Freeview and Free Broadband

With the broadband price war breaking out I wonder where that will
leave freeview.

It looks like those of us with broadband will soon be looking towards
the likes of Sky, NTL/Telewest and BT for that service.

I'm currently paying £23.50 to Pipex for broadband, I appreciate that
for a mere £7 extra I could get TV, broadband and phone with NTL but
at the moment and waiting to see how it sorts itself out but how long
I'll stay with Pipex is another matter.

Geoff Lane

"Geoff Lane" wrote in message
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With the broadband price war breaking out I wonder where that will
leave freeview.

It looks like those of us with broadband will soon be looking towards
the likes of Sky, NTL/Telewest and BT for that service.

I'm currently paying £23.50 to Pipex for broadband, I appreciate that
for a mere £7 extra I could get TV, broadband and phone with NTL but
at the moment and waiting to see how it sorts itself out but how long
I'll stay with Pipex is another matter.

You can get broadband for £15, + £10 for a BT line, which is £25. Still less
than £30 for a combined package via cable or Sky. And you don't have to pay
them per month to use a PVR.

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Max Demian

Max Demian wrote:
"Geoff Lane" wrote in message
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With the broadband price war breaking out I wonder where that will
leave freeview.

It looks like those of us with broadband will soon be looking towards
the likes of Sky, NTL/Telewest and BT for that service.

I'm currently paying £23.50 to Pipex for broadband, I appreciate that
for a mere £7 extra I could get TV, broadband and phone with NTL but
at the moment and waiting to see how it sorts itself out but how long
I'll stay with Pipex is another matter.

You can get broadband for £15, + £10 for a BT line, which is £25. Still less
than £30 for a combined package via cable or Sky. And you don't have to pay
them per month to use a PVR.


BT will also be launching their Freeview PVR + VOD broadband box within
the next couple of months called BT vision.

Orange are also looking at some sort of TV service to complement their
Broadband service.

"Geoff Lane" wrote in message
...
With the broadband price war breaking out I wonder where that will
leave freeview.

It looks like those of us with broadband will soon be looking
towards
the likes of Sky, NTL/Telewest and BT for that service.

I'm currently paying £23.50 to Pipex for broadband, I appreciate
that
for a mere £7 extra I could get TV, broadband and phone with NTL but
at the moment and waiting to see how it sorts itself out but how
long
I'll stay with Pipex is another matter.

Geoff Lane



Ah, but what do you get for that from Pipex?

NTL Telewest will charge you £30pm for 1Mb, telephone with a call
connection charge of 5p, and only a basic TV package.

I have to say - despite how I will doubtless get flamed - that NTL
broadband must be one of the best available, at least around here.
Stable, reliable, and fast. I get 4Mb uncapped for £24.99pm which,
with market forces, will either get faster soon at no extra cost, or
will come down in price. Freeview and Freesat give me everything else
I could want.


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Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com

"Geoff Lane" wrote in message
...
With the broadband price war breaking out I wonder where that will
leave freeview.

It looks like those of us with broadband will soon be looking towards
the likes of Sky, NTL/Telewest and BT for that service.

I'm currently paying £23.50 to Pipex for broadband, I appreciate that
for a mere £7 extra I could get TV, broadband and phone with NTL but
at the moment and waiting to see how it sorts itself out but how long
I'll stay with Pipex is another matter.

Same here. The only thing is that it has to be unrestricted broadband.
Listening to the radio at 128 kbps will exceed a 2 GB cap in two days and a
40 GB cap in a month. For steeming video at 512 kbps a 40 GB cap will go in
about a week.


Geoff Lane

harrogate3 wrote:
"Geoff Lane" wrote in message
...
With the broadband price war breaking out I wonder where that will
leave freeview.

It looks like those of us with broadband will soon be looking towards
the likes of Sky, NTL/Telewest and BT for that service.

I'm currently paying £23.50 to Pipex for broadband, I appreciate that
for a mere £7 extra I could get TV, broadband and phone with NTL but
at the moment and waiting to see how it sorts itself out but how long
I'll stay with Pipex is another matter.

Geoff Lane



Ah, but what do you get for that from Pipex?

NTL Telewest will charge you £30pm for 1Mb, telephone with a call
connection charge of 5p, and only a basic TV package.

I have to say - despite how I will doubtless get flamed - that NTL
broadband must be one of the best available, at least around here.
Stable, reliable, and fast. I get 4Mb uncapped for £24.99pm which,
with market forces, will either get faster soon at no extra cost, or
will come down in price. Freeview and Freesat give me everything else
I could want.




Because of a recent bit of enforced belt-tightening, I have had my
NTL\Telewest broadband reduced to the £17.99 per month 2Mb service, and to
be absolutely honest for the overwhelming majority of stuff I haven't
noticed a blind bit of difference.

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harrogate3 wrote:
"Geoff Lane" wrote in message
...
With the broadband price war breaking out I wonder where that will
leave freeview.

It looks like those of us with broadband will soon be looking towards
the likes of Sky, NTL/Telewest and BT for that service.

I'm currently paying £23.50 to Pipex for broadband, I appreciate that
for a mere £7 extra I could get TV, broadband and phone with NTL but
at the moment and waiting to see how it sorts itself out but how long
I'll stay with Pipex is another matter.

Geoff Lane



Ah, but what do you get for that from Pipex?

NTL Telewest will charge you £30pm for 1Mb, telephone with a call
connection charge of 5p, and only a basic TV package.

I have to say - despite how I will doubtless get flamed - that NTL
broadband must be one of the best available, at least around here.
Stable, reliable, and fast. I get 4Mb uncapped for £24.99pm which,
with market forces, will either get faster soon at no extra cost, or
will come down in price. Freeview and Freesat give me everything else
I could want.




Because of a recent bit of enforced belt-tightening, I have had my
NTL\Telewest broadband reduced to the £17.99 per month 2Mb service, and to
be absolutely honest for the overwhelming majority of stuff I haven't
noticed a blind bit of difference.



For various reasons we have ntl 4 meg and ADSL 8 (well 5.4 actually) meg
and really there isn't that much of a performance difference most all of
the time FWIW.....
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Tony Sayer

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I have to say - despite how I will doubtless get flamed - that NTL
broadband must be one of the best available, at least around here.
Stable, reliable, and fast. I get 4Mb uncapped for £24.99pm which,

Yep, that's Token Ring LAN speed of twenty years back.

with market forces, will either get faster soon at no extra cost, or

I believe NTL are planning to upgrade the 4Mbps service to "Cheapernet"
speed by the end of this year (10Mbps) and are actually trialling a 50
or 100Mbps service as I type this.

will come down in price. Freeview and Freesat give me everything else
I could want.

In the run up to the 2 to 4 MBps upgrade, I had the impression that the
1Mbps was also going to be 'doubled up'. Apparently, that (also)
uncapped service is to remain stuck at 1MBps.

If NTL had doubled up the 1Mbps as well, I think I might well have
dropped back to the cheaper (still uncapped) 2Mbps service after a month
or so of sampling the delights of Token Ring speeds. It seems NTL know
me only too well :-(



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harrogate3 wrote:
"Geoff Lane" wrote in message
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With the broadband price war breaking out I wonder where that will
leave freeview.

It looks like those of us with broadband will soon be looking towards
the likes of Sky, NTL/Telewest and BT for that service.

I'm currently paying £23.50 to Pipex for broadband, I appreciate that
for a mere £7 extra I could get TV, broadband and phone with NTL but
at the moment and waiting to see how it sorts itself out but how long
I'll stay with Pipex is another matter.

Geoff Lane



Ah, but what do you get for that from Pipex?

NTL Telewest will charge you £30pm for 1Mb, telephone with a call
connection charge of 5p, and only a basic TV package.

I have to say - despite how I will doubtless get flamed - that NTL
broadband must be one of the best available, at least around here.
Stable, reliable, and fast. I get 4Mb uncapped for £24.99pm which,
with market forces, will either get faster soon at no extra cost, or
will come down in price. Freeview and Freesat give me everything else
I could want.




Because of a recent bit of enforced belt-tightening, I have had my
NTL\Telewest broadband reduced to the £17.99 per month 2Mb service, and to
be absolutely honest for the overwhelming majority of stuff I haven't
noticed a blind bit of difference.


Ivan's statement about the £17.99 service from NTL/TeleWest becoming a
2Mbps service is rather surprising news to me (sorry to be responding
via your posting, Tony, but Ivan is posting from a spam blocked domain
:-). Looking at NTL's own 'publicity' on the upcoming upgrade suggested
the hoped for doubling of the 1Mbps service was not to be.



For various reasons we have ntl 4 meg and ADSL 8 (well 5.4 actually) meg
and really there isn't that much of a performance difference most all of
the time FWIW.....

That 4Mbps of NTL is soon to become 10Mbps (by the end of the year,
apparently) and you _will_ see a significant difference then (but only
from fast sites, like microsoft and grisoft. Asus will undoubtedly
remain at dial up speeds with many others at intermediate speeds).

Ivan's 2Mbps may well go to 4Mbps when that 10Mbps upgrade is finally
rolled out.

Since life is too short to waste on screwing the max out of 'premium
content TV services',[1] I will be quite happy to 'manage' with a mere
4Mbps for my internet downloads (some of which go no faster than 40Kbps
anyway due to the abysmal servers some (surprisingly) major companies
are hosting their customer services on - Asus being a case in point.)

I must have another 'search' for what NTL have on offer by way of BB
speed options. NTL seem to be shy of publicising such changes to their
existing customers (The dropping of the capping limits on their 1 and 2
Mbps services a few months back being a singularly unplubicised
upgrade).

An uncapped 2 (or possibly 4)Mbps service at £17.99 a month seems to be
a reasonably priced service compared to the cheaper "You get what you
pay for" ADSL offerings advertised elsewhwere.

[1] It's quite obvious that the 10Mbps upgrade is driven by the need to
be able to sell 'premium broadband content' services other than via
their existing digital TV service.

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Regards, John.

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Because of a recent bit of enforced belt-tightening, I have had my
NTL\Telewest broadband reduced to the £17.99 per month 2Mb service, and to
be absolutely honest for the overwhelming majority of stuff I haven't
noticed a blind bit of difference.


£17.99 for 2Mb? Are you sure about that? I'm paying the same for 1Mb(I
think). If you are def. getting 2Mb for the same price, I should have a word
with their Customer (dis)Service...

Cheers,

Chris.