jason Bazinet in a
research note. "Rather, it reflects our belief that there is a greater
chance that EchoStar and DirecTV may attempt to merge." (Reuters)

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr..._id=1002876064

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=directv&sa=N&tab=wn

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If they dump the LOUSY and recently hacked Nagravision 2 encryption,
they can eliminate satellite signal theft (hacking). Puts Bell
ExpressVu in a spot to be THE source for hacking since they use the
same equipment and it also puts them way in the middle of nowhere when
it comes to new technology, because I think a DirecTV/Dish Network
merger would have them using DTV's equipment/encryption.
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In news:alt.dbs.echostar, Involuntary posted on Mon,
14 Jan 2008 03:45:40 GMT:

test

Pardon that. I was writing a message and was typing so fast that my screen
flashed and the keys my fingers flew over switched to my outbox folder and
sent the first message that was in there...even though I never intended to
send it. Heh.
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Involuntary wrote:

forerunners and heralds of this great event and to summon all
nations to join with them in the expectation of this Saviour.



Involuntary,

Why are you cross posting all this crap to the satellite newsgroups?
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Bill R wrote:
Involuntary wrote:

forerunners and heralds of this great event and to summon all
nations to join with them in the expectation of this Saviour.


Involuntary,

Why are you cross posting all this crap to the satellite newsgroups?

Apparently there is a bot posting nonsense.

Chip

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