DISH Network/DirecTV Merger?

On 19-Jul-2006, "Bob" wrote:

Three years ago there was a series of porch collapses on the
northside, one of which killed 11 people. Since then the city has
enacted a ton of new regulations. The required piers and footings for
a three foot high deck on the back of my house are deeper than the
foundation to the house.

Does this mean that the foundation umder your house does not meet the
standards for a three foot high deck?

"Bob" writes:
"Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote
In alt.dbs.echostar Bob wrote:
finished behind him. I believe it required inspection like
in message all other wiring, but beyond that, it is possible.

Wouldn't work that way today.

Why? Because your builder did it for you or because you know of some
requirement by the local government or state government banning it? I
suspect the former in all honesty.

It is the former, but not because he did it for me. Because he made
a lot of money doing it for me.

He charged $150-200 per cable pull. If I didn't pay him to do it there
wouldn't have been any cabling done pre-drywall. It was $450 to pull three
cables to the same location. Do that for 10-12 locations and it's a tidy
sum.

It's a tidy sum since it's robbery at half that price!

Locally, builders won't allow anyone access to the construction site except
their authorized trades people. I imagine the trades won't allow non-union
people to pull cable either. And I'd bet there are insurance restrictions
too.

Whose property is it?

It's an industry standard/practice.

It may be a "standard" practice, but it's ain't legal.

"Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote in message
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In alt.dbs.directv Bob wrote:


I never said it was an imposition by building code.

I said it was the developer's restriction compounded by the trades not
allowing non-union workers on the job site.


You indictated that it was industry standard and that it wasn't allowed in
Chicago. I dare say you could have told that builder it is no deal unless
you
are doing the coax and you would have been gold. Also, I am confident
that
there are plenty of other builders in Chicagoland that will not put up a
fuss
if you ask them to tell you before the dry wall goes up so that you can
jump
in and install you coax.

It is an industry standard and practice in the City of Chicago.

Ok, find me a developer in Chicago who will allow it.

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On 19-Jul-2006, "Bob" wrote:

Three years ago there was a series of porch collapses on the
northside, one of which killed 11 people. Since then the city has
enacted a ton of new regulations. The required piers and footings for
a three foot high deck on the back of my house are deeper than the
foundation to the house.

Does this mean that the foundation umder your house does not meet the
standards for a three foot high deck?

No, it means after the porch collapses a few years ago, the zoning committee
re-wrote the codes for decks and porches to ridiculous extremes. If you ask
for bids on decks or porches these days, the contractor will tell you right
off the bat that the cost will be about a third higher than it would have
been a few years ago, prior to the porch collapses.

But at least I can rest assured that my deck isn't going anywhere.

In alt.dbs.echostar Bob wrote:

It is an industry standard and practice in the City of Chicago.

Ok, find me a developer in Chicago who will allow it.


You are the one claiming an exceptional case, not me.

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"Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote in message
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In alt.dbs.echostar Bob wrote:

It is an industry standard and practice in the City of Chicago.

Ok, find me a developer in Chicago who will allow it.


You are the one claiming an exceptional case, not me.

It might be exceptional in Minnesota. It's not in Chicago.

Quoting you here, cut and pasted:

"Also, I am confident that
there are plenty of other builders in Chicagoland that will not put up a
fuss
if you ask them to tell you before the dry wall goes up so that you can jump
in and install you coax."

If you are so confident, find me one.

And yes, you are right. I could have told the builder there was no deal
unless I did the coax. And he would have said, fine, and sold the house to
someone else. With the same contract. Just like he has for the hundreds of
other houses he has built in the city.

On 19-Jul-2006, "Mike T." wrote:

Come on over to my place and bring your Dish Network Receiver with
you.
I'll show you how to properly adjust contrast and brightness (among
other settings). You will see -with your own eyes- that my monitor is
perfectly calibrated.

(But my monitor only has one memory setting, so the ONE group of
settings is used for every source.)

I'm surprised that you are content with such an inadequate monitor--only
ONE group of memory settings.

On 19-Jul-2006, "Bob" wrote:

On 19-Jul-2006, "Bob" wrote:

Three years ago there was a series of porch collapses on the
northside, one of which killed 11 people. Since then the city has
enacted a ton of new regulations. The required piers and footings
for a three foot high deck on the back of my house are deeper than
the foundation to the house.

Does this mean that the foundation umder your house does not meet
the standards for a three foot high deck?

No, it means after the porch collapses a few years ago, the zoning
committee re-wrote the codes for decks and porches to ridiculous
extremes. If you ask for bids on decks or porches these days, the
contractor will tell you right off the bat that the cost will be about
a third higher than it would have been a few years ago, prior to the
porch collapses.

But at least I can rest assured that my deck isn't going anywhere.

But how about your house?

You indicated that it has a poorer foundation than your deck.

But at least I can rest assured that my deck isn't going anywhere.

But how about your house?

You indicated that it has a poorer foundation than your deck.


Never mind, forget it.

Involuntary wrote:

I'm sure if the buyout goes through, the NAB will step in and say, "This is
ridiculous! The American people have been inconvenienced enough with all
the hardware changes in the past. EchoTV should be forbidden from
requiring any new hardware or any reaiming of home satellite antennas. We
have got to draw the line somewhere!"

And they'll come up with other ways to eat up all the satellite space, like
some requirement that forces the new larger company to carry all the cable
company's public access channels in the country. So the most significant
result of a buyout would be that we'd have just enough additional bandwidth
to add HBO Zone.

Or post a bunch of Usenet messages three times each.