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BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?



 
 
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Old July 16th 06, 08:19 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky,uk.media.tv.sky
Heracles Pollux
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"me2" wrote in message
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I seem to remember that when digital satellite was introduced the BBC
put DOGS on BBC 1 and BBC 2. There was then a mass of complaints to
the BBC Show "Points of View" (hosted by Anne Robinson at the time)
asking for the DOGs to be removed and after a couple of weeks or so the
BBC bowed to public pressure and did this and a statement was made on
Points Of View saying that DOGs would not be re-introduced on BBC1 and
BBC2.

David


....DOGS???


DOGs = Our channel is not unique, competes with commercial satellite
channels, does not carry distinct content, and our customers are forced to
pay for us by bundle.





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Old July 16th 06, 10:39 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky,uk.media.tv.sky
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"Heracles Pollux" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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Can anyone confirm whether my recollection of events around the time of
the introduction of digital satellite is correct:

I seem to remember that when digital satellite was introduced the BBC
put DOGS on BBC 1 and BBC 2. There was then a mass of complaints to
the BBC Show "Points of View" (hosted by Anne Robinson at the time)
asking for the DOGs to be removed and after a couple of weeks or so the
BBC bowed to public pressure and did this and a statement was made on
Points Of View saying that DOGs would not be re-introduced on BBC1 and
BBC2.

1. Did I dream this or does anyone else remember this happening?
2. Did anyone record the POV show where this promised was made?

The reason I ask is that:
- This shows that consumers don't like DOGs (as they BBC seems to
deny this)
- The BBC do seem to be going back on their promise as there are now
sometimes DOGS on BBC 2 (for example 'BBC 4 on BBC 2)
- This shows the effectiveness of mass complaints

Cheers,


David




Firstly I will not pay the TV Licence whilst the BBC uses DOGs nor watch
DOG disfigured services.


You plan to get around that how?


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Old July 16th 06, 10:55 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky,uk.media.tv.sky
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Default BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?

In message , Heracles Pollux
writes
DOGs = Our channel is not unique, competes with commercial satellite
channels, does not carry distinct content, and our customers are forced
to pay for us by bundle.


On a similar theme, is it possible to 'turn off' the lady doing the sign
language? She totally ruined a film on C4 I videoed in the early hours
last week. :-(

Bob
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Old July 16th 06, 11:18 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky,uk.media.tv.sky
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Default BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?

In article ,
Bob Adams wrote:
In message , Heracles Pollux
writes
DOGs = Our channel is not unique, competes with commercial satellite
channels, does not carry distinct content, and our customers are forced
to pay for us by bundle.


On a similar theme, is it possible to 'turn off' the lady doing the sign
language? She totally ruined a film on C4 I videoed in the early hours
last week. :-(


I think these are all repeats. Just record the one that isn't repeated with
the signing - or use it to learn signing! ;-)

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Old July 16th 06, 11:18 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky,uk.media.tv.sky
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"Bob Adams" wrote in message
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In message , Heracles Pollux
writes
DOGs = Our channel is not unique, competes with commercial satellite
channels, does not carry distinct content, and our customers are forced
to pay for us by bundle.


On a similar theme, is it possible to 'turn off' the lady doing the sign
language? She totally ruined a film on C4 I videoed in the early hours
last week. :-(




it's PC gone mad - imagine if you couldnt turn off the subtitles....



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Old July 16th 06, 11:19 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky,uk.media.tv.sky
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Default BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?

Bob Adams wrote:
In message , Heracles Pollux
writes
DOGs = Our channel is not unique, competes with commercial satellite
channels, does not carry distinct content, and our customers are
forced to pay for us by bundle.


On a similar theme, is it possible to 'turn off' the lady doing the
sign language? She totally ruined a film on C4 I videoed in the early
hours last week. :-(

Bob


No, that's part of the broadcast signal and would be there even if you had
received it via terrestial analog. Usually such films are broadcast at
antisocial hours (like the one you recorded) and generally they are repeats
of something broadcast 'normally' earlier.

The broadcast companies are required by law to have a certain percentage of
programmes signed in this way.

Just consider yourself lucky that you don't need such services and make sure
you select the version without signing in future!


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Old July 17th 06, 07:16 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky,uk.media.tv.sky
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Default BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?

On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 23:04:44 +0100, Owain
wrote:

the dog from that film you saw wrote:
On a similar theme, is it possible to 'turn off' the lady doing the sign
language? She totally ruined a film on C4 I videoed in the early hours
last week. :-(


Not yet.

it's PC gone mad - imagine if you couldnt turn off the subtitles....


If you watch Gaelic television, you can't - it's all shown with
(English) in-vision subtitles

And often done in such a way (smaller characters than normally used
for subtitles and no background to them) that my mother and anyone
else with similar poor eyesight can't read them anyway. It probably
won't last much longer anyway as STV seem to be hellbent on abandoning
local material apart from news and adverts and just acting as a
repeater station for ITV1.
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Old July 17th 06, 09:35 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky,uk.media.tv.sky
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Default BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?

In article ,
the dog from that film you saw
wrote:

I recall the newspaper story from a few years back where the BBC couldnt
find enough gaelic speaking actors.


While working on the BBC stand at the Royal Highland Show and sitting in
the "rest caravan" a young lady from BBC Radio Nan Gaedheal used our phone
to send a report back to Inverness. A few minutes of apparently fluent
Gaelic was followed by a curse and "I've forgotten the word for 'Reserve
Price'." She got a prompt down the phone and started again.

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Old July 17th 06, 10:47 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.tech.tv.sky,uk.media.tv.sky
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"Andrew" wrote in message
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Bob Adams wrote:
In message , Heracles Pollux
writes
DOGs = Our channel is not unique, competes with commercial
satellite
channels, does not carry distinct content, and our customers are
forced to pay for us by bundle.


On a similar theme, is it possible to 'turn off' the lady doing the
sign language? She totally ruined a film on C4 I videoed in the
early
hours last week. :-(

Bob


No, that's part of the broadcast signal and would be there even if
you had received it via terrestial analog. Usually such films are
broadcast at antisocial hours (like the one you recorded) and
generally they are repeats of something broadcast 'normally'
earlier.

snip


That may be correct in theory. However, I have noticed several weeks
ago that the repeat of Home & Away on Channel 5 at 12 noon, Monday to
Friday, included sign language on Sky Digital (105) - but no sign
language on Terrestrial TV. I don't know whether that was a
"one-off".


 




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