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Old July 21st 06, 04:36 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.comp.hardware,alt.computer
BuckRabbit
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I feel like turning my monitor through 90 degrees, can you do this with some monitors?




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Actually yes you can, with nvida software you have the option of rotating the screen in increments of 90 degrees (90, 180, 270) so
you can hoist your monitor on it's side and view the whole page if that's what you desire. Even on a standard CRT monitor you can
see the whole page if you sit it up sideways with the screen rotated.

Hope this was of some assistance
Buck


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Old July 21st 06, 05:44 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.comp.hardware,alt.computer
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Bazzer Smith wrote:
"Rod Speed" wrote in message
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Bazzer Smith wrote:
Can anyone with a WS monitor tell me the ratio of the free screen
area, its a bit har d for me to work out. I am working on the
basis you have 3 (tool)bars at the top and the start button bar
at the bottom. There is also a 'mini-bar' above both these bars,
in a normal set up.

I cant see that it matters much given that so few web
pages even attempt to fit on the screen vertically.


It is when reading text you have to scroll horizontal ever line,
vertically it is only every 20 lines or so.


OK, but the better browsers fix that horiz scrolling problem.


Such as which browsers?
Do they do the scrolling for you by mindreading or reformat the screen?


If you tell them to make it fit horizontally, they do that
using the font size, just like Acrobat Reader does.


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Old July 21st 06, 08:13 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.comp.hardware,alt.computer
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Default Standard or Widescreen monitor?

In article ,
Bazzer Smith wrote:
I will be buying a new monitor but which type should I buy?


[Snip]

I feel like turning my monitor through 90 degrees, can you do this with
some monitors?


Yes, my 20" Dell does this.




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Old July 21st 06, 08:32 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.comp.hardware,alt.computer
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"Bazzer Smith" wrote:

I kind of see a big problem with them because obviously they are too sort in
height.
For example, many PDF documents are A4 page size, this is a problem in say
Adobe Acrobat because even on a standard monitor you can only see about half
the page, it will be much worse on a WS. I feel like turning my monitor
through
90 degrees, can you do this with some monitors?


That's a function of some video cards, but not natively in any monitor I
think. It seems to me that a 16:9 monitor on it's side would be too
narrow, but a 4:3 on its side should be OK.

When I bought a laptop not so long ago, I selected one of the dwindling
number with 4:3 screens - because of common document formats and because
it's better for coding and word-processing. Unless you are going to be
using it *mostly* for video, then I'd suggest that you do go for 4:3.

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Old July 21st 06, 08:59 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.comp.hardware,alt.computer
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Do yourself a favour. Buy a 19" flat LCD 4.3. You will wonder how you
managed with that old 17" for so long!

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"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message
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I will be buying a new monitor but which type should I buy?
I will admit I am not widescreens biggest 'fan', however what I
like is pretty immaterial as I can't control the format in which
other people produce 'media'.
I currently have a bog standard 14" CRT monitor but I think I will
be going flatscreen (LCD etc) because I want a good sized monitor
and CRT takes up too much room really.
Even now some sites seem to be standard and other widescreen so
whatever I get it wil be 'wrong'. (Thanks to the 'inventor' of
widescreen).

Do any of you have a WS monitor?

Do you like them?

I kind of see a big problem with them because obviously they are too sort
in height.
For example, many PDF documents are A4 page size, this is a problem in say
Adobe Acrobat because even on a standard monitor you can only see about
half
the page, it will be much worse on a WS. I feel like turning my monitor
through
90 degrees, can you do this with some monitors?

Also there is all the toolbars etc (google norton etc...) which reduce the
vertical
height of the screen anyway, making my standard monitor, widescreen in a
way,
on a true widescreen monitor doesn't this look kind of ridulous? The
'useable'
screen area must be 5.75 by 10.75 which is a ratio of 1.86:1
on a WS monitor the situation will be even worse, I am thinking it is
going to
be close to 2.5:1 or even 3:1.

Can anyone with a WS monitor tell me the ratio of the free screen area,
its a bit
har d for me to work out. I am working on the basis you have 3 (tool)bars
at the top and the start button bar at the bottom. There is also a
'mini-bar'
above both these bars, in a normal set up.


Another point is 'native resolution', or whatever, will this affect
things?

I am probably thinking a big standard shape monitor would be best?
I incidently I have a Freecom DTTV stick so I sometime watch TV
on my PC, but the monitor shape is not really a problem as you watch in
a nicely framed box, you don't get black ugly bars wasteing space as you
do on a proper TV.



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Old July 21st 06, 09:59 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.comp.hardware,alt.computer
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Dave Farrance wrote:
"Bazzer Smith" wrote:

I kind of see a big problem with them because obviously they are too sort in
height.
For example, many PDF documents are A4 page size, this is a problem in say
Adobe Acrobat because even on a standard monitor you can only see about half
the page, it will be much worse on a WS. I feel like turning my monitor
through
90 degrees, can you do this with some monitors?


That's a function of some video cards, but not natively in any monitor I
think. It seems to me that a 16:9 monitor on it's side would be too
narrow, but a 4:3 on its side should be OK.

When I bought a laptop not so long ago, I selected one of the dwindling
number with 4:3 screens - because of common document formats and because
it's better for coding and word-processing. Unless you are going to be
using it *mostly* for video, then I'd suggest that you do go for 4:3.

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Dave Farrance


Why are so many laptops in Currys/Dixons/Comet etc widescreen? The
dork in Comet told me internet pages are designed for widescreen...

Yes, films fit it better but for everything else it's just the loss of
height, which you need for web pages and documents.

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Old July 21st 06, 11:33 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.comp.hardware,alt.computer
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Owain wrote:

Remember to get the same *height* you need to buy a bigger diagonal
screen size with widescreen compared to ordinary screen.


Indeed. Pythagoras, anyone? ;-)

André Coutanche


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Old July 21st 06, 11:46 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.comp.hardware,alt.computer
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"charles" wrote in message
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In article ,
Bazzer Smith wrote:
I feel like turning my monitor through 90 degrees, can you do this with
some monitors?


Yes, my 20" Dell does this.


Even my HP do this and automatically detect when you rotate the monitor to
adjust the image. If I remember well, this feature is called "pivot".

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Old July 21st 06, 12:39 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.comp.hardware,alt.computer
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Bazzer Smith wrote:
I am probably thinking a big standard shape monitor would be best?
I incidently I have a Freecom DTTV stick so I sometime watch TV
on my PC, but the monitor shape is not really a problem as you watch in
a nicely framed box, you don't get black ugly bars wasteing space as you
do on a proper TV.


If you watch a reasonable amount of TV on it then i'd go for a
widescreen. 17" is usable but doesn't have a huge amount of vertical
space - for a desk a 19 or 20" widesceen is nice and will let you work
two docs side by side (or a document and email say). You can move the
windows bar to the side to maximise the amount of vertical workspace.

It also depends on how much you're going to spend - w/s monitors tend
to cost more and i'd go for a really good 4:3 over a 'budget' w/s

Widescreens on laptops are a terrible idea as theres just not enough
vertical height on a 15" screen (above that and they're not really
portable). I think a 12" 4:3 screen for a laptop you regularly carry
and a 15" for one you carry less often.

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Old July 21st 06, 12:54 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,alt.comp.hardware,alt.computer
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In article ,
Owain wrote:
André Coutanche wrote:
Remember to get the same *height* you need to buy a bigger diagonal
screen size with widescreen compared to ordinary screen.

Indeed. Pythagoras, anyone? ;-)


The squaw on the hippopotamus is equal to the sum of the squaws on the
other two sides?


hides ;-)

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