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July 18th 06, 04:04 PM
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Virgin Radio on Freeview and Web
I read that this had been launched recently over at Digital Spy, but that
the quality was as crap as the other EMAP stations. If you are using the web feed, which one is the best quality Virgin Radio ============= Windows Media Player (20k) Windows Media Player (96k) Real One broadband (128k) Real 10 AAC broadband (128k) iTunes broadband(128k) AAC+ (32k, FM quality) MP3 broadband(128k) Ogg Vorbis broadband(~160k) Quicktime broadband (64k) Peter 
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July 18th 06, 04:29 PM
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"Stone Free" spam_KillKillKillstone_freeNoSpamPleaseWereBritis wrote in message . 1... I read that this had been launched recently over at Digital Spy, but that the quality was as crap as the other EMAP stations. If you are using the web feed, which one is the best quality Virgin Radio ============= Windows Media Player (20k) Windows Media Player (96k) Real One broadband (128k) Real 10 AAC broadband (128k) iTunes broadband(128k) AAC+ (32k, FM quality) MP3 broadband(128k) Ogg Vorbis broadband(~160k) Quicktime broadband (64k) OGG at 64kbps will outperform anything else at 128kbps and will give you FM quality at about 40kbps (using a 32 kHz sample rate). Peter
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July 18th 06, 04:52 PM
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"Agamemnon" wrote in
: "Stone Free" spam_KillKillKillstone_freeNoSpamPleaseWereBritis wrote in message . 1... If you are using the web feed, which one is the best quality Virgin Radio ============= Windows Media Player (20k) Windows Media Player (96k) Real One broadband (128k) Real 10 AAC broadband (128k) iTunes broadband(128k) AAC+ (32k, FM quality) MP3 broadband(128k) Ogg Vorbis broadband(~160k) Quicktime broadband (64k) OGG at 64kbps will outperform anything else at 128kbps and will give you FM quality at about 40kbps (using a 32 kHz sample rate). Peter Well they have given an extra 96kbps. The broadband package I am on at home is capped, and using the 128kbps streams from Last.FM (which is acceptable quality whilst not great) still ends up using quite a lot of my quota. Do any of the sub 128k streams provide better quality than I am currently used to from Last.FM? Peter
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July 18th 06, 05:48 PM
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Virgin Radio on Freeview and Web
"Stone Free" spam_KillKillKillstone_freeNoSpamPleaseWereBritis wrote in message . 1... "Agamemnon" wrote in : "Stone Free" spam_KillKillKillstone_freeNoSpamPleaseWereBritis wrote in message . 1... If you are using the web feed, which one is the best quality Virgin Radio ============= Windows Media Player (20k) Windows Media Player (96k) Real One broadband (128k) Real 10 AAC broadband (128k) iTunes broadband(128k) AAC+ (32k, FM quality) MP3 broadband(128k) Ogg Vorbis broadband(~160k) Quicktime broadband (64k) OGG at 64kbps will outperform anything else at 128kbps and will give you FM quality at about 40kbps (using a 32 kHz sample rate). Peter Well they have given an extra 96kbps. The broadband package I am on at home is capped, and using the 128kbps streams from Last.FM (which is acceptable quality whilst not great) still ends up using quite a lot of my quota. Do any of the sub 128k streams provide better quality than I am currently used to from Last.FM? AAC+ at 32k is stereo medium wave. AAC at 128k is better than MP3 at 128k. I don't know what Quciktime is using so can't say. OGG vorbis at 64k beats everything else hand's down though just as long as the input isn't clipped. OGG turns nasty with clipping whereas MP3 softens it. MP3 at 128k will beat everything except OGG and AAC+ encoded at bitrates between 64k and 128k. Peter
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July 18th 06, 06:00 PM
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Virgin Radio on Freeview and Web
"Agamemnon" wrote in
: I don't know what Quciktime is using so can't say. OGG vorbis at 64k beats everything else hand's down though just as long as the input isn't clipped. OGG turns nasty with clipping whereas MP3 softens it. MP3 at 128k will beat everything except OGG and AAC+ encoded at bitrates between 64k and 128k. So I might as well chose AAC+ as this will take up the same bandwidth but should produce better sound!
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July 18th 06, 07:01 PM
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Virgin Radio on Freeview and Web
Stone Free wrote:
I read that this had been launched recently over at Digital Spy, but that the quality was as crap as the other EMAP stations. It's using 128 kbps, so that's why it sounds so crap, and I've just listened to it, and it does indeed sound terrible. If you are using the web feed, which one is the best quality Virgin Radio ============= Windows Media Player (20k) Windows Media Player (96k) Real One broadband (128k) Real 10 AAC broadband (128k) iTunes broadband(128k) AAC+ (32k, FM quality) MP3 broadband(128k) Ogg Vorbis broadband(~160k) Quicktime broadband (64k) I listened to all of them some time ago, and the Ogg Vorbis stream at 160 kbps sounded by far the best. -- Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info Find the cheapest Freeview & DAB prices: http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/fr..._receivers.php http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/dab/dab_radios.php
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July 18th 06, 07:02 PM
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Agamemnon wrote:
"Stone Free" spam_KillKillKillstone_freeNoSpamPleaseWereBritis wrote in message . 1... I read that this had been launched recently over at Digital Spy, but that the quality was as crap as the other EMAP stations. If you are using the web feed, which one is the best quality Virgin Radio ============= Windows Media Player (20k) Windows Media Player (96k) Real One broadband (128k) Real 10 AAC broadband (128k) iTunes broadband(128k) AAC+ (32k, FM quality) MP3 broadband(128k) Ogg Vorbis broadband(~160k) Quicktime broadband (64k) OGG at 64kbps will outperform anything else at 128kbps and will give you FM quality at about 40kbps (using a 32 kHz sample rate). You're an absolute nutcase. -- Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info Find the cheapest Freeview & DAB prices: http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/fr..._receivers.php http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/dab/dab_radios.php
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July 18th 06, 07:06 PM
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Virgin Radio on Freeview and Web
Agamemnon wrote:
"Stone Free" spam_KillKillKillstone_freeNoSpamPleaseWereBritis wrote in message . 1... "Agamemnon" wrote in : "Stone Free" spam_KillKillKillstone_freeNoSpamPleaseWereBritis wrote in message . 1... If you are using the web feed, which one is the best quality Virgin Radio ============= Windows Media Player (20k) Windows Media Player (96k) Real One broadband (128k) Real 10 AAC broadband (128k) iTunes broadband(128k) AAC+ (32k, FM quality) MP3 broadband(128k) Ogg Vorbis broadband(~160k) Quicktime broadband (64k) OGG at 64kbps will outperform anything else at 128kbps and will give you FM quality at about 40kbps (using a 32 kHz sample rate). Peter Well they have given an extra 96kbps. The broadband package I am on at home is capped, and using the 128kbps streams from Last.FM (which is acceptable quality whilst not great) still ends up using quite a lot of my quota. Do any of the sub 128k streams provide better quality than I am currently used to from Last.FM? AAC+ at 32k is stereo medium wave. AAC at 128k is better than MP3 at 128k. I don't know what Quciktime is using so can't say. OGG vorbis at 64k beats everything else hand's down though just as long as the input isn't clipped. Utter nonsense. OGG turns nasty with clipping whereas MP3 softens it. MP3 at 128k will beat everything except OGG and AAC+ encoded at bitrates between 64k and 128k. You've just contradicted what you said he "AAC at 128k is better than MP3 at 128k." -- Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info Find the cheapest Freeview & DAB prices: http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/fr..._receivers.php http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/dab/dab_radios.php
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July 18th 06, 09:45 PM
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"DAB sounds worse than FM" wrote in message ... Agamemnon wrote: "Stone Free" spam_KillKillKillstone_freeNoSpamPleaseWereBritis wrote in message . 1... "Agamemnon" wrote in : "Stone Free" spam_KillKillKillstone_freeNoSpamPleaseWereBritis wrote in message . 1... If you are using the web feed, which one is the best quality Virgin Radio ============= Windows Media Player (20k) Windows Media Player (96k) Real One broadband (128k) Real 10 AAC broadband (128k) iTunes broadband(128k) AAC+ (32k, FM quality) MP3 broadband(128k) Ogg Vorbis broadband(~160k) Quicktime broadband (64k) OGG at 64kbps will outperform anything else at 128kbps and will give you FM quality at about 40kbps (using a 32 kHz sample rate). Peter Well they have given an extra 96kbps. The broadband package I am on at home is capped, and using the 128kbps streams from Last.FM (which is acceptable quality whilst not great) still ends up using quite a lot of my quota. Do any of the sub 128k streams provide better quality than I am currently used to from Last.FM? AAC+ at 32k is stereo medium wave. AAC at 128k is better than MP3 at 128k. I don't know what Quciktime is using so can't say. OGG vorbis at 64k beats everything else hand's down though just as long as the input isn't clipped. Utter nonsense. FACT. OGG turns nasty with clipping whereas MP3 softens it. MP3 at 128k will beat everything except OGG and AAC+ encoded at bitrates between 64k and 128k. You've just contradicted what you said he "AAC at 128k is better than MP3 at 128k." Add AAC to AAC+ and OGG.
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July 18th 06, 09:45 PM
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"DAB sounds worse than FM" wrote in message ... Agamemnon wrote: "Stone Free" spam_KillKillKillstone_freeNoSpamPleaseWereBritis wrote in message . 1... I read that this had been launched recently over at Digital Spy, but that the quality was as crap as the other EMAP stations. If you are using the web feed, which one is the best quality Virgin Radio ============= Windows Media Player (20k) Windows Media Player (96k) Real One broadband (128k) Real 10 AAC broadband (128k) iTunes broadband(128k) AAC+ (32k, FM quality) MP3 broadband(128k) Ogg Vorbis broadband(~160k) Quicktime broadband (64k) OGG at 64kbps will outperform anything else at 128kbps and will give you FM quality at about 40kbps (using a 32 kHz sample rate). You're an absolute nutcase. You are talking out of your arse. I have done the tests.
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