dvd recorder question

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 11:31:56 -0400, "Seth"
wrote:

"Mark Lloyd" wrote in message
.. .

"finalizing" seems to be necessary for multisession support, and
should be entirely automatic unless you're doing that.

It shouldn't be entirely automatic. If it were, you wouldn't be able to add
a session as the disc was already finalized. It is manual because in many
circumstances there is no way for the recorder to know you are done adding
to it.


It could be automatic, when you select an option for "no
multisession".
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"Gray Shockley" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:48:42 -0500, Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:

I believe from the post the OP has a stand alone DVD burner
(like
mine, that uses DVD+R discs)... These discs most certainly
"DO"
require finalizing in order to be read in any other player.


I came across people talking about "finalizing" a few years ago
and
was totally puzzled.

Apparently, this is some sort of Microsoft Windows "feature".

The Humax TiVo/DVD-R recorder doesn't need "finalizing" nor
does my
wife's iMac for CDs, nor my Macintosh G4 MacMini DVD-R/CD, nor
my
LaCie "Lightscribe" external DVD [on the G4MacMini] Recorder
(CD/DVD-R/DVD+R).

Gray

The finalizing is automatic.

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In article , wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:48:42 -0500, Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:

I believe from the post the OP has a stand alone DVD burner (like
mine, that uses DVD+R discs)... These discs most certainly "DO"
require finalizing in order to be read in any other player.


I came across people talking about "finalizing" a few years ago and was
totally puzzled.

Apparently, this is some sort of Microsoft Windows "feature".

The Humax TiVo/DVD-R recorder doesn't need "finalizing" nor does my wife's
iMac for CDs, nor my Macintosh G4 MacMini DVD-R/CD, nor my LaCie
"Lightscribe" external DVD [on the G4MacMini] Recorder (CD/DVD-R/DVD+R).

Gray


Your standalone DVD burner most certainly does need "finalizing" if you ever
hope to make those disks capable of playing in any other dvd player.

In article , Mark Lloyd wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 03:05:52 -0500, Gray Shockley
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:48:42 -0500, Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:

I believe from the post the OP has a stand alone DVD burner (like
mine, that uses DVD+R discs)... These discs most certainly "DO"
require finalizing in order to be read in any other player.


I came across people talking about "finalizing" a few years ago and was
totally puzzled.

Apparently, this is some sort of Microsoft Windows "feature".

The Humax TiVo/DVD-R recorder doesn't need "finalizing" nor does my wife's
iMac for CDs, nor my Macintosh G4 MacMini DVD-R/CD, nor my LaCie
"Lightscribe" external DVD [on the G4MacMini] Recorder (CD/DVD-R/DVD+R).

Gray


"finalizing" seems to be necessary for multisession support, and
should be entirely automatic unless you're doing that.
Has NOTHING to do with multisession, and is not automatic, and is entirely
required to complete and form the standard dvd structure that any other player
will be able to understand. Until you finalize a DVD in the standalone burner,
its basically akin to having an unclosed session on a CDR.

In article , Mark Lloyd wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 11:31:56 -0400, "Seth"
wrote:

"Mark Lloyd" wrote in message
. ..

"finalizing" seems to be necessary for multisession support, and
should be entirely automatic unless you're doing that.

It shouldn't be entirely automatic. If it were, you wouldn't be able to add
a session as the disc was already finalized. It is manual because in many
circumstances there is no way for the recorder to know you are done adding
to it.


It could be automatic, when you select an option for "no
multisession".
Jesus H, we are talking settop standalone recorders, not ANYTHING to do with
computers!!!!!!! There is no such thing as multisession on a standalone
recorder. Basically the disk is left in limbo and only playable on the
standalone that the disk is being recorded on until you finalize it and then
it has the standard structure written to it that all standalone DVD players
can understand.

In article [email protected], "Travis M." wrote:
"Gray Shockley" wrote in message
s.com
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:48:42 -0500, Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:

I believe from the post the OP has a stand alone DVD burner
(like
mine, that uses DVD+R discs)... These discs most certainly
"DO"
require finalizing in order to be read in any other player.


I came across people talking about "finalizing" a few years ago
and
was totally puzzled.

Apparently, this is some sort of Microsoft Windows "feature".

The Humax TiVo/DVD-R recorder doesn't need "finalizing" nor
does my
wife's iMac for CDs, nor my Macintosh G4 MacMini DVD-R/CD, nor
my
LaCie "Lightscribe" external DVD [on the G4MacMini] Recorder
(CD/DVD-R/DVD+R).

Gray

The finalizing is automatic.


Not on a standalone recorder. If it was that would be the most useless DVD
Settop Recorder on the market.

In article [email protected], wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 03:05:52 -0500, Gray Shockley wrote:

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:48:42 -0500, Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:

I believe from the post the OP has a stand alone DVD burner (like
mine, that uses DVD+R discs)... These discs most certainly "DO"
require finalizing in order to be read in any other player.


I came across people talking about "finalizing" a few years ago and was
totally puzzled.

Apparently, this is some sort of Microsoft Windows "feature".

Nope.

The Humax TiVo/DVD-R recorder doesn't need "finalizing" nor does my
wife's iMac for CDs, nor my Macintosh G4 MacMini DVD-R/CD, nor my LaCie
"Lightscribe" external DVD [on the G4MacMini] Recorder (CD/DVD-R/DVD+R).

There's a lot more to it than yes or no.

http://www.plextorshop.com/support/faqs/G00017.htm

The above URL has nothing to do with or in common with DVD recording on a
settop recorder.

On 2006-07-25, GMAN wrote:
In article [email protected], wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 03:05:52 -0500, Gray Shockley wrote:

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:48:42 -0500, Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:

I believe from the post the OP has a stand alone DVD burner (like
mine, that uses DVD+R discs)... These discs most certainly "DO"
require finalizing in order to be read in any other player.


I came across people talking about "finalizing" a few years ago and was
totally puzzled.

Apparently, this is some sort of Microsoft Windows "feature".

Nope.

The Humax TiVo/DVD-R recorder doesn't need "finalizing" nor does my
wife's iMac for CDs, nor my Macintosh G4 MacMini DVD-R/CD, nor my LaCie
"Lightscribe" external DVD [on the G4MacMini] Recorder (CD/DVD-R/DVD+R).

There's a lot more to it than yes or no.

http://www.plextorshop.com/support/faqs/G00017.htm

The above URL has nothing to do with or in common with DVD recording on a
settop recorder.

Sure it does. A settop DVD recorder is nothing but a stripped down
PC without any permanent storage and a DVD burner. The same considerations
that would be in place for any burner on a "real machine" is going to be
present for the settop boxes. The formats don't magically change just because
you are using a crude and highly cripppled application to do your mastering.

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On 2006-07-25, GMAN wrote:
In article , wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:48:42 -0500, Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:

I believe from the post the OP has a stand alone DVD burner (like
mine, that uses DVD+R discs)... These discs most certainly "DO"
require finalizing in order to be read in any other player.


I came across people talking about "finalizing" a few years ago and was
totally puzzled.

Apparently, this is some sort of Microsoft Windows "feature".

The Humax TiVo/DVD-R recorder doesn't need "finalizing" nor does my wife's
iMac for CDs, nor my Macintosh G4 MacMini DVD-R/CD, nor my LaCie
"Lightscribe" external DVD [on the G4MacMini] Recorder (CD/DVD-R/DVD+R).

Gray


Your standalone DVD burner most certainly does need "finalizing" if you ever
hope to make those disks capable of playing in any other dvd player.

You're confused.

Explicit finalizing is only required if you want to put more than
one recording on a single piece of media (IOW, treat that DVD/RW like a
VCR tape). Otherwise, the burner can just finalize the disk without the
end user being aware of the finer points.

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better things to do with my time than deal with how iTunes doesn't / | \
want to play nicely with everyone else's data (namely mine). I'd
rather create a DVD using those Linux apps we're told don't exist.

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JEDIDIAH wrote:
On 2006-07-25, GMAN wrote:
Your standalone DVD burner most certainly does need "finalizing" if you ever
hope to make those disks capable of playing in any other dvd player.

You're confused.

Explicit finalizing is only required if you want to put more than
one recording on a single piece of media (IOW, treat that DVD/RW like a
VCR tape). Otherwise, the burner can just finalize the disk without the
end user being aware of the finer points.

Finalising essentially writes the TOC for a disk. This TOC is required
for DVD-Video compatibility. Most DVD players require the TOC. A
device that expects to be able to add content to a disk (eg a DVD
Recorder) will scan an unfinalised disk to avoid needing the TOC, and
that's why you can put multiple recordings onto a disk.

Most set top DVD Recorders require an explicit finalising, because they
expect you to record more than one show. Computer based DVD writing
software (eg Nero) typically has a checkbox for finalising as you burn.

The exception is DVD+RW which builds the TOC as you go, and DVD-RAM which
is a law unto itself :-)

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